2013 NCAA football thread

[PIMking]

if it's suppose to be the top four teams then it needs to be the top four teams. I can care less if it were two big ten, 12, or whatever. the top four teams should be in.

a #6 team shouldn't be in because they won their conference, that's freaking stupid if the playoff doesn't use the top four teams.

[wpgflamesfan]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

If you want a playoff to seriously be decided by the best teams, you need to do the opposite of big superconferences. You need to be realistic about who can actually win a national title and cut the fat. I'd say you could go with four 8 team conferences, two divisions of 4 per conference, and that 32 teams is fair. You play each team in your division twice (home and home) and each team from the other division once. Then you have your two division champs play for the conference title, and the four team playoff is set.

You're probably right. Although instituting super-conferences or your scenario would, in my opinion, ruin college football. The monumental upsets, the rankings (as biased as they may be), and the controversy are all part of what make college football so great. I love the fact that teams need an insanely special season to win it all and the last thing i'd want to see is an "amateur" NFL where a team like baltimore can get hot for four weeks an win it all.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

Just fixed that up for you, and it points out kinda the obvious. Head to head, Alabama lost. End of story, end of Bama's season.

it doesn't matter how many times Alabama could beat Auburn out of 10. Fact is, they didn't, not in a hypothetical series, but in a real life, meaningful Iron Bowl. Bama doesn't deserve to be NC this year, just get over it. Easily the top 2 teams that deserve to be there, are. Same as last year, same as the year before.

Great for them. Not really sure what your point is as I already said in this system Auburn should be in but that since I would rather see the best teams play then the system is stupid and the way Auburn has won games matters.

The two that deserve to be there under this system are there the two teams that deserve to be there on merit and ability are not.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by moon

Great for them. Not really sure what your point is as I already said in this system Auburn should be in but that since I would rather see the best teams play then the system is stupid and the way Auburn has won games matters.

The two that deserve to be there under this system are there the two teams that deserve to be there on merit and ability are not.

What an odd thing to say. So the stamps should have been in the grey cup because their roster on paper and their stats were better? What's the point of playing the games, in this world we just look at perceived talent and reputation, in large part built from previous seasons and declare a NC based on that!

Maybe we have a 8 team playoff and in each round its a best of 7. That oughta neuter any value in any single game for ya.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by PIMking

if it's suppose to be the top four teams then it needs to be the top four teams. I can care less if it were two big ten, 12, or whatever. the top four teams should be in.

a #6 team shouldn't be in because they won their conference, that's freaking stupid if the playoff doesn't use the top four teams.

Winning your conference should be a pre-req to winning the NC. Every team has a chance to win their conference, if they don't, then they didn't do enough to win. SEC already gets a chance to settle who is their best team, they shouldn't do that in the playoffs. I don't see any downside to that approach.

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

Winning your conference should be a pre-req to winning the NC. Every team has a chance to win their conference, if they don't, then they didn't do enough to win. SEC already gets a chance to settle who is their best team, they shouldn't do that in the playoffs. I don't see any downside to that approach.

so 2 loss teams who are ranked 6-9 should be in the playoff before the #4 team because they didn't win their conference?

[nik-]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

Winning your conference should be a pre-req to winning the NC. Every team has a chance to win their conference, if they don't, then they didn't do enough to win. SEC already gets a chance to settle who is their best team, they shouldn't do that in the playoffs. I don't see any downside to that approach.

No it shouldn't. It should be the best 4/8 teams, not conference winners. I want to see the best play, not the best minus the best who play in strong conferences since you can only have the winner of each and plus the winner of a weak sister conference.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by PIMking

so 2 loss teams who are ranked 6-9 should be in the playoff before the #4 team because they didn't win their conference?

Yeah, why should you get a chance to play for the NC if you can't even win your conference? Judging teams across conference involves far too much guesswork, and has way too much bias, especially as there are less and less meaningful out of conference games.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

Yeah, why should you get a chance to play for the NC if you can't even win your conference? Judging teams across conference involves far too much guesswork, and has way too much bias, especially as there are less and less meaningful out of conference games.

Why would you attach so much weight to a conference basically decided by geography and not want better teams playing?

[nik-]

Also, I just realized that it's OU that Bama is playing now in the Sugar Bowl instead of Oregon and I can't help but admit that I'm pretty disappointed.

[wpgflamesfan]

Originally Posted by nik-

Also, I just realized that it's OU that Bama is playing now in the Sugar Bowl instead of Oregon and I can't help but admit that I'm pretty disappointed.

I have no problem with the national championship being decided the way it is, but absolutely hate the conference tie-ins/allegiances to the other bowl games. The games don't mean anything anyways, so why not create some crazy fantasy match-ups (bama/oregon) that we never get to see in the regular season.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by wpgflamesfan

I have no problem with the national championship being decided the way it is, but absolutely hate the conference tie-ins/allegiances to the other bowl games. The games don't mean anything anyways, so why not create some crazy fantasy match-ups (bama/oregon) that we never get to see in the regular season.

The Sugar Bowl has no allegiance to the Big 12. Last time a Big 12 team played in it was 2004. The reason OU is going is because they will travel better to New Orleans. All about $$$>

[wpgflamesfan]

Originally Posted by FlamingLonghorn

The Sugar Bowl has no allegiance to the Big 12. Last time a Big 12 team played in it was 2004. The reason OU is going is because they will travel better to New Orleans. All about $$$>

The sugarbowl is an SEC/Big-12 game next season. Gotta start the relationship off on the right foot. I do agree that OU will travel better, however the tv ratings will worse.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

What an odd thing to say. So the stamps should have been in the grey cup because their roster on paper and their stats were better? What's the point of playing the games, in this world we just look at perceived talent and reputation, in large part built from previous seasons and declare a NC based on that!

No that sounds like much more of a BcS model where teams make it in based solely on the regular season. If this were the BcS the Stamps and Argo's would be facing off in the NC game.

The BcS does look at the perceived talent and reputation and uses that to determine who gets into the NC game right now.

[nik-]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...a-crimson-tide

Saban is staying for now. Queue the "if he says he's staying, he's leaving" crowd.

[Drake]

@ChipBrownOB:

Mack Brown is officially retiring after 16 years as coach at Texas.

Mack Brown: "Now, the program is again being pulled in different directions, and I think the time is right for a change."

[nik-]

Mack Brown is pulling it in the losing direction and other people want to pull it in the winning direction.

[nik-]

Also Jameis Winston won the Heisman.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by nik-

Also Jameis Winston won the Heisman.

Second freshman -- QB no less -- to win it in a row. I don't think college football will ever become the same as college basketball (where the best HS players only play one year of college, if they play at all), but it seems we're seeing a bit of a shift with these young QB's excelling at the college level.

[PIMking]

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