2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[jayswin]

I mean this in a respectful manner but I think the latest discussion requires a little perspective with regards to Mark Stone. Imagine if near the 2016 trade deadline the Ottawa Senators were looking at Johnny Gaudreau.

How do you think that would go? Because this is pretty close to that. We'd be laughing at the idea as fans. I know it's fun to speculate, but the reason Mark Stone appears to be an amazing fit for us is because he's an amazing player who would command an absurd return.

But just like Johnny Gaudreau there is next to zero chance the Sens are looking to trade him. If anything some of their other dumbass, salary clearing moves were made specifically for re-signing Mark Stone

[Poe969]

Bruins fans felt the same regarding Hamilton

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by jayswin

I mean this in a respectful manner but I think the latest discussion requires a little perspective with regards to Mark Stone. Imagine if near the 2016 trade deadline the Ottawa Senators were looking at Johnny Gaudreau.

How do you think that would go? Because this is pretty close to that. We'd be laughing at the idea as fans. I know it's fun to speculate, but the reason Mark Stone appears to be an amazing fit for us is because he's an amazing player who would command an absurd return.

But just like Johnny Gaudreau there is next to zero chance the Sens are looking to trade him. If anything some of their other dumbass, salary clearing moves were made specifically for re-signing Mark Stone

So you’re saying we should trade Johnny for Mark Stone?

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Bruins fans felt the same regarding Hamilton

Sure, but what similarities do you see? Hamilton was a very special case where he had already kind of forced their hand with huge rumblings that he would be traded and then he eventually was.

Stone has shown nothing of sort. He'll be like Gaudreau and a million other RFA's who negotiate a contract over summer, with possible snags but an eventual agreement.

[Geeoff]

Given that the Sens trading Stone would signal a major rebuild and given the fact that the Flames don't have a pick in the first 2 rounds, I don't see how we would trade for Stone without giving up Tkachuk.

[jonkaupp]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Given that the Sens trading Stone would signal a major rebuild and given the fact that the Flames don't have a pick in the first 2 rounds, I don't see how we would trade for Stone without giving up Tkachuk.

Tkachuk is already almost as good a player as Stone as a 20 year old so no thank you.

[Krynn]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

So you swing both ways.

I'll see myself out.

We need a drum Gif lol

[Bar-Down]

I'd love to get Mark Stone. I think he would be the perfect fit on this team. But it will cost a massive haul and I am sure the Ottawa rebuild will be centered around him.


Brodie for Hoffman + 2nd?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Krynn

We need a drum Gif lol

or simply

[Poe969]

I'm not saying Stone will get traded but I'm not saying he won't. Not a lot of people thought Hamilton would get traded until he did, things like that happen a lot. There have been a few times a player was traded for not a lot because other teams didn't even know a trade was possible, Phaneuf is a great example. He should/would have got a better return if more teams new he was available IMO so hopefully the Flames can do the same things to the sens for Stone.

Again, not saying it will happen...but it could.

[Love]

Originally Posted by Poe969

I'm not saying Stone will get traded but I'm not saying he won't. Not a lot of people thought Hamilton would get traded until he did, things like that happen a lot. There have been a few times a player was traded for not a lot because other teams didn't even know a trade was possible, Phaneuf is a great example. He should/would have got a better return if more teams new he was available IMO so hopefully the Flames can do the same things to the sens for Stone.

Again, not saying it will happen...but it could.

Hamilton was only traded because he refused to sign a contract extension in Boston

[Toonage]

Pierre LeBrun in the Athletic suggesting the Flames would listen to offers for Gillies if it meant getting a scoring winger.

Was kind of a no duh statement but first time I've seen Gillies name in a trade scenario from one of the insiders

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by Love

Hamilton was only traded because he refused to sign a contract extension in Boston

And no one really heard about the issues until pretty late in the game. It still could happen, not saying it will.

[neo45]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Pierre LeBrun in the Athletic suggesting the Flames would listen to offers for Gillies if it meant getting a scoring winger.

Was kind of a no duh statement but first time I've seen Gillies name in a trade scenario from one of the insiders

Well if Rittich earned the backup role full time you have to look at the possibility of moving Gilles. He won’t stay waiver ineligible forever

[oldschoolcalgary]

wrong thread

[dammage79]

Gillies may be a fit for Buffalo too. Maybe FLA but what do they have for Scoriing wingers that they'd part with?

Carolina might need some goaltending too. Ward and Darling? Don't think there's much depth behind them.

[sureLoss]

Insider trading:
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/insider...r-nash~1320359

As with E. Kane, the initial asking price for Nash is: 1st pick + prospect + lesser player/pick/prospect

Lot of GMs think asking prices are really high right now.

End of the day the bottom line price for Kane and Nash will be what Minnesota gave up for Hanzal last season which was effectively a 1st+2nd or a 1st + prospect

If the Rangers haven't already done so, the Rangers will tell teams they are prepared to retain a large portion of Nash's $7.8 million cap hit to facilitate deal and maximize the return.

Grabner's price is believed to be around a 1st round pick only.
There are some GMs who believe Grabner will be a much more cost effective option than Nash.

The word Rebuild is finally being used by the Rangers and no one is untouchable.
That doesn't mean they are going to rush everyone out the door but they are going to listen
if young players, prospects, and picks are coming in, they will consider it.



Dorion met with Melnyk in Barbados to map out plans for the trade deadline.
Usual suspects on the block : Hoffman, Smith, and Pageau.
Sens may keep Hoffman because he is showing great chemistry with Duchene
No fire sale, but Sens are trying to be best prepared for the draft in Dallas.


Kings have shown an interest in Phaneuf but not at his cap hit
Unless the Sens are willing to retain on Phaneuf, unlikely he gets moved

[Roof-Daddy]

It's funny they bring up Hanzal as a guideline for rental value when the Minny camp expressed their regret at making that deal after they got bounced right away in the playoffs.

Rental prices are too steep and it's very rarely worth the price in the end. We'll see if GMs start to wise up or not.

[jg13]

Buy low on Kevin Hayes.

[Erick Estrada]

I think Graber is a useful player but a 1st round pick? Really?