Israel declares war on Hamas

[GullFoss]

Should rename the thread the "genocide of the Palestinian people" imo. Figures suggest 5% of the Gaza population has now been injured/killed up to the end of April (7 months into mission).

If the offensive to root out Hamas continues another 10-years, the entire population of Gaza can be eliminated, along with Hamas. Great success.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Azure

Are you living under a rock? The UN Watch has been collecting evidence for years that the UNRWA is basically a front for Hamas.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1787466983568486841

I actually bothered to open the report and skimmed through some of this "overwhelming" evidence.

The evidence? Nothing more than newspaper reports reporting the original unsupported Israeli claims.

At Least 14 UNRWA Employees Participated In The October 7th Atrocities
On January 29, 2024, the Wall Street Journal published an article, citing Israeli intelligence, revealing that at least 12 UNRWA employees directly participated in the
October 7th Hamas atrocities, 1,200 UNRWA Gaza employees are Hamas and PIJ operatives, and another 6,000 have close relatives who are affiliated with those terrorist groups.[22]

So here's what we have
Israel makes a load of claims
The claims are reported in newspapers
The claims are investigated and found to be baseless based on zero evidence presented to support them.
UN watch does a literature review of all the media reports of the original baseless accusations and presents it as if they've been collecting evidence.

Azure tries to present it as a something new when in fact it's so useless even Israel didn't use it.

He keeps rambling about overwhelming evidence but as yet has produced nothing. Anything to excuse the genocide.

[Azure]

I disagree that its a genocide, but this is pretty grotesque. Go team military industrial complex I guess. Biden getting played like a fool by Israel.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1795495026795200880

[Azure]

Not that anyone actually cares about the facts.
Also, doesn't change my view on it, in so far that Israel needs to assume that there are Hamas military resources stored among civilian areas, and that this could happen almost every single time, and as such these attacks serve literally no purpose.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1795528797883695105

[Fuzz]

The attacks have less than no purpose, they have negative utility.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel...215629?cmp=rss


Murder, terrorism, genocide...pick your descriptor. Go ahead and justify it in your head if you can. I know some here will.

Murder, terrorism, and genocide are all the correct descriptors.

Awful situation.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

Should rename the thread the "genocide of the Palestinian people" imo. Figures suggest 5% of the Gaza population has now been injured/killed up to the end of April (7 months into mission).

If the offensive to root out Hamas continues another 10-years, the entire population of Gaza can be eliminated, along with Hamas. Great success.

Should be titled 'Hamas declares war on Israel' because that is what happened.

Maybe Hamas can surrender and give up the hostages, and the war will be over.

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

Should be titled 'Hamas declares war on Israel' because that is what happened.

Maybe Hamas can surrender and give up the hostages, and the war will be over.

That's outrageous, Israel started all of this by allowing Hamas to butcher and rape 1200 women and children!



Everyone knows Hamas is not to blame for anything here. If I say "genocide" about 20 times will it make me sound smart?

But seriously, we don't talk about the hostages here, it bring down the mood.

[Looch City]

Hamas should just start killing hostages for every civilian killed.

There I solve it!

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Looch City

Hamas should just start killing hostages for every civilian killed.

There I solve it!

You think Hamas cares about Gaza citizens lives? That has to be a joke.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

You think Hamas cares about Gaza citizens lives? That has to be a joke.

You think Israel cares about their hostages? They were carpet bombing Gaza knowing their hostages were there. Let's not pretend either side cares much about innocent lives as long as their goals are met.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

You think Hamas cares about Gaza citizens lives? That has to be a joke.

Of course not.

Hamas doesn't care. Israel doesn't care either.

So let them all die, who cares?

[Mr.Coffee]

My personal opinion is that what Israel is doing isn’t all too different practically speaking than the holocaust. It is genocide and the ultimate form of racism. And at this point, it’s really not justified. Like I could kind of understand the retaliation out the gate but it’s been clear for awhile now this is no longer human.

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

You think Israel cares about their hostages? They were carpet bombing Gaza knowing their hostages were there. Let's not pretend either side cares much about innocent lives as long as their goals are met.

That's never happened but don't let the truth stand in the way of your baseless claims, wouldn't be the first time.


I would be shocked if you even knew what "carpet bombing" meant.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Azure

I disagree that its a genocide, but this is pretty grotesque. Go team military industrial complex I guess. Biden getting played like a fool by Israel.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1795495026795200880

What an absolute dooche bag she is

https://twitter.com/user/status/1795514083036344650

[Snuffleupagus]

This type of crap needs to be stopped, this is just as bad as Hamas teaching young Gazans to hate and kill Jews, I fear the worst for humanity when I see this.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1795510178898694221

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

That's never happened but don't let the truth stand in the way of your baseless claims, wouldn't be the first time.


I would be shocked if you even knew what "carpet bombing" meant.

I'm going to let you in on a little secret...you're not as funny as you think you are. Please stop trying to be edgy and a comedian.

You're nothing but a troll. Go back to the hole you crawled out of.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

Should be titled 'Hamas declares war on Israel' because that is what happened.

Maybe Hamas can surrender and give up the hostages, and the war will be over.

I agree with your first sentence. However, I disagree with the inference you seem to draw from that fact: that Hamas' instigation of the conflict somehow gives Israel carte blanche to do anything in response without criticism or moral blameworthiness.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Azure

Not that anyone actually cares about the facts.
Also, doesn't change my view on it, in so far that Israel needs to assume that there are Hamas military resources stored among civilian areas, and that this could happen almost every single time, and as such these attacks serve literally no purpose.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1795528797883695105

Just two bombs in the context of at least 75,000 tonnes of explosives that have been dropped so far.

[TheIronMaiden]

"It was just two bombs" is such a pathetic take. Expecting everyone to forget that for 89 days they dropped 21 bombs an hour.