🚨 The Zayne Parekh show has arrived 🚨

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Stop comparing/projecting Parekh to Bouchard..the ####?

The entire tournament the coaching staff and players have been noting that his defensive game has been just fine, and concerns there overblown. So unless you're a troll why would you discount those remarks and continue throwing that name around.

He was also even +/- with all his "warts" in his start with the Flames.

Bouchard sucks aggressively in his end like no one else.

[Rhett44]

I don't really care if he is cocky, we could use some of that after we lost Tkachuk. It is not like we have a veteran group full of winners, except for Coleman and Kadri who have won a cup.

I hate how every hockey player is such a robot, the league could use a bit of attitude.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I get that a few posters here want to be able to state any opinion without anyone questioning it but that’s a good example of why all opinions are not created equal.

Legitimately terrible take lol.

It’s not even clever trolling if they are trying to get a rise. Rhett is way better at it

[shutout]

Originally Posted by Bonded

It’s not even clever trolling if they are trying to get a rise. Rhett is way better at it

Not trying to get a rise.
When I watch Parekh I see incredible skill and offensive potential.
At the same time I see a player that is going to pinch and does not have the wheels to be able to recover. He is going to lose more puck races and create more odd man rushes.
I think in the defensive zone he gets caught watching the puck and not playing his assigned area and trusting his teammates to do their jobs.

Can he fix these areas?
Yes maybe he can, I am just in the minority when it comes to seeing his ability and desire to do so. I think that means he tops out as a bottom pairing need for offense style of defenseman.

[dino7c]

Zayne is one point shy of tying the points record...likely would hit if if not injured today and was probaby mid on the team defensively if we are being fair.

Named by management a top 3 player...he was probably #1, maybe at worst #2 on the team. Ahead of McKenna, Misa, ect.

Flames fans have been dreaming about this for years but some need to poke holes. Have some of you never watched junior hockey? Its so exciting because its all out back and forth not robotic defensive systems like we see in the NHL.

If "6th or 7th dman" isn't a troll its just a really, really bad take

[shutout]

The junior player he is being compared to is Ryan Ellis when it comes to points record.
Good but not great defenseman.
If you prefer maybe that is where I see Parekh becoming.

Sorry that this messes with your dreams, but realistically he is closer to Ellis in projected outcome than he is to Q Hughes.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Stop comparing/projecting Parekh to Bouchard..the ####?

The entire tournament the coaching staff and players have been noting that his defensive game has been just fine, and concerns there overblown. So unless you're a troll why would you discount those remarks and continue throwing that name around.

He was also even +/- with all his "warts" in his start with the Flames.

Bouchard sucks aggressively in his end like no one else.

Bouchard had zero goals and 3 assists at the WJC

how about that?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by shutout

The junior player he is being compared to is Ryan Ellis when it comes to points record.
Good but not great defenseman.
If you prefer maybe that is where I see Parekh becoming.

Sorry that this messes with your dreams, but realistically he is closer to Ellis in projected outcome than he is to Q Hughes.

Did he break Bobby Orr scoring records in junior?
Also, Q Hughes was talked about similarly by people like you...then they put him with Tanev

Not to mention Quinn Hughes had 5 points over 2 WCJ

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by shutout

If the puck was going on offense or on the powerplay Parekh looked great.
So much skill offensively.

Defensively that whole team, including Parekh, got caught looking at the puck and not playing sound positional defense. Absolute joke how that team of all stars ran around when they didn't have the puck.

Parekh looked slow and like he didn't care when it came to getting back on the empty net goal. Not sure he is the kind of player you can win with.

Looks to be a Shayne Gostisbehere type of 6-7 defenseman.
Maybe his ceiling is a Phil Housley or Bouchard.
Can play on the power play and when down a goal but not an all situation player.

LOL

Remember when most people on here thought Giordano's ceiling was a #4-5, and Brodie's was a #6? And that was when they were 24-25 years old.

The kid is 19. We should probably wait at least until he shaves with a razor instead of a washcloth before we strap a ceiling over his head.

[PepsiFree]

It’s good to have original thinkers who go against the grain. But if your opinion is so far from reality that basically nobody else shares it and people confuse it for a bad trolling attempt, it might be worth retracting and reconsidering completely.

Might as well say you don’t think anyone else on Team Canada is going to make the NHL.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by shutout

The junior player he is being compared to is Ryan Ellis when it comes to points record.
Good but not great defenseman.
If you prefer maybe that is where I see Parekh becoming.

Sorry that this messes with your dreams, but realistically he is closer to Ellis in projected outcome than he is to Q Hughes.

Ellis was a top four dman and a top pairing guy at some points in Nashville. That’s a far cry from a #6/7 dman.

[dino7c]

McKenna tops out as a 4th liner I guess by this logic

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Ellis comparable? We'll take it!

Thought you were going to make an actual 6/7 D comparison.

[Erick Estrada]

A 1200 point defensemen like Housley would be a massive win for this organization. He was made for today's NHL rather than the clutch and grab era he played over half his career in.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

There is so much runway between now (19) and what the kid will end up as in the NHL (maybe not until 25/26) that any one pretending like they have it all worked out attempting to brace people for imminent disappointment should be laughed out of the building.

Unless they're willing to present their crystal ball for all to look into.

There's also probably a slim chance he winds up with Bouchard's defensive acumen given that the he's being developed in the Flames system. This team actually cares about how players perform in their end, and have plenty of time to work with Zayne.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I have always defined cockiness as unearned confidence, while I just listed why his confidence is well-earned.

I think the Ego problem is "vets" thinking that they must know/be better and Zayne needs to abide by their "culture" or something. This would align with reports we have heard over years of time. This is the age old "country club".

Zayne's britches deserve to be pretty damn big. So, if it's a cockiness problem, by my read he would have to be OUTRAGEOUSLY overstated to reach cocky. That is not the impression I get from any report or interview about the kid.

There really isn't much to comment on, is there?

I haven't seen any proof that he is too big for his britches. I haven't seen any proof that the Flames players think he's an ego case, or are trying to reign him in.

Social media and interview training is pretty standard across the league.

But can we not admit that it could be a problem IF he has an ego that needs to adjust to a new league? Is that impossible? Or are all concerns and criticisms of young players to be avoided as a rule?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

A 1200 point defensemen like Housley would be a massive win for this organization. He was made for today's NHL rather than the clutch and grab era he played over half his career in.

Housley might be an even better comparison than Hughes.

And yeah, if that what he turns into, it is a massive win.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by shutout

Not trying to get a rise.
When I watch Parekh I see incredible skill and offensive potential.
At the same time I see a player that is going to pinch and does not have the wheels to be able to recover. He is going to lose more puck races and create more odd man rushes.
I think in the defensive zone he gets caught watching the puck and not playing his assigned area and trusting his teammates to do their jobs.

Can he fix these areas?
Yes maybe he can, I am just in the minority when it comes to seeing his ability and desire to do so. I think that means he tops out as a bottom pairing need for offense style of defenseman.

Tops out as a bottom pairing? So that is the best you think he can be after he develops?

That is grim lol.

[Lewis_D]

I'm not reading anything into his comments. I remember being 19 and not articulating what I was trying to say in the best manner in conversation... hell, it even happens now in my mid 30's. And that's without a camera and abunch of journalists around me.

My other observation - I thought Canada could have benefit from having a couple more shutdown defenceman that would compliment players like Parekh, not only did I think Reid look pretty shaky all tournament but I don't think he was a very good partner for Parekh.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Lewis_D

I'm not reading anything into his comments. I remember being 19 and not articulating what I was trying to say in the best manner in conversation... hell, it even happens now in my mid 30's. And that's without a camera and abunch of journalists around me.

My other observation - I thought Canada could have benefit from having a couple more shutdown defenceman that would compliment players like Parekh, not only did I think O'Reilly look pretty shaky all tournament but I don't think he was a very good partner for Parekh.

Cameron Reid?

Agreed .. he was shaky.