You Know What Really Grinds My Gears? Now with 3x more gears...

[undercoverbrother]

yay

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Then those people are idiots. [shrug]

Even when I first moved out here and made SFA for income, I still had tenant's insurance.

I agree they are idiots.

Doesn't help buddy that has been injured.

Renters insurance is crazy cheap, or it was when I was a renter 1000 years ago.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Cappy

If you have home insurance.

Or renters. The vast majority of people will be covered in some way. Sure, if a homeless person runs you over you might be left high and dry, but in general, not an issue.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Or renters. The vast majority of people will be covered in some way. Sure, if a homeless person runs you over you might be left high and dry, but in general, not an issue.

again, I think you are wrong.

There aren't as many people buying renters insurance as some think

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

Do you see people playing in beer league hockey, and because they have a jersey on, do you assume they are training to be in the NHL? Many cyclists, myself included, wear spandex while cycling because it's clothing designed for cycling. The bib shorts have padding in them so your butt doesn't hurt. Contrary to popular belief, the padding in your shorts, not the padding on your saddle, is what makes the ride comfortable. A spandex bike jersey has pockets in the back for my phone, wallet, food, and tools. It has nothing to do with trying to set a land speed record. It has to do with being comfortable and wearing appropriate gear for the sport. Do you also make fun of skiers wearing a ski jacket and mitts? How about a guy wearing a suit going into an office? Should he not wear one because he's not on Wall Street?

Cyclists, should not be on sidewalks. I say this as a cyclist. Sidewalks are where people walk. It's in the name. They are not wide enough to have bikes going multiple ways on them. People walk their dogs, have small children, walk beside each other, have strollers, carry groceries, etc. A pedestrian should not have to move out of the way on a sidewalk for a bike coming up behind them. That is why cyclists go on roads. Whether they are going 17 km/hr or 40 km/hr.

For the argument coming up that drivers are going too fast and don't want to be inconvenienced by cyclists going to slow, it's rich to suggest in a condescending way that cyclists don't want to be inconvenienced by a pedestrian. This is why separated infrastructure aids drivers, cyclists, and pedestrians.

As for sliver, he's doing his usual shtick. He will come back saying it's not a shtick, but he's been around long enough we all know it. If that helps him get a little excited when he rides his rascal, then good for him.

Originally Posted by Sliver

k, but you can wear padded bike shorts and throw normal shorts over top. You don't have to dress up like you're a weightlifter from the 1920s to ride your ten speed to the barber for more moustache wax.

That's what I do, but I also wear a spandex jersey pretty often. More comfortable, and pockets. Plus I've got so many free ones over the years, it's basically endless cycling attire, and I'm cheap.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

again, I think you are wrong.

There aren't as many people buying renters insurance as some think

Considering the cost of rent these days? I dont doubt it.

Add to that multiple tenants to make the costs work out?

[bc-chris]

Originally Posted by Table 5

The only way we will ever come close to solving this issue is if we physically separate cars and bikes and pedestrians as much as possible. None of this sharing kumbaya crap.

Bikes are not cars, nor are they pedestrians. Bikes are their own thing...and sharing with cars or pedestrians just leads to trouble because all 3 of them travel at different speeds. In the same way that driving fast on the highway is safe as long as everyone is generally travelling at the same speed...but as soon as you introduce someone going much quicker or much slower, it turns into a dangerous situation. Mixing bikes and cars is stupid and dangerous, as the typical speed disparity is just too big. Mixing bikes with pedestrians is stupid too, but at least the speed disparity isn't quite as lethal.

We need more dedicated, physically separated (not just painted) bike lanes in any scenario where we're trying to encourage biking as a transportation alternative. When that's not possible, we should push bikes to ride in side streets...I find it insane to put painted bike lanes onto arterial roads that act as major traffic corridors, and pretend that they will get along. Never gonna happen.

this road is in my neighbourhood....
sridge by bc-chris, on Flickr

on the far left - sidewalk
in the middle - bike lane
on the right - road for cars

...only problem is that the spandex cyclists can't figure this out and continue to ride on a super narrow road.... and why is it narrow??? becuz space was needed for a separated bike lane!
i will say that the guys biking in board shorts and people on mountain bikes have figured out the bike lane.... but there's just something about that spandex group

**oh... and google needs to come back to kelowna when the skies aren't filled with forest fire smoke! ha!

[Fuzz]

^
It looks like Kelowna has a pathway speed limit of 15km/h. Probably why people ride on the roads(15km/h is painfully slow). Stupid stuff like that is the reason why good things fail.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

^
It looks like Kelowna has a pathway speed limit of 15km/h. Probably why people ride on the roads(15km/h is painfully slow). Stupid stuff like that is the reason why good things fail.

Calgary is 20km/h if I'm not mistaken.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

Do you see people playing in beer league hockey, and because they have a jersey on, do you assume they are training to be in the NHL? Many cyclists, myself included, wear spandex while cycling because it's clothing designed for cycling. The bib shorts have padding in them so your butt doesn't hurt. Contrary to popular belief, the padding in your shorts, not the padding on your saddle, is what makes the ride comfortable. A spandex bike jersey has pockets in the back for my phone, wallet, food, and tools. It has nothing to do with trying to set a land speed record. It has to do with being comfortable and wearing appropriate gear for the sport. Do you also make fun of skiers wearing a ski jacket and mitts? How about a guy wearing a suit going into an office? Should he not wear one because he's not on Wall Street?

MAMIL spotted

I have a big ass soft seat. Helps a ton.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Calgary is 20km/h if I'm not mistaken.

20 is pretty slow. I don’t mean too slow for the pathway, but I can see why you’d elect to use the road cause 20 is like what kids or people going uphill would do.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Wormius

20 is pretty slow. I don’t mean too slow for the pathway, but I can see why you’d elect to use the road cause 20 is like what kids or people going uphill would do.

You're joking right? Most people can't do 10 going up a hill.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Wormius

20 is pretty slow. I don’t mean too slow for the pathway, but I can see why you’d elect to use the road cause 20 is like what kids or people going uphill would do.

Originally Posted by Shazam

You're joking right? Most people can't do 10 going up a hill.

He might be in training for the Tour de France.

20km/h is pretty average in my experience. I ride from my house to the office and it is right around 10km and it takes my just under 30 minutes but that is downhill/flat and a couple stop lights.

[btimbit]

Bike rage videos are even more entertaining than road rage videos. Some lance armstrong wannabe absolutely losing his mind because another cyclist is going too slow for them always makes me laugh

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

Do you see people playing in beer league hockey, and because they have a jersey on, do you assume they are training to be in the NHL? Many cyclists, myself included, wear spandex while cycling because it's clothing designed for cycling. The bib shorts have padding in them so your butt doesn't hurt. Contrary to popular belief, the padding in your shorts, not the padding on your saddle, is what makes the ride comfortable. A spandex bike jersey has pockets in the back for my phone, wallet, food, and tools. It has nothing to do with trying to set a land speed record. It has to do with being comfortable and wearing appropriate gear for the sport. Do you also make fun of skiers wearing a ski jacket and mitts? How about a guy wearing a suit going into an office? Should he not wear one because he's not on Wall Street?

Cyclists, should not be on sidewalks. I say this as a cyclist. Sidewalks are where people walk. It's in the name. They are not wide enough to have bikes going multiple ways on them. People walk their dogs, have small children, walk beside each other, have strollers, carry groceries, etc. A pedestrian should not have to move out of the way on a sidewalk for a bike coming up behind them. That is why cyclists go on roads. Whether they are going 17 km/hr or 40 km/hr.

For the argument coming up that drivers are going too fast and don't want to be inconvenienced by cyclists going to slow, it's rich to suggest in a condescending way that cyclists don't want to be inconvenienced by a pedestrian. This is why separated infrastructure aids drivers, cyclists, and pedestrians.

As for sliver, he's doing his usual shtick. He will come back saying it's not a shtick, but he's been around long enough we all know it. If that helps him get a little excited when he rides his rascal, then good for him.

It's not that urban designers, safety and transportation experts, engineers, and the majority of society are correct as much as it is that Sliver and Mr.Coffee are. If we start a new movement, I'm sure we can get a couple others on our side too.

Bikes should be on sidewalks.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

He might be in training for the Tour de France.

20km/h is pretty average in my experience. I ride from my house to the office and it is right around 10km and it takes my just under 30 minutes but that is downhill/flat and a couple stop lights.

I dunno. I have been going along at 20kph ob my mountain bike and been passed by lots of people on their road bikes.

20kph on a downhill seems like you’re maybe braking?

[Flambé]

WRGMG is some asshat cut the catalytic converter off of my 76 year old father's 2000 Explorer.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Calgary is 20km/h if I'm not mistaken.

They really need to twin pathways and up the speed limit to 30 during commuting hours. 20 on flat is pretty casual with any kind of a hybrid. That’s not even considering the ebike explosion where everyone does 32.

[bc-chris]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

^
It looks like Kelowna has a pathway speed limit of 15km/h. Probably why people ride on the roads(15km/h is painfully slow). Stupid stuff like that is the reason why good things fail.

really???
huh.... the more you know i guess. i've never heard that before.

it's still stupid for cyclists to ride on that road

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by bc-chris

really???
huh.... the more you know i guess. i've never heard that before.

it's still stupid for cyclists to ride on that road

All I could find on it was this article:

https://www.kelownadailycourier.ca/l...368b72505.html

Not sure if it is just that one specific section though.

But if I had gotten a speeding ticket on that section of pathway, I'd be taking the road, too. Ridiculous speed limits are a detriment to pathways.