Vaccines don't cause autism (duh)

[WhiteTiger]

[rubecube]

And here comes another round of stupid...

http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/201...cines.html?m=1

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by rubecube

And here comes another round of stupid...

http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/201...cines.html?m=1

####, the sad thing is people will start to use this site as ammunition....... to qoute me wife "#### I hate people."

[AcGold]

Originally Posted by Minnie

Holy hysterical hyperbolic twaddle. This is such a cop out, and all it means is you don't have a leg to stand on, nor anything to back yourself up on, so you're going to go sit in the garden and eat worms and dither on and on about all the mean internet people.

That, essentially, is your position. Because you certainly don't have one in this thread - maybe in your bedroom, but most definitely not in this thread.

Nice, even if I have no leg to stand on I never once resorted to condescension and utter rhetorical nonsense like this. You feel better about yourself being so self-righteous?

I say I don't want to post sources because I'll be ganged up on and insulted while people tell me that's stupid while insulting me and ganging up. I might be a delusional wingnut but at least I don't have to resort to childish assinine insults to make myself feel better.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by AcGold

Nice, even if I have no leg to stand on I never once resorted to condescension and utter rhetorical nonsense like this. You feel better about yourself being so self-righteous?

I say I don't want to post sources because I'll be ganged up on and insulted while people tell me that's stupid while insulting me and ganging up. I might be a delusional wingnut but at least I don't have to resort to childish assinine insults to make myself feel better.

AcGold, Please, pretty please, can you post links to articles you have read.

[Hanni]

Originally Posted by rubecube

And here comes another round of stupid...

http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/201...cines.html?m=1

Obviously you can work through the whole article picking it apart but just a couple quick and easy points that jump out right off the bat.

“Adverse events reported during post-approval use of Tripedia vaccine include idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, SIDS, anaphylactic reaction, cellulitis, autism, convulsion/grand mal convulsion, encephalopathy, hypotonia, neuropathy, somnolence and apnea. Events were included in this list because of the seriousness or frequency of reporting.“ [emphasis added]

They conveniently leave out the emphasis on this part of the insert:

Because these events are reported voluntarily from a population of an uncertain size, it is not always possible to reliably estimate their frequencies or establish a causal relationship to components of Tripedia vaccine.

So what they fail to tell you in their anti-vax propaganda is that the pharmaceutical company is saying we have to include this because people make enough of these claims, but there is no scientific evidence that an actual link exists between any of these events and this vaccine.

Lots of already thoroughly debunked claims about mercury, incidence of Autism, natural immunity and a very poor (more likely purposeful) misrepresentation/ignorance of herd immunity.

On top of all of that every link points to realfarmacy or Natural News, with no actual science to try and prove any of it.

[dsavillian]

was anyone else hoping that Hockeymummabear3 was going to be the spiritual successor to springs1?

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by AcGold

Nice, even if I have no leg to stand on I never once resorted to condescension and utter rhetorical nonsense like this. You feel better about yourself being so self-righteous?

I say I don't want to post sources because I'll be ganged up on and insulted while people tell me that's stupid while insulting me and ganging up. I might be a delusional wingnut but at least I don't have to resort to childish assinine insults to make myself feel better.

Choose your own adventure post. Do you
a) post sources and risk being insulted for your sources, or;
b) refuse to post sources because of that fear and get insulted for not listing them and get called out for not having a leg to stand on?

b) is already happening. You should either do a) or shut up and accept the situation you've put yourself in.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Choose your own adventure post. Do you
a) post sources and risk being insulted for your sources, or;
b) refuse to post sources because of that fear and get insulted for not listing them and get called out for not having a leg to stand on?

b) is already happening. You should either do a) or shut up and accept the situation you've put yourself in.

I loved those books growing up.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Boo Radley

What do you mean by "science" people?

I read it as: people who are not idiots, but your mileage may vary.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Hanni

So what they fail to tell you in their anti-vax propaganda is that the pharmaceutical company is saying we have to include this because people make enough of these claims, but there is no scientific evidence that an actual link exists between any of these events and this vaccine.

New CP Jihad - find a way to make a pharmaceutical company report that a possible side effect of a specific drug is 'sexual attraction to balloon animals'.

[undercoverbrother]

This just showed up in my email from my kdis schools:

Please see the information below from Alberta Education and feel free to share with any parents who may not receive the monthly newsletter emails.

April 16, 2014
IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT MEASLES TO ALBERTA SCHOOL
ADMINISTRATORS, STAFF AND PARENTS/GUARDIANS
Since the beginning of 2014, there has been a significantly higher than usual number of cases
of measles in Canada. Cases have been reported in five Canadian provinces: British Columbia,
Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Ontario. To date, 14 confirmed cases of measles have
been identified in Alberta in 2014, and more recently hundreds of susceptible persons were
exposed to a few cases of measles in the school setting.
Measles - an extremely contagious and potentially severe illness - is of greatest risk to children
and young adults who have not received two doses of a measles-containing vaccine. In addition
to fever, ear infections, rash and pneumonia, some rare complications can also occur, such as
encephalitis (brain swelling), seizures, and death. The best way to protect children and adults
from measles is to make sure that one’s measles immunization is up to date. In Alberta,
measles-containing vaccine is offered free of charge through Alberta’s publicly funded
immunization program at local public health clinics. Children should receive their first dose of
measles-containing vaccine at 12 months of age, and their second dose between the ages of
four and six years.
Measles can spread rapidly within a school. Should measles be identified in a school
population, Alberta Health Services (AHS) public health staff immediately initiates efforts to
identify at-risk students and staff. AHS public health will review the immunization records for
exposed students and staff and look for documentation of immunity, including having received
two doses of a measles-containing vaccine at the appropriate ages and intervals. Persons who
do not have documentation of immunity should get immunized. This is the best way to prevent
being infected by measles and to reduce the risk of spread of measles if an exposure in the
school does occur.
Also in order to reduce the risk of measles in schools and protect those at highest risk of
disease and complications, susceptible individuals in contact with an infectious case will be
excluded from a school. This includes students, teachers, and volunteers.
A susceptible individual is defined as being born in 1970 or later and meeting the following
criteria:
· lack of documented evidence of immunization with two doses of a measles-containing
vaccine given at appropriate intervals, on or after the first birthday; AND
· lack of serological proof of immunity; AND
· lack of laboratory evidence of prior measles infection.

Of note, individuals born before 1970 are generally considered immune due to measles disease
that was circulating broadly at that time
We highly advise that susceptible students and staff who were not born before 1970 contact
their local public health office or Health Link Alberta (1-866-408-5465) to discuss immunization
opportunities.
Susceptible individuals will be excluded from school and all other school activities outside the
home. The period of exclusion will extend from five days after the first exposure through to 21
days after the last exposure.
These excluded individuals may also be at risk for developing measles and are advised to
monitor themselves for symptoms. If symptoms of measles do develop, these individuals are
advised to avoid contact with other people, stay home and call Health Link Alberta (1-866-408-
5465) or their family physician for further instructions, as being out in public or in public buildings
put other people at risk of being infected. It is very important to call ahead to your healthcare
provider or facility before visiting so that precautions can be put in place to prevent possible
spread of the disease to others.
If a susceptible person develops the symptoms below, this person should stay home from
school.
· Fever of 38.3◦C or higher; and
· Cough or runny nose or red eyes; and
· Red blotchy rash
Albertans uncertain of their immunization history, or their child’s immunization history, can call
their local public health office or Health Link Alberta (1-866-408-5465) to discuss. For students
and staff who were immunized outside of Alberta, it is highly recommended that they obtain a
copy of their immunization record and have it readily available – and translated into English, if in
a different language. Doing so before an exposure occurs will reduce the impact of this
exposure, expedite the process and ensure a swift response.
Please visit Alberta Health Services for more information on measles (link below), such as
answers to common questions regarding measles and measles Active Health Advisories.
www.albertahealthservices.ca/9842.asp
Thank you for your attention to this very significant health issue and please share this
information with your administrators, school staff and parents/guardians.
Yours sincerely,
James Talbot, MD, PhD, FRCPC
Chief Medical Officer of Health

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by AcGold

Nice, even if I have no leg to stand on I never once resorted to condescension and utter rhetorical nonsense like this. You feel better about yourself being so self-righteous?

I say I don't want to post sources because I'll be ganged up on and insulted while people tell me that's stupid while insulting me and ganging up. I might be a delusional wingnut but at least I don't have to resort to childish assinine insults to make myself feel better.

Surely you're not such a delicate flower...

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by AcGold

Nice, even if I have no leg to stand on I never once resorted to condescension and utter rhetorical nonsense like this. You feel better about yourself being so self-righteous?

I say I don't want to post sources because I'll be ganged up on and insulted while people tell me that's stupid while insulting me and ganging up. I might be a delusional wingnut but at least I don't have to resort to childish assinine insults to make myself feel better.

True, but the names will never hurt you. Instead, what you are proposing is dangerous to all of us. We have apparently had enough of this nonsense.

[Iggy Snipe]

If you do not have your children vaccinated, they should not be allowed to attend public/catholic schools. That law will probably be implemented anyways in the very near future.

If it were not for vaccines, many children and adults would be very sick, a lot more often, and die from diseases that can be prevented.

[ernie]

Originally Posted by Iggy Snipe

If you do not have your children vaccinated, they should not be allowed to attend public/catholic schools. That law will probably be implemented anyways in the very near future.

It is in these parts of Missouri. Well maybe not law but it is how the school districts are run. No vaccination records received by the end of the first week of school the kids can not return until they have been received. Same thing with any reputable day care around here (and even the the ones that aren't).

You also can't get a greencard without those vaccination records. I know as during my application process my childhood records could not be found (destroyed in flood when younger or lost from moves) and I got to get ALL of them again on top of a TB shot. That was a fun couple of days.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Iggy Snipe

If you do not have your children vaccinated, they should not be allowed to attend public/catholic schools. That law will probably be implemented anyways in the very near future.

If it were not for vaccines, many children and adults would be very sick, a lot more often, and die from diseases that can be prevented.

I wonder how many parents of unvaccinated children would willingly send there kids to a school where all the other kids were unvaccinated, and how many just take it for granted that most of the other kids in the schools they are in now are vaccinated and just assume that they will blend into the herd.

[Regulator75]

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/heal...256368771.html
Warning, short news clip will auto play.

Autistic stem cells are starting respond to experimental drugs in what San Diego researchers are calling a breakthrough in the disorder affecting one in 68 children.

[corporatejay]

Stephen Colbert ‏@StephenAtHome 11h Who needs vaccines? Many American heroes were never vaccinated. Off the top of my head: FDR. Wait… bad example.

[corporatejay]

Okay guys, enough is enough, this is getting ridiculous.

Case of tuberculosis confirmed at Lethbridge College



There has been a confirmed case of tuberculosis at Lethbridge College.
The college sent out an informative email Monday to its staff, which according to the college’s communications specialist, Gwen Wirth, was not sent to create any alarm. She added the case is not considered a risk to the general college community or public.


http://lethbridgeherald.com/news/loc...ridge-college/