2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

Please be Kronwall.

I am intrigued. Anyone watch Kronwall this season, in the past he was a stud, but at 38 does he still have game?

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I am intrigued. Anyone watch Kronwall this season, in the past he was a stud, but at 38 does he still have game?

Looks like Cory Sarich in his last year here

[TheScorpion]

I watch most every Detroit game (Thomas Vanek is one of my favourite players, as useless and mediocre as he's been this season).

Kronwall is old, slow, and not great. He is certainly not an ideal top-pairing player, where he's had to play in Danny DeKeyser's absence. Kronwall could be fine as a depth option, but although he shoots the wrong way, Nick Jensen would be a much better and (likely) cheaper option. He's faster, more assured with the puck, and can play the PK.

Kronwall would be a C-plus addition. He'd be fine... but he's not nearly as physical as he used to be, and he's slower than a glacier.

[LWcrowfoot]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I would be very hesitant to acquire Silfverberg. He's quite poor defensively and is a rather inefficient scorer. Apparently he has a good shot but rather seldom uses it. And he'd probably cost a ton.

Don't think that's true. Actually the opposite.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

If that rumor is true, I feel one of Stone or Lazar will not be a Flame this time next week.

I don't think there is a chance the Flames move a defenseman before the end of the season unless it is packaged in a deal for a better defenseman.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by LWcrowfoot

Don't think that's true. Actually the opposite.

Silfverberg has a -4.4% relative Corsi this season and ranks in the league's ninth percentile in shot share. Teams fillet the Ducks when he's on the ice. He's also well-below-average offensively, with just six 5v5 primary points this season

[LWcrowfoot]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I don't think there is a chance the Flames move a defenseman before the end of the season unless it is packaged in a deal for a better defenseman.

Or they have something else lined up? Moving Stone now, especially if you have another depth move lined up would be prudent of Treliving.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

The way some of you still think about Bennett is filled with unjust negativity.

Kent Wilson’s latest article on The Athletic paints a much different picture, and so does Bennett’s play this season. Blinded by some bad years under Gulutzan and an inability to disconnect your draft position expectations from the player he is today and the player he is on track to become?

Do tell.

He has had every chance a young player could ask for....and failed repeatedly. 1st line/2nd line/PP time...and squat.

Also, Bennetts play this season? He is a border line 3rd line winger who, for the 4th consecutive season, is on pace to post offensive numbers that put him right with Brock McGinn, Blake Comeau, and Matt Calvert.

Fancy stats darling or not, he is just a very mediocre/average NHL winger which all teams need of course, but you certainly dont pay big for them.

What is that worth?

Im thinking 1.75 for a 3 year term and if he improves, then they pay him or he walks.

[LWcrowfoot]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Silfverberg has a -4.4% relative Corsi this season and ranks in the league's ninth percentile in shot share. Teams fillet the Ducks when he's on the ice. He's also well-below-average offensively, with just six 5v5 primary points this season

The entire Ducks team, minus Gibson, is a tire fire. Silfverberg has multiple seasons of being a fantastic two-way player. He's a guy you look to to rebound when moved, especially to a contending team.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by LWcrowfoot

The entire Ducks team, minus Gibson, is a tire fire. Silfverberg has multiple seasons of being a fantastic two-way player. He's a guy you look to to rebound when moved, especially to a contending team.

I would also like to see the numbers pointed about by Scorpion beyond just this season. I am not sure what the results would be but I am intrigued.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by LWcrowfoot

The entire Ducks team, minus Gibson, is a tire fire. Silfverberg has multiple seasons of being a fantastic two-way player. He's a guy you look to to rebound when moved, especially to a contending team.

That -4.4% mark was relative to the rest of the Ducks, though. Also, Silfverberg isn't exactly young -- he's 28. He's a very similar player on paper to Frolik, except that Frolik does almost everything better. He's also bound to want a huge contract, meaning that he's likely a one-and-done player here.

His only rather unique attribute is that he shoots right, but guys like Toffoli and Coyle also do that and are signed an extra year.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Do tell.

He has had every chance a young player could ask for....and failed repeatedly. 1st line/2nd line/PP time...and squat.

Also, Bennetts play this season? He is a border line 3rd line winger who, for the 4th consecutive season, is on pace to post offensive numbers that put him right with Brock McGinn, Blake Comeau, and Matt Calvert.

Fancy stats darling or not, he is just a very mediocre/average NHL winger which all teams need of course, but you certainly dont pay big for them.

What is that worth?

Im thinking 1.75 for a 3 year term and if he improves, then they pay him or he walks.

It's getting goofy at this point.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

It's getting goofy at this point.

Nothing he said is wrong though?

[Nelson]

I don't see the Flames moving Stone because I don't think they'll need the cap space.

Next year, the Flames are slated to spend $39,425,000 on forwards, $21,694,209 on defencemen, and 0 on goaltenders.

They probably need to sign 5 forwards including Tkachuk and Bennett, 1 defenceman, and 2 goalies including Rittich.

Based on an $83 million dollar salary cap, they will have $21.880791M to sign those 8 players.
-I'd estimate Tkachuk will cost $7.5M-$8.5M using William Nylander as a comparable.
-If Bennett continues on his current pace, he will likely get $1.5M-$2M using Marcus Sorenson from the Sharks as a comparable.
-David Rittich might get 3 years at $3.75M using Casey DeSmith as a comparable.
That takes the Flames down to approximately $7.630791M for 3 forwards, 1 defenceman and 1 goalie; this assumes Tkachuk and Bennett get the high-end. I'd imagine they'd sign a decent platoon-type goaltender at around 3 and pay around $1M each to fill the other spots.

However, moving Stone's contract could give the Flames more flexibility. Also, a pick might be desirable.

I think it just depends on the return. But they are reportedly looking for depth on defence so I don't know that it makes sense.

[TheIronMaiden]

It is strange to me that some fans are so upset about having a 22 year old player who is on pace for a 30 point season. Obviously it would be nice if he was a world beater, but an affordable 3 line player who brings the heat in contested games is good enough for me.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

It is strange to me that some fans are so upset about having a 22 year old player who is on pace for a 30 point season. Obviously it would be nice if he was a world beater, but an affordable 3 line player who brings the heat in contested games is good enough for me.

Beyond that, we have seen a very different side of Bennett in the playoffs. He could end up being one of those players that fans have sporadic appreciation for during the season, but whom they LOVE in April, May, and June.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

It is strange to me that some fans are so upset about having a 22 year old player who is on pace for a 30 point season. Obviously it would be nice if he was a world beater, but an affordable 3 line player who brings the heat in contested games is good enough for me.

No one should "be upset" at having him or someone like him. Like i said, every team in the league needs a couple or 3 of them. He also has that sandpaper/greasiness to him that I personally love in a player.

Where the problem lies is in what some are suggesting he be paid, and then others suggesting that those who watch him just like they do apply "unjust negativity". Sorry, nothing negative about calling Bennett what he is...average.

When I see suggestions of paying him 3 or more million a year, i cringe. For what earthly reason? Certainly not for what he has shown to this point.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by David Struch

One can dream... a Brodie package for

Taylor Hall
Mark Stone
Brayden Point
David Pastrnak
William Nylander

He said minor deal... No way would Tampa ever trade Point. He's the engine for that team and he's their future. And no way Pastrnak gets moved either.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by transplant99

No one should "be upset" at having him or someone like him. Like i said, every team in the league needs a couple or 3 of them. He also has that sandpaper/greasiness to him that I personally love in a player.

Where the problem lies is in what some are suggesting he be paid, and then others suggesting that those who watch him just like they do apply "unjust negativity". Sorry, nothing negative about calling Bennett what he is...average.

When I see suggestions of paying him 3 or more million a year, i cringe. For what earthly reason? Certainly not for what he has shown to this point.

He has shown himself to be a good player who fans really enjoy watching. The problem is when those players get paid more than they are worth, they quickly become the player who is making second line money while putting up third line points and becomes a whipping boy on the team.

Any contract above 3 million a year will be paying in large part for draft position and unproven potential.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

It is strange to me that some fans are so upset about having a 22 year old player who is on pace for a 30 point season. Obviously it would be nice if he was a world beater, but an affordable 3 line player who brings the heat in contested games is good enough for me.

Especially when he's strong defensively, stands up for his teammates to no end, hits, and just generally works hard. As he continues to develop, more consistency will come into his game and because of that his point total will climb. As a 6/7, he's a very good piece on our team - and he may just continue to climb up the depth chart as things go.

There's no reason to be negative towards Sam Bennett this year other than people's own inability to disconnect themselves from what is now an irrelevant draft position.