It's really impressive that McCain did this all by himself without any help from anyone else and especially any women or protestors. I hope when he's canonized we all remember this glorious moment when he voted against the thing he allowed to happen by not voting against it sooner. O Saint McCain, ye who denied MLK, thank you for saving us in our hour of need.
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I don't know how much this falls on Trump. As stated by many posters above, the GOP has been whining about Obamacare since it's implementation 7 years ago. Trump ran on getting rid of Obamacare and won everything. Presidency, house, and senate. The GOP should have a plan right? They have nothing.
Trump came up with healthcare bill 1. They said no.
Then healthcare bill 2. They said no again.
Then Trump basically said, F-it you guys figure it out. McConnell, find the simplest, easiest loophole in the system to get the ball rolling down the hill.
I don't think Trump really cares about healthcare but this is the GOPs baby so he'll sign anything they come up with. They couldn't even do that!
This is why a LOT of it falls on Trump.
He ran with a campaign saying he would repeal an replace it with something better. He didn't.
And with all due respect, Trump could not figure out the difference between Trumpcare and Obamacare if he had an earpiece with his aides telling him what it was.
He has no idea of what is in these bills. None!
Obama, whether you liked him on not, was actually a very bright guy and had 2hr press conferences where he would answer questions on the ACA plan... Trump? good lord, he's as ignorant as they come when it comes to knowing actual policy.
This is on Trump because he's the President and he could not rally his own party using the bully pulpit to vote for their own damn bill.
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He ran with a campaign saying he would repeal an replace it with something better. He didn't.
And with all due respect, Trump could not figure out the difference between Trumpcare and Obamacare if he had an earpiece with his aides telling him what it was.
He has no idea of what is in these bills. None!
Obama, whether you liked him on not, was actually a very bright guy and had 2hr press conferences where he would answer questions on the ACA plan... Trump? good lord, he's as ignorant as they come when it comes to knowing actual policy.
This is on Trump because he's the President and he could not rally his own party using the bully pulpit to vote for their own damn bill.
I'm not sure anyone could rally the GOP right now. The fact that Trump doesn't care about anything or doesn't know anything, shouldn't that make the GOPs job easier? They can pass anything to make him look good. And he only cares about looking good. He is their puppet!
So to me it's the GOP who are just evil but can't organize. Would it be any different with Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio with this much power? Probably not, the GOP just can't figure it out.
Obamacare is working despite efforts by the GOP to defund and derail it. If Republicans were smart they would try to elicit some tax breaks out of the ACA and some other concessions (which they would no doubt be able to do, possibly with bi-partisan support in many cases) and then they can say -- "hey, we fixed this" but they spent 7 years saying that it was the worst thing to ever happen to the American people. So how can you sell an effort to fix something you've said is the worst thing in American history? They painted themselves into a corner. Many of the folks in the House won their seat on this "promise."
It's all fun and games until the moment you have to cash the check.
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Obamacare is working despite efforts by the GOP to defund and derail it.
Claiming Obamacare is working is a bit of an overstatement. There are very real problems with it.
I had a conversation with someone who runs a US company with which I do business and he gave this perspective.
For example, everyone has to have health insurance but in certain cases do not realize the benefits of the insurance which does not kick in until they reach a certain level of deductible, which can be several thousand dollars. So let's say you incur 4 thousand dollars of health care expenses per year, you have to pay 2 thousand to be covered, and have a deductible of 8 thousand. That does not help that person.
Let's ignore the distractions that are occupying the discourse. The Republican Party is vicious to the lower and middle classes in certain ways and their failure (and more importantly unwillingness) to provide a solution, or steps toward one. is disgraceful.
But unfortunately there is legitimacy to the perspective that Obamacare is not working.
Obama was a well spoken guy, but was still the head of a government with the interests of business far ahead of the interests of the population.
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Claiming Obamacare is working is a bit of an overstatement. There are very real problems with it.
I had a conversation with someone who runs a US company with that which I do business and he gave this perspective.
For example, everyone has to have health insurance but in certain cases do not realize the benefits of the insurance which does not kick in until they reach a certain level of deductible, which can be several thousand dollars. So let's say you incur 4 thousand dollars of health care expenses per year, you have to pay 2 thousand to be covered, and have a deductible of 8 thousand. That does not help that person.
Let's ignore the distractions that are occupying the discourse. The Republican Party is vicious to the lower and middle classes in certain ways and their failure (and more importantly unwillingness) to provide a solution, or steps toward one. is disgraceful.
But unfortunately there is legitimacy to the perspective that Obamacare is not working.
Obama was a well spoken guy, but was still the head of a government with the interests of business far ahead of the interests of the population.
Until this changes, Americans are going to have terrible healthcare options.
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Mikhail Lesin’s battered body was#discovered#in his Dupont Circle hotel room on the morning of November 5, 2015 with#blunt-force injuries#to the head, neck, and torso. After an almost year-long "comprehensive investigation," a federal prosecutor#announced#last October that Lesin died alone in his room due to a series of drunken falls “after days of excessive consumption of alcohol.” His death was ruled an "accident," and prosecutors closed the case.
But the two FBI agents — as well as a third agent and a serving US intelligence officer — said Lesin was actually bludgeoned to death. None of these officials were directly involved in the government’s investigation, but they said they learned about it from colleagues who were.
“Lesin was beaten to death,” one of the FBI agents said. “I would implore you to say as much. There seems to be an effort here to cover up that fact for reasons I can't get into.”
The question becomes why. I think their are likely good national security / diplomacy reasons to cover up Russian spys murdering Russians. So the question becomes whether this is being done at Russia's request (in my opinion unlikely) or as part of typical spy activities
Claiming Obamacare is working is a bit of an overstatement. There are very real problems with it.
I had a conversation with someone who runs a US company with which I do business and he gave this perspective.
For example, everyone has to have health insurance but in certain cases do not realize the benefits of the insurance which does not kick in until they reach a certain level of deductible, which can be several thousand dollars. So let's say you incur 4 thousand dollars of health care expenses per year, you have to pay 2 thousand to be covered, and have a deductible of 8 thousand. That does not help that person.
Let's ignore the distractions that are occupying the discourse. The Republican Party is vicious to the lower and middle classes in certain ways and their failure (and more importantly unwillingness) to provide a solution, or steps toward one. is disgraceful.
But unfortunately there is legitimacy to the perspective that Obamacare is not working.
Obama was a well spoken guy, but was still the head of a government with the interests of business far ahead of the interests of the population.
I think Democrats have been very forthright that Obamacare is not perfect and there are a number of things that can and should be fixed. This includes guy like Schumer who openly stated just that last night in the Senate and Obama and Hillary who both have stated on the record that there are issues.
The fundamental ideological difference that i see is that the further this moves away from single payer the more likely that the premiums go up and that individual markets are threatened.
Insurance works best because the risk is shared by all... this is why the pre-existing conditions was such a major issue... by allowing the youngest and healthiest to opt out or limiting the penalty for not having insurances ends up jacking up premiums for everyone.
the democrats at least want to have universal heathcare. The republicans are more interested in tax cuts for the wealthy.
reductivist I admit, but generally speaking i think its pretty accurate
So let's say you incur 4 thousand dollars of health care expenses per year, you have to pay 2 thousand to be covered, and have a deductible of 8 thousand. That does not help that person.
We often use the term "health insurance," but that concept only applies a very limited part of overall health coverage. Why would any sane insurer allow someone with regular health expenses of $4000/year pay any less than $4000 for coverage? If they do, that's not insurance; it's a gift.
It's fair to argue that basic health needs should be covered equally for everyone, but at that point you're no longer talking about insurance; you're talking about a public health program (as in Canada).
Health insurance is properly the thing that covers unexpected or catastrophic expenses, with premiums consistent with the risk of those events happening. The insurance model, ACA or not, can never be the solution to covering both basic health needs and catastrophic instances.
I hadn't heard of this case previously, but did anybody actually accept at the time that he died of 'falling repeatedly, on his own, alone in his room'? That's about as believable as a man committing suicide via shotgun blast to the back of the head.
GGG's question should have been the one being asked from the moment they closed the investigation.
Claiming Obamacare is working is a bit of an overstatement. There are very real problems with it.
I had a conversation with someone who runs a US company with which I do business and he gave this perspective.
For example, everyone has to have health insurance but in certain cases do not realize the benefits of the insurance which does not kick in until they reach a certain level of deductible, which can be several thousand dollars. So let's say you incur 4 thousand dollars of health care expenses per year, you have to pay 2 thousand to be covered, and have a deductible of 8 thousand. That does not help that person.
Let's ignore the distractions that are occupying the discourse. The Republican Party is vicious to the lower and middle classes in certain ways and their failure (and more importantly unwillingness) to provide a solution, or steps toward one. is disgraceful.
But unfortunately there is legitimacy to the perspective that Obamacare is not working.
Obama was a well spoken guy, but was still the head of a government with the interests of business far ahead of the interests of the population.
Yet it's still drastically better than healthcare pre-ACA, and far better than anything the GOP have come up with.
There are problems, certainly, but most of those issues started with Republican amendments to the original ACA that were intended to hamstring its ability to function properly. (Risk pool funding, increased Medicaid funding, etc)
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If posted previously, my bad. I mean, it's just unbelievable, these people.
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Scaramucci also told me that, unlike other senior officials, he had no interest in media attention. “I’m not Steve Bannon, I’m not trying to suck my own ####,” he said, speaking of Trump’s chief strategist. “I’m not trying to build my own brand off the ####ing strength of the President. I’m here to serve the country.” (Bannon declined to comment.)
I'm not sure anyone could rally the GOP right now. The fact that Trump doesn't care about anything or doesn't know anything, shouldn't that make the GOPs job easier? They can pass anything to make him look good. And he only cares about looking good. He is their puppet!
So to me it's the GOP who are just evil but can't organize. Would it be any different with Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio with this much power? Probably not, the GOP just can't figure it out.
Obamacare is working despite efforts by the GOP to defund and derail it. If Republicans were smart they would try to elicit some tax breaks out of the ACA and some other concessions (which they would no doubt be able to do, possibly with bi-partisan support in many cases) and then they can say -- "hey, we fixed this" but they spent 7 years saying that it was the worst thing to ever happen to the American people. So how can you sell an effort to fix something you've said is the worst thing in American history? They painted themselves into a corner. Many of the folks in the House won their seat on this "promise."
It's all fun and games until the moment you have to cash the check.
They did paint themselves into a corner, and you are right, its easy to hurl insults from the other side of the aisle compared to actually governing.
shouting hypotheticals is fine until the rubber hits the road and these things actually become law and your party owns it
its still Trump's fault: the buck stops at the President... maybe if he was spending the time in the hallways of the Senate two weeks ago and participating in the actually work to craft legislation he could have helped the bill pass... I mean thank god that didn't happen... He felt that golfing was more important that trying to rally his party to get the bill passed.
Trump is the President of the US. So yes, the failure of the bill to pass is also his responsibility...
If you think the bill had passed, he wouldn't be taking the credit for it?! There's a snowball's chance in Hell for him not taking credit...
He praised the "rough" officers of ICE and suggested that police shouldn't protect the heads of suspects when they're arrested.
"When you see these thugs thrown into the back of a paddy wagon. You see them thrown in, rough. I said, 'Please don't be too nice,' " Trump said, mentioning observing the prisoner's heads being shielded. "I said, 'You can take the hand away.' "
The President also noted his longstanding campaign pledge to build a wall along the US border with Mexico.
"We're going to secure our border against illegal entry and we will build the wall, that I can tell you," Trump said, noting that the House on Thursday advanced $1.6 billion for the first wave of construction, though that still has to pass the Senate. "The wall is vital, and vital as a tool for ending the humanitarian disaster brought, and really brought on by drug smugglers and new words we haven't heard too much of, human traffickers."
The wall is vital, and vital as a tool for ending the humanitarian disaster brought, and really brought on by drug smugglers and new words we haven't heard too much of, human traffickers."
WTF? Who are these new words to?
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