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I dont really undestand why building 7 is such a big deal. Nobody died because Building 7 collapsed, so who cares? if Bloomberg wanted to demolish his own building then good for him. It still doesn't erase this:
You can see the jet emerging from the other side of the building. It sliced all the way through. And that fireball is like 40 stories in height.
40 story explosion plus a subsequent 20 story gaping hole and fire. Thats how 3000 people died.
If the government would come clean and tell the truth, the theories will go away.
After 10 years of this, I doubt that would be the case.
There could be an official report describing how George Bush and Osama sat together in a bunker underneath the Washington monument and piloted those planes via remote control and it would be dismissed as government propaganda by "truthers".
Some people will never be satisfied.
Anyway, there was an interesting documentary on CBC yesterday. They interviewed some guy who is a founder (I think) of "Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth" or some similarly named operation. He's a real architect, representing a bunch of alleged non-kooks who might know what they are talking about, due to the professions they are in. Maybe they don't know what they are talking about, I don't know. This spokesman didn't.
When asked how all those high explosives were planted in the building with nobody noticing, he thought it might have been done during a renovation, and then he answered with a straight face that it's possible they were planted when the building was under construction, in 1983. The whole credibility question was answered right there, I don't care what letters he has after his name.
I was thinking of posting that as well, but I didnt wanna get flamed. This video is exactly how I feel about the official story/conspiracy of 9/11.
I saw another video today that completely debunks and tears apart the propaganda err i mean popular mechanics issue on 9/11. Basically Meigs-the editor in chief is caught red handed lying, and having a completely biased writing staff when this issue came out. Is everything in the video gospel? No, but the points made in the video are valid and based on fact. Be warned its a long one.
The whole point about "golly gee, they knew right away it was Osama" is hilarious.
I, and by no means and I special in this regard, had a thought when I first watched the coverage that Osama Bin laden might have been involved. If you knew anything about modern day terrorism at the time you knew that name. And knew what a massive possibility it was that it was him.
The editing in that video is great too. Cut to a shot of random news cast saying Osama, and that's proof they knew it was him?
Ha. What context did they say it in, what were the broadcasters talking about?
The video is a joke.
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Frak 10 minutes after the attack probably about half the people in Canada and the States that read a newspaper figured it was Osama Bin Laden. The guy was the most active terrorist in the world with the biggest ambitions.
I'm still waiting for proof the links the 9/11 conspiracy to lizard men disguised as high government officials, I know its somewhere on Youtube if you look hard enough.
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The whole point about "golly gee, they knew right away it was Osama" is hilarious.
I, and by no means and I special in this regard, had a thought when I first watched the coverage that Osama Bin laden might have been involved. If you knew anything about modern day terrorism at the time you knew that name. And knew what a massive possibility it was that it was him.
The editing in that video is great too. Cut to a shot of random news cast saying Osama, and that's proof they knew it was him?
Ha. What context did they say it in, what were the broadcasters talking about?
The video is a joke.
That video is awesome. Its just depicting how absurd the official story really is.
The whole point about "golly gee, they knew right away it was Osama" is hilarious.
I, and by no means and I special in this regard, had a thought when I first watched the coverage that Osama Bin laden might have been involved. If you knew anything about modern day terrorism at the time you knew that name. And knew what a massive possibility it was that it was him.
The editing in that video is great too. Cut to a shot of random news cast saying Osama, and that's proof they knew it was him?
Ha. What context did they say it in, what were the broadcasters talking about?
Frak 10 minutes after the attack probably about half the people in Canada and the States that read a newspaper figured it was Osama Bin Laden. The guy was the most active terrorist in the world with the biggest ambitions.
I'm still waiting for proof the links the 9/11 conspiracy to lizard men disguised as high government officials, I know its somewhere on Youtube if you look hard enough.
Once again ignoring the full content of the video and bringing up something irrelevent in attempt to bash what has been provided.
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Pick one part of the video and ignore the rest.
It's almost as crazy as ignoring huge jet liners crashing into buildings as a cause of them falling down and believing an incredibly unlikely thermite demolition conspiracy pulled off by the same people who apparently couldn't plant any WMDs in a whole freakin' country a couple years later.
*Almost* as crazy, that is.
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Picking everything that doesn't make sense, use ZERO thought,logic or science and conclude an consipiracy.
I love some of the other videos as well - only 3 buildings in history have collapsed from fire - this is true - all three on Sept 11, 2001 in NYC as well. BUT completely ignore the fact that the FIRE in two of them were caused by two fully loaded (fuel) JUMBO JETS FLYING INTO TO THEM AT 500KM per hour!!!!!!! and the last one was toppled on by 2 of the tallest buildings in the world, which also contributed the fire in WTC 7 which was ignored for 7+ hours by FDNY (as there were huh more urgent things going on) before it collapsed.
Just absolute stupidity
I could go on forever, but you refuse to address any ones real questions, so i am not wasting my time.
If anything you should be mad at the canadian goverment who under 3 PM's have spent 92 billion on security in the last 10 years, all thanks to the US goverment and whatever they were trying to accomplish!!!!!!
Last edited by MelBridgeman; 09-12-2011 at 11:50 PM.
IMO, people who flat out deny any wrong doing on the governments part come off just as stupid and ridiculous as the people who flat out won't accept anything the government says as truth. But, it seems the world is full of people who are on the extreme ends of the scale when it comes to conspiracies, religion, ect. It really just astounds me that anyone can believe anything so whole heartedly without knowing all the facts.
The fact is, none of us know exactly how or why the events of 9/11 occurred, so how can any of us be so sure one way or the other?
Harping on someone for spewing conspiracy theories as facts is one thing, but harassing someone who just wants to get answers is juvenile and quite frankly, pathetic.
IMO, people who flat out deny any wrong doing on the governments.
To suggest that the goverment of the US is responsible for covering up 9/11 defies LOGIC. Sure they could be lying about stuff, sure they could be accused of draggin their feet in the face of good intelligence.... BUT to suggest - this is a goverment conspiracy is PLAIN lunacy. Just think about it - all the people that need to keep their mouth shuts - THE BILLIONS of TRILLIONS that have been spent by countries AROUND the world on security. THE HUGE ecomonic toll that leads back to 911 - and no one in the know has said anything? It's simply impossible.
there are going be things that don't make sense, that maybe you don't understand - but those are small pieces of the puzzle, look at the entire puzzle THE BIG PICTURE -
If you are a truther - YOU DO NOT have an open mind - its closed and its a dark scary place - glad 99% of the world isn't there.
To suggest that a group of extremists who have attacked in the past, who would not think twice about blowing your brains out if they had a chance, had nothing to do with this - its a slap in the face to the victims, the first responders - the families WHO Have gone through HELL and any logical thinking human being - its a disgrace
if you aren't making good coin off being a truther - i wonder about you.
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This is a very good propaganda piece but it's absolute nonsense.
We can be sure of several things beyond a reasonable doubt:
Planes hit the WTC causing the two towers and WTC 7 to collapse.
A plane hit the pentagon.
The 19 men charged with hijacking the planes did, in fact, hijack the planes.
You can start your conspiracy theories here, but only loonies do not believe those 4 facts.
Why in god's name would any person think that WTC 7 was a controlled demolition or that a plane didn't hit the pentagon? It makes no sense from a motive standpoint or any other standpoint. The mission would have been accomplished with just the two towers collapsing. No one would bother with sending a missile into the Pentagon or destroying one of the buildings next to the two towers if it was a government conspiracy. 9/11 conspiracy believers are about the worst detectives in the world.
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Once again ignoring the full content of the video and bringing up something irrelevent in attempt to bash what has been provided.
Give me a break, that video is basically playing a really decent games of 10 degree's of Kevin Bacon. They take 80 billion different things and try to pin it together into a conspiracy.
I'm actually surprised that they didn't take it a step further and attach the conspiracy to the Screen Actors Guild since Osama Bin Laden is actually a stage actor from the Chicago area, who for a short time was in Death of a salesman with Kryra Sedgwich who's married to Kevin Bacon.
That video spews a billion different points, but doesn't really truly link them into a chain of evidence. Its similar to the 10 million dollar pants law suit that got thrown out of court.
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