03-04-2024, 02:45 PM
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#721
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Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
How long did it take to find a capable goalie after Kipper?
They shouldn't trade Marky in a spur of the moment decision. You're not only sewering a team fighting for playoffs now, but for the foreseeable future.
Not a decision to be made lightly.
Down the road the Flames might be in the Devils position. Although if I were them I would just pony up. And would've done so three weeks ago. Fitz let a season and playoff run with his core intact go down the drain for poor reasons.
There is no world where Fitz can bring in the right goalie while keeping all his good young players Devils.
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By the time this team is good again he will be on another team or retired most likely.
He is just going to waste 2 years here, and most likely cost us a good draft pick if he keeps his play.
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03-04-2024, 02:50 PM
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#722
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Originally Posted by transplant99
So your entire argument on trading any player has nothing to do with the effects on the rest of the team but only if the team is making the playoffs in that particular year??
I guess Bedard should be available then!! (This is response to the asinine parade comment)
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This is pro sports, it's about winning. Should we start a thread about the teams with the greatest chemistry who missed the playoffs? Nobody wants to talk about that.
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03-04-2024, 02:52 PM
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#723
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Originally Posted by butterfly
This is pro sports, it's about winning. Should we start a thread about the teams with the greatest chemistry who missed the playoffs? Nobody wants to talk about that.
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Yet you’re suggesting that the players who want to win shouldn’t be bothered by the team trading the guy who still gives them a chance.
Weird.
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03-04-2024, 02:55 PM
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#724
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly
This is pro sports, it's about winning. Should we start a thread about the teams with the greatest chemistry who missed the playoffs? Nobody wants to talk about that.
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Yes it is.
And being thats the case, Markstrom gives the Flames a WAY better chance at doing so while he is on the team.....right?
You think things are black and white/cut and dry....they arent.
GM's have so much more to consider and account for than you seem to understand and/or admit, that doesn't mean those things dont exist.
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03-04-2024, 02:55 PM
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#725
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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See I do think Conroy was maybe playing a bit of chicken here.
NJD seem to have a lot more pressure to get a goalie and try to make a playoff push, than the Flames do to move Markstrom.
Think he was maybe thinking that if the pressure built from their owner that New Jersey could maybe cave.
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03-04-2024, 02:57 PM
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#726
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: nexus of the universe
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Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly
Well don't leave the poor soul in Red Deer. Trade him in a dignified manner.
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I love that story.
Team practice in Red Deer on way from Edmonton to Calgary. And Conroy informed he’s been traded to here.
“You traded me to Red Deer?”
Also love that game he re-debuted. 2 goals.
Funny enough, if he never returns, he’s probably not GM here right now.
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03-04-2024, 02:59 PM
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#727
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Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
By the time this team is good again he will be on another team or retired most likely.
He is just going to waste 2 years here, and most likely cost us a good draft pick if he keeps his play.
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The point of the post was that they should give the trade a lot of consideration and make sure it's the right return to justify gutting the team short and medium term.
Not just rush him out the door even if it's just a pile of B level assets coming back that don't add anything to their vision for the team.
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03-04-2024, 03:17 PM
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#728
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly
This is pro sports, it's about winning. Should we start a thread about the teams with the greatest chemistry who missed the playoffs? Nobody wants to talk about that.
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Start a thread about all those teams with bad chemistry that won nonetheless.
None of the tank teams in NHL history dug themselves out by maintaining a culture of losing. Especially when their ultimate hopes were pinned on a goalie who hasn't played 10 games in the NHL.
Until Wolf grabs the reins there's a need for decent goaltending. Flames aren't going to be successful if they just get blown out every night.
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03-04-2024, 03:25 PM
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#730
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feels like ground hog day. Every hour that story is being brought up and then shot down.
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03-04-2024, 03:27 PM
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#731
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Originally Posted by Hackey
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What does Seravalli know? He is an east coast guy playing messenger for an east coast team.
Being upset by that rumour is carrying water for the Devils.
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03-04-2024, 03:28 PM
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#732
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Probably the best scenario for the Flames.
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03-04-2024, 03:28 PM
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Sure don't like what I heard from Friedman about the Flames on 32 thoughts today.
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Originally Posted by JobHopper
The thing is, my posts, thoughts and insights may be my opinions but they're also quite factual.
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03-04-2024, 03:31 PM
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#734
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by saillias
Sure don't like what I heard from Friedman about the Flames on 32 thoughts today.
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go on...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HotHotHeat
THIS is why people make fun of Edmonton. When will this stupid city figure it out? They continue to kick their own ass every day, it's impossible not to make fun of them.
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03-04-2024, 03:31 PM
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#735
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Originally Posted by Hackey
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Is that a Ser3 or a Ser4 
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03-04-2024, 03:38 PM
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#736
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Ruff fired lol
Murray Edwards you diabolical!
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03-04-2024, 03:42 PM
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#737
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Originally Posted by Sutter_in_law
go on...
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Basically said the Flames changed their mind on Markstrom and tried to sign Tanev to make the playoffs
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03-04-2024, 03:45 PM
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#738
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Ruff fired lol
Murray Edwards you diabolical!
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Didn't they just extended him? 
Fitz should be the one who is fired!
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03-04-2024, 03:52 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Start a thread about all those teams with bad chemistry that won nonetheless.
None of the tank teams in NHL history dug themselves out by maintaining a culture of losing. Especially when their ultimate hopes were pinned on a goalie who hasn't played 10 games in the NHL.
Until Wolf grabs the reins there's a need for decent goaltending. Flames aren't going to be successful if they just get blown out every night.
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Because winning creates chemistry, not the other way around. If you grab your 20 best friends and create an NHL team, you're going to have wonderful chemistry and a bad team. All those scoundrels in the Oilers locker room are having a grand old time right now because they're winning, not because they're nice folks.
What's the need to have decent goaltending? Just go get Mrazek or someone. Chicago isn't getting blown out every night. There are no reins to grab if you aren't even on the team. Maybe Wolf needs to prove himself in the AHL, I guess. It would be too risky to not have Markstrom around leading us to 17th place in the NHL.
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03-04-2024, 03:56 PM
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#740
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly
Because winning creates chemistry, not the other way around. If you grab your 20 best friends and create an NHL team, you're going to have wonderful chemistry and a bad team. All those scoundrels in the Oilers locker room are having a grand old time right now because they're winning, not because they're nice folks.
What's the need to have decent goaltending? Just go get Mrazek or someone. Chicago isn't getting blown out every night. There are no reins to grab if you aren't even on the team. Maybe Wolf needs to prove himself in the AHL, I guess. It would be too risky to not have Markstrom around leading us to 17th place in the NHL.
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While some of your points aren't way off... Wolf has literally nothing left to prove in the AHL.
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