Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Sorry what is the main objection on this one? Is it just an investment (in which case there will be a contract, with set provisions, expected returns, legally enforceable, etc.)?

Is this like CPP related maybe? You got any details whatsoever?

Hell, might end up being a hell of an investment for all we know?

https://www.thestar.com/politics/fed...ontrol.html?rf

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Yoho

The knives are out.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1669410954495311893

Marco's problem is he's been caught in lies on almost every file he's been involved in.



I love that he tried to use the typical thing that politicians do which is walk away from Reporters and he got swarmed.



To me the smart thing by Trudeau would be to use him as a bullet shield and fire him.

[zamler]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1669427325132234752

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Marco's problem is he's been caught in lies on almost every file he's been involved in.



I love that he tried to use the typical thing that politicians do which is walk away from Reporters and he got swarmed.



To me the smart thing by Trudeau would be to use him as a bullet shield and fire him.

Marco will be the next meat shield to be thrown under the bus.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by GGG

Sure that works, evidence of lower standard of living as a result of specific Trudeau policy or actions and why you think their is causality between them.

Not sure how many you need. But I’ll try.

Racking up more debt than any Canadian government in history and printing money like there’s no tomorrow to pay for it devalues the Canadian dollar and makes everyone poorer due to inflation.

Let me know how many you need.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Not sure how many you need. But I’ll try.

Racking up more debt than any Canadian government in history and printing money like there’s no tomorrow to pay for it devalues the Canadian dollar and makes everyone poorer due to inflation.

Let me know how many you need.

The Canadian dollar was around $0.76USD when he took office and it’s $0.76USD today.

[Doctorfever]

Interest rate when Trudeau was elected 2.70%

Interest rate now 6.96%

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1669547850013999104

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by curves2000

I am not puppet messaging for billionaires or Bell or any other corporation.

It came off that way reading your post, the content was fairly standard rhetoric but if that was purely coincidental then fair enough.

Certain realities in the media business are just happening but there is a massive difference between a TSN radio station in Edmonton talking about the 2 loser NHL team we have here in Alberta and the news division giving valuable and vital journalism.

This is really too vague to respond to.

Insert whatever policies, politics, concerns or values you hold near and dear to your heart, you have always been fairly well informed on this board. Are you going to go and report on the concerns and report back?

Not as a reporter no, but I certainly do my best to keep the public as informed as I can about a number of political issues and deal with these issues on a daily basis.

Can we expect critical analysis and fact checking on an important criminal trial in the area from you?

If I chose to be a reporter yes, but I’m not a reporter and I’m not sure why you’re expecting random people to report on those types of things when there are far more qualified people currently doing so. You’ve provided zero evidence that there is a shortage of reporters providing such analysis.

What scandal will you break or hit back on people in power with your sources?

If I happened to stumble upon a scandal I’d gladly contact the media about it. As for “hitting back” at people in power I’m definitely not shy about doing so.

Probably not much because it isn't your job but than when it's nobody's job, what happens?

I think challenging those in power is the responsibility of everyone so whether it’s my job or not I do it.

Government and companies can than do literally whatever it is that they want to you and to me and to everybody else pays the price. It already happens already and we should be pushing back.

They can try to, and they certainly have a lot of power but when people are united they can make change.

I get that this isn't a topic or concern for a lot of people and that's a shame. Canadian's a lot of the times have their noses in the air and are about as clueless as flies when it comes to a lot of matters. We take our lifestyle and our democracy for granted 100%. People in other countries don't cause they have experienced it firsthand and what happens when power corrupts. We need a strong, independent free press for the good of all.

I agree on the complacency but I disagree with your assessment that our independent free press is in jeopardy.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Interest rate when Trudeau was elected 2.70%

Interest rate now 6.96%

How does that compare with the rest of the world though?

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Interest rate when Trudeau was elected 2.70%

Interest rate now 6.96%

How many infrastructure projects did he cancel that indirected eliminated billions of dollars of investment in Canada.

You can’t tax your way to prosperity. But that seems to be the gameplan.

As O’Leary said. Canada is a country run by idiots.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Goriders

As O’Leary said. Canada is a country run by idiots.

O'Leary? I guess he'd know -- that man has failed upward so many times in his life, it's uncanny.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

How does that compare with the rest of the world though?

Assuming he meant “inflation” rate, here is Canada vs Australia.

[Yamer]

As O'Leary said: "Nobody drives into a boat they can see."

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Goriders

How many infrastructure projects did he cancel that indirected eliminated billions of dollars of investment in Canada.

Enlighten us all.

You can’t tax your way to prosperity. But that seems to be the gameplan.

Can you cut your way to prosperity? If so, can you provide a roadmap?

As O’Leary said. Canada is a country run by idiots.

You consider O’Leary to be qualified to determine who is and isn’t an idiot?

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Not sure how many you need. But I’ll try.

Racking up more debt than any Canadian government in history and printing money like there’s no tomorrow to pay for it devalues the Canadian dollar and makes everyone poorer due to inflation.

Let me know how many you need.

Those are claims not evidence or facts. So I’d be happy with one

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by GGG

Those are claims not evidence or facts. So I’d be happy with one

Trudeau’s government has generated more debt than the rest of the federal governments combined. That’s not a claim.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Enlighten us all.



Can you cut your way to prosperity? If so, can you provide a roadmap?



You consider O’Leary to be qualified to determine who is and isn’t an idiot?

Northern gateway, energy east, Petronas LNG plant.

Reducing taxes encourages investment. So yes.

He’s probably qualified to comment on business acumen whether you agree with his politics or not.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Trudeau’s government has generated more debt than the rest of the federal governments combined. That’s not a claim.

It’s a claim until it’s backed with evidence. I agree that statement is likely a fact though I’d want to see inflation adjusted numbers first..

But even then there is nothing to link that fact to anything that you claim is happening. Where is the evidence of causality. Also needing discussion is even if you can prove that Trudeau’s money printing cause the things you say it caused the next question is was it better than the alternative?

Let’s look at your claim that everybody is poorer. We know that to be false as some people are certainly better off. Is the median person poorer? I don’t know asset inflation through the stock and housing market pre and post Covid generated a tonne of wealth that outpaced inflation. Do you have evidence to back up the claim that people are poorer through whatever metric you intended.

In general though I don’t believe there is evidence currently available to support your previous claim. I actually think we do not know if the policies around coming out of Covid were correct. We are probably 5 years away from knowing this info.

[Goriders]

If your dollar is worth less that covers everyone using the dollar at any point in time.

“When we print money, the supply of money increases, demand for goods increases. If the supply of goods stays steady, but doesn't increase in line with demand, then prices increase. What you bought with $100 yesterday costs more than $100 today.”

This along with the impact of all of the energy taxes/policies making it more expensive trickles down to everything in the supply chain.

So everyone is poorer than they could be minus the above. The above are all policies and decisions directly made by the current federal government.

Let me know if this describes it well enough.