NHL 10 Info & Media Thread

[Bibtin Tex]

does ctrl + x work?

[Bibtin Tex]

If you're right clicking in the program WMP then try cutting the actual saved playlists in My Computer.

[dustyanddaflames]

neither have worked, this may be the weirdest thing I have ever taken part in.... what I did end up doing though was just putting specific (away goal) into a playlist and doing it that way.... thanks bibtin for the help!

[Bibtin Tex]

Yeah, I'm not sure what the problem is , I did this a REALLY long time ago, so I can't remember if I had problems myself.

[Otto-matic]

So I'm having some issues uploading the file, filefront seems to stall at 64%. Gonna try another puter tomorrow and see if the problem is on my end.

[flamestalker]

One week.

[dobbles]

Originally Posted by koop

I don't get it. Like you said his faceoffs suck and he has poor defensive stats so if you put him in either position he wouldn't be as effective. Why does it matter what his overall rating is when the result is the same? The overall number is just the average of all of the stats. So a 90 overall defenseman will be better at defense than a 90 overall forward because of their defensive stats. I just don't see any reason for the overall numbers to change based on position.

while i do see your point, i think its important for several reasons. first it would allow people to easily see which position a guy was best at. you wouldn't have to go in and figure out if the faceoff rating or defensive awareness was a help/hindrance. it would allow users to maximize their players talents. additionally, the CPU seems to pretty much rely exclusively on overall ratings when simulating. that makes their accuracy important. maybe jobo knows more about this, but when simming in dynasty mode, you always see lines do well where the overall ratings are high. it never seems to matter if the line has 3 playmakers or 3 snipers or anything,

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by dobbles

while i do see your point, i think its important for several reasons. first it would allow people to easily see which position a guy was best at. you wouldn't have to go in and figure out if the faceoff rating or defensive awareness was a help/hindrance. it would allow users to maximize their players talents. additionally, the CPU seems to pretty much rely exclusively on overall ratings when simulating. that makes their accuracy important. maybe jobo knows more about this, but when simming in dynasty mode, you always see lines do well where the overall ratings are high. it never seems to matter if the line has 3 playmakers or 3 snipers or anything,

This is something I've been adovating for EA to change the overall rating system. It's why defensive players don't necessarily get 90's. Also I feel overall should be judge by player type, to give more respect to utility role type players.

But on top of all that, I think the game needs more ratings in general.

[FlamingInfinity]

Originally Posted by Joborule

This is something I've been adovating for EA to change the overall rating system. It's why defensive players don't necessarily get 90's. Also I feel overall should be judge by player type, to give more respect to utility role type players.

But on top of all that, I think the game needs more ratings in general.

The only thing that could possibly stand in the way is the way that the marquee players stand out? How would one Ovechkin, Iginla, or Niedermayer be better than a Shane O'Brien, or Stephane Yelle if they were rated the same, in terms of position. It would go and show the other side of hockey, much like they're doing this year with the grinders and fighters (Why else would Stortini be called in?).

I understand your argument, but the fact is that the names sell. This gives us hardcore fans something else to look for when fantasy drafting, because we know the grittier players.

[dobbles]

and actually i want to whine about a somewhat different area.... why are almost all players rated the same? there is really no darn difference in players...

you have a few marquee stars that are rated in the 90's (crosby, malkin, ovechkin) and then pretty much the entire rest of the nhl is rated btween about 78 and 90. so you have a whole 12 points that seperate adam pardy from nick lidstrom???? (nothing against pardy btw, loved him in the qc)

i think the game needs to have a much bigger skill differential. i know in the videos that it was stated that crappy players can't pull off slick dekes and stuff, so lets really emphasize that... if you go to nhl94.com you can look at all the rosters for that game. i just did a quick check of the ducks, and stu grimson was rated 37!!!!! while that number may be somewhat embarrassing, at least they were using the whole rating scale... it makes no sense to have a scale of 0-100 when 99% of the players are rated between 75-90...

/end rant

[Human Torch]

Originally Posted by dobbles

it makes no sense to have a scale of 0-100 when 99% of the players are rated between 75-90...

/end rant

Well, if you're below 70 you shouldn't be in the NHL.

[dobbles]

Originally Posted by Human Torch

Well, if you're below 70 you shouldn't be in the NHL.

i think that is the wrong way of looking at things. a player's rating should be an arbitrary way of recreating the skill differences for the game. there is a difference between how crosby plays and how aki seitsonen plays. and i think currently, they try to mash everyone's ratings so close that its really hard to tell the difference.

and i do think its kind of a pride thing... they don't want to hurt anyones feelings or offend fans because a certain player is rated low. so they just kind of pull everyone up together.

i just wish there was a better way of making players play different. because really there's not much difference between any of them. like i said, i think they are going in the right direction by having less skilled players not have the ability to do whatever, but i think it still has a long way to go. they have been putting out these games for over 15 years, and yet when i am playing, there is no difference in what i can do with eric godard and evgini malkin. this should have been addressed long ago.

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by Human Torch

Well, if you're below 70 you shouldn't be in the NHL.

Shouldnt yes... but sometimes in Dynasty, you have to bring someone up because of injuries.

Hense, having Stu Grimson on your team @ 37, you wouldnt want your 4th line out that much. Or in Edmonton's case, he would bbe a top 6. (i know he played for Anaheim)

[Russic]

I'm actually getting close to finishing batman. My goal was to have it completed before next week so I could focus on NHL fully.

[dobbles]

Originally Posted by Russic

I'm actually getting close to finishing batman. My goal was to have it completed before next week so I could focus on NHL fully.

way to keep your pregnant wife high on the list!

[Finny61]

It's all good he'll have a tv in the doghouse if he's prepared. I bought one the day after I got married.

[Crispy's Critter]

I think the biggest problem in the overall ratings is that the individual ratings are equal. By that I mean that if you have 2 players with basically the same ratings numbers, but one has huge numbers on the defensive side but low numbers on the offensive side, whereas the other player is the opposite, with high offensive numbers and low defensive ones, in the end their overall ratings will be the same. They seem to be making the difference in playmaking/scoring abilities between lower and higher offensive numbers to have a higher gap between them than before, but not sure if it's quite enough. If they could somehow make it so the offensive numbers were worth more in the overall rating you might see more of a difference in players. Sort of like how sometimes when you took an exam in school, and one question might be worth 10% of the overall score, with the rest combined worth the other 90%. (just as an example)

Also I think the rating system is different now. In the old games it seemed that a player rated around 40 or so would be a bubble player, with the stars in the high 90's, now it seems the bubble players are the guys rated 70-75, with the stars still in the 90's, so the gap between lower and higher end players is lessened. Not sure if I'm explaining this right, but it's almost like in the old days they said 'ok, Gretzky is the standard, everyone else is rated on how they compare to him', whereas now they just use individual ratings, which can be somewhat subjective. (think I got my idea across with that, not sure)

[jeremywilhelm]

I find it annoying that having players with good defensive skills (80+) on the third and 4th lines still end up being a minus after a simmed year. Even with the first and second line players being +40. The simming is really lame in nhl09. I mean, Tomas Vanek regularly scores 60 plus goals and 120+ points every year. No matter what.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by FlamingInfinity

The only thing that could possibly stand in the way is the way that the marquee players stand out? How would one Ovechkin, Iginla, or Niedermayer be better than a Shane O'Brien, or Stephane Yelle if they were rated the same, in terms of position. It would go and show the other side of hockey, much like they're doing this year with the grinders and fighters (Why else would Stortini be called in?).

I understand your argument, but the fact is that the names sell. This gives us hardcore fans something else to look for when fantasy drafting, because we know the grittier players.

I think your misinterpreting what I'm saying, but I also implied something I didn't mean. Marquee players would stand out even more. Iginla, Ovechkin, Crosby would still be rated high, but allow defenders to get 90 ratings because it focuses more on there defensive ability and have less emphasis on offensive skills ability. Meanwhile utility players shouldn't be getting rated that high still, but have value to get more respectable ratings due to their role not being scoring primarly. So if a player is a good grinder with good faceoff ability, but crap for scoring, they can still be rated mid to high 70s.

FYI I should be getting the game tomorrow so if you have any questions pop them by.

[Human Torch]

Originally Posted by Joborule

FYI I should be getting the game tomorrow so if you have any questions pop them by.

FYI dam you