Malaysia Jet missing-Officials conclude crash in Indian ocean/all lives presumed lost

[nik-]

Especially if the route takes them through Syria into Israel. We're talking like a 60km response time from the Syrian border to Tel Aviv.

[T@T]

Pakistan:
Plane wasn't on our radar

Rest of the world:
Check their airport tarmacs

[browna]

Originally Posted by T@T

Pakistan:
Plane wasn't on our radar

Rest of the world:
Check their airport tarmacs

Yeah, at this point over a week later, any counties anywhere in that area denying anything in this fashion are spewing politics and protecting its own national security first, and not releasing this in the name of helping out with the search finding the plane.

Just a CYA for governments, disavowing knowledge; not wanting to let the world know they were either caught with their pants down with incompetence, or, they saw something but didn't tell anyone (fear of giving their radar capabilities to the rest of the world), or, worst case, knows full well that this plane may be harbored by people within the country.

[AcGold]

this is up there with Tunguska incident in terms of surreal and bizarre

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by jeffman

I think it won't be able to crash it into anything. If the plane does resurface, it will be swarmed by fighter escorts if it enters an airspace given the circumstances

I'm not overly confident in that considering they can't even figure out if it crashed or not. The scary thing is the plane could already be outfitted with explosives and heading for a major airport/city.

[flamesfan1297]

Can't imagine what the family's are going through right now

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by flamesfan1297

Can't imagine what the family's are going through right now

Could you imagine how the news would affect you with CNN and all the other major news outlets constantly blaring "breaking news" every time there's a tiny little update on a course correction? It almost seems like every news update the Malaysians are announcing some new wacky theory conjured up by their shamans. You could never get any closure at all.

[Wormius]

^ It's pretty much the Chilean miners episode all over again.

[Ducay]

I know someone mentioned it above, but it wasn't really emphasised.

Transponder and ACARS systems were shut down, and then whoever was at the controls when they last radio'd with Malaysian ATC said "all right, good night" and shortly made the sharp turn to the west.

So basically the main lead will be trying to understand who said that phrase, as they'd be the ones in control who shut down the comms systems.

[nik-]

I'm of the mindset at this point that this plane is never found.

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by nik-

I'm of the mindset at this point that this plane is never found.

Either that or the plane will find us at some unpleasant time however unlikely that may be. Either way the crew and passengers are already long dead at this point.

[killer_carlson]

I just hope whatever end those passengers met, that it came quickly to minimize the fear, panic and suffering.

[nik-]

There is thought that it went south now. Which means a crash in the southern Indian Ocean, which means a debris field that had been scattered by currents for a week before the Malaysians even admitted what they knew within hours.

Senior Malaysian military officers became aware within hours of the radar data once word spread that a civilian airliner had vanished. The Malaysian government nonetheless organized and oversaw an expensive and complex international search effort in the Gulf of Thailand that lasted for a full week. Only on Saturday morning did Prime Minister Najib Razak finally shut it down after admitting what had already been widely reported in the news media: Satellite data showed that the engines on the missing plane had continued to run for nearly six more hours after it left Malaysian airspace.

Finding the plane and figuring out what happened to it is now a far more daunting task than if the plane had been intercepted. If the aircraft ended up in the southern Indian Ocean, as some aviation experts now suggest, then floating debris could have subsequently drifted hundreds of miles, making it extremely hard to figure out where the cockpit voice and data recorders sank.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/16/wo...0.html?hp&_r=0

So as a result of a reluctance to admit that it was hijacked, and the subsequent pursuance of a known dead end, this thing is likely never found.

Additionally,

And because the recorders keep only the last two hours of cockpit conversation, even the aircraft’s recorders may hold few secrets.

That's surprising news to me.

[nik-]

uggggh .... this is the stuff that makes this just the worst

http://www.latimes.com/world/worldno...#axzz2wB8rsEYQ

[jschick88]

Aboard a U.S. Navy P-8A Poseidon, the U.S. military's most advanced maritime surveillance aircraft, the nine-man crew scoured a swath of sea some 7,500 square miles—an area bigger than New Jersey—in the hopes of finding Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.

From the window, the sea and sky smudged together in an indistinguishable gray blur, and every white wave-top appeared momentarily to the untrained eye to be something important. But the crew found no evidence of the missing plane on Sunday, having covered only a fraction of the Bay of Bengal and the vast Indian Ocean to the south.

The P-8A is the most sophisticated aircraft available to help find the Malaysia Airlines flight that vanished more than a week ago. It can fly 575 miles an hour and is equipped with sensors and imaging devices strong enough to spot submarines.

Acting on intelligence of a possible debris field to the north of the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, the P-8A—designated Rescue 74—departed Kuala Lumpur late Sunday morning, heading 900 miles northwest. The aircraft had only joined the search effort the day before.

Five crewmen monitoring consoles on the P-8A's port side used radar and both optical and infrared cameras to sweep the ocean's surface, while spotters also visually scanned the water. Dashes on the radar scope appeared sporadically, only to be dismissed as small fishing boats.

http://online.wsj.com/news/article_e...MDEwNjExNDYyWj

[FlameOn]

Spammers are profiteering from the whole Malaysian flight mess. Shameful people are putting up fake links to try to take advantage of the hype and awareness around the situation.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...s-9194660.html

[Acey]

Words can't even describe how badass the P-8A is... it's basically a 737-800 (like a WestJet plane) jacked full of so much tech that it costs over $200 million. If they can't find her in the P-8A, you might as well throw in the towel.

[flamesfan1297]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

Spammers are profiteering from the whole Malaysian flight mess. Shameful people are putting up fake links to try to take advantage of the hype and awareness around the situation.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...s-9194660.html

Thats terrible

[Regular_John]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

Spammers are profiteering from the whole Malaysian flight mess. Shameful people are putting up fake links to try to take advantage of the hype and awareness around the situation.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...s-9194660.html

This is nothing new, yes it's shameful as hell, but spammers jamming the news of the day into their emails/links etc is pretty standard practice. War in Ukraine, Columbine, Boston Bombings, whatever subject matter they can get folks to click on can be turned into dollars.

I am in no way defending these scum bags, just pointing out that the Malaysia Airlines flight is just the latest even to be used in this manner.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Acey

Words can't even describe how badass the P-8A is... it's basically a 737-800 (like a WestJet plane) jacked full of so much tech that it costs over $200 million. If they can't find her in the P-8A, you might as well throw in the towel.

Your assuming the plane is in the water, at this point if the data is correct I don't think it is.