[Signing] Flames sign Huberdeau to long term extension (8 yrs, $10.5 mil AAV)

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by shutout

Which I am surprised that the 7th year has such a high bonus.
Trend looked like it was going to be decreasing at the end but that 7th year it kicks back up.
Would have been nicer to have it lower so that there would still be some buyout opportunity if the deal does not age well.

A silver lining to bonuses is that they could help facilitate a dump to cash strapped team after the bonus is paid...or routing through a 3rd team for cap retention.

He'll be due $11.5M over the final 2 years after that bonus is paid.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Just wait until they extend Weegar too.

Imagine telling someone a month ago that Treliving was going to trade Tkachuk for Huberdeau, Weegar, Schwindt and a 1st in the trade spec thread.

You'd have been laughed off the board.

"Zito laughs and hangs up the phone" LULZ

You know, some posters here think as long as the player is here, he is not worth a bag of pucks. But as long as he is traded to other team, he immediately became the second coming.

[bdubbs]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Why do NHL highlights packages only ever show the player scoring goals? Most of those were pretty easy goals from in close. Where are the playmaking and passing highlights?

Agree wholeheartedly! He just had the most assists by a left winger in NHL history with 85 of them and I cannot find a single highlight video that shows even half or a quarter of them.

I'm spoiled by AC.

Cant wait for the 2022/2023 Jonathan Huberdeau Highlights by AC, part 1, 2, and 3.

[aaronkarlpatton]

Originally Posted by DionTheDman

I came. I saw. I came.

I literally laughed out loud at this one.

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[Dragomir]

This is a great deal for the Flames, I don't even see why people are being negative if you want to sign superstar players you gotta pay up even in their mid-late 30's

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by shutout

Which I am surprised that the 7th year has such a high bonus.
Trend looked like it was going to be decreasing at the end but that 7th year it kicks back up.
Would have been nicer to have it lower so that there would still be some buyout opportunity if the deal does not age well.

It's so after getting the bonus paid, he could be more easily moved.

[Moneyhands23]

I wonder about Tarasenko. Could there be a move out of Monahan and looch then a trade and sign of Tarasenko.

But hey...iv had 4 vodkas and a few pipe falls.

[psyang]

Originally Posted by bdubbs

Agree wholeheartedly! He just had the most assists by a left winger in NHL history with 85 of them and I cannot find a single highlight video that shows even half or a quarter of them.

I'm spoiled by AC.

Cant wait for the 2022/2023 Jonathan Huberdeau Highlights by AC, part 1, 2, and 3.

Yeah, AC has us used to a certain standard. That video had terrible transitions too, several of them starting before the highlight was complete. Ugh.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Scooter

Everyone on the list + Point showed up in the winning Stanley Cup playoff years. Huby a no show in this years playoffs. Contract will be justified when he does something in the post season!

Just curious, did Tkachuk had a "yes" show in this year's playoff?

[Northendzone]

Can’t say I love the term, but he likely would have have got 7 yrs in the open market.

I am a little surprised that he agreed to an 8 yr deal to be here considering he has yet to live here, but he also knows he can likely ask for a deal if his family does not like it here.

Kudos to brad as he has been able to remake the team after being dealt a couple of body blows.

[calgarywinning]

I thought AAV a little high, but when you take time to think it's a great job by Brad Treliving.

a) Huberdeau signs in Calgary. He's Canadian. I really appreciate him for doing that!
b) Franchise and team direction makes a full rebound by these moves with some decent cap space coming up on the horizon. Who isn't going to want to play with this playmaker??
c) Johnny Gaudreau has to be having some concerns as regardless of where you fall on the fence, he tarnished his reputation here and left a lot of money on the table. All Bias aside; Huberdeau is a stunning player who is larger and gives us a much needed edge in the playoffs.
d) I agree with FAN960 that our window is more limited so securing that for now is great. That is why Huberdeau is a better fit for us now. While I will always say, it's been a true please to watch Johnny do some of the unreal things he did.
e) Tcachuk lands in a tax haven, with great weather but a significantly weakened team in many's opinion.

What an amazing time to be a fan!

[Monahammer]

Something not mentioned (that I have seen) but Huberdeau has captained a memorial cup winning team in the past. This is a leader and a winner.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

I wonder about Tarasenko. Could there be a move out of Monahan and looch then a trade and sign of Tarasenko.

But hey...iv had 4 vodkas and a few pipe falls.

Looch could be moved, as long as it's to a team he likes.

Monny would be very expensive to move.

[Redlan]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

I think when you lose two 100+ points players in the same off-season, a rebuild is a reasonable consideration.
Would a rebuild be preferable? Had ownership gone scorched earth, 50% salary retained trades of several players may have paid huge dividends.

Whichever strategy allows the Flames to truly contend for the cup (and not just for the playoffs) is preferable to me. So now that the course is set, Treliving still has a lot of work to, and I am excited to see how it turns out!

Thanks, good answer and provides the context that I was missing. On the surface it makes sense but the return of a 100+ point forward and a top pairing defenseman for Tkachuk really change the dynamics of the Flames and considering Gaudreau's and Tkachuk's results as leaders with the Flames maybe it was best to move on from them and start in a new direction. I too am excited to see how it turns out.

I just never like the scorched earth rebuild scenario, I don't think it is an actual reasonable solution. There are a lot of luck involved that you have no control over and if I am not mistaken, from those who wanted to go down this path, it involves getting multiple 1st-4th...or 1st-3rd overall draft picks over a number of years.

Since Buffalo and Edmonton are too easy, I will use Florida as an example. A number of times they have had a series of high drafts so I will use the most recent; 2010 - Gudbranson (3rd OA plus 2 other 1st round picks Bjugstad and Howden), 2011 - Huberdeau (3rd OA), 2013 -Barkov (2nd OA), 2014 - Ekblad (1st OA). So 2010 was when they shipped out Horton and Campbell for Wideman and a 1st round and a 3rd round and Ballard and Oreskovich for Bernier, Grabner and a 1st. They also had 3 - 2nd RP in 2010, 2 - 2nd and 4-3rd RP's in 2014. I really can not argue with the draft picks, none of them were off the board picks at the time. So they sent out some decent pieces got numerous 1st to 3rd round picks and have 1 successful season to show for it.

I like this example because Florida was a great team last season but one could argue could take a step back and finish with 15 to 20 points back from last year. In the past 10 years they have made the playoffs 4 times (or 5 times in the last 12 going back to the 2010 draft). But are they a shoo-in to win the Stanley Cup next year or the year after? Are they even a favorite in the East?

[Robbob]

Cap hit doesn't bother me. I think once the pandemic payback is done, the cap will start to go up more than the 1M a year it currently is. Seattle has been added and I don't think the NHL has seen a full 32 revenue year yet.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

we have seen in Calgary first hand that sometimes you can have a good core of players that just can't get the job done in the playoffs.

Just because they didn't doesn't mean they couldn't have. Erick Estrada, please listen to Erick Estrada.

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Very few teams have year over year success in the playoffs as most have to fail several times before they break through like the Avalanche did this season, Blues a few seasons back, Capitals before them, etc. It's all about getting into the playoffs annually which is half the battle and for that to happen you need guys that produce in the regular season.

[Scary Eloranta]

This seems like long term pain for short term gain I guess. At least the Flames aren't being wishy-washy and putting an exclamation mark on the statement: we want to win now! And I guess we're officially out of Kadri territory now. Man this team really needs a massive bounce back by Monahan.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Scary Eloranta

This seems like long term pain for short term gain I guess. At least the Flames aren't being wishy-washy and putting an exclamation mark on the statement: we want to win now! And I guess we're officially out of Kadri territory now. Man this team really needs a massive bounce back by Monahan.

Nope, but they'd have to move Lucic or Monahan.

[Sr. Mints]

Originally Posted by Toonage

What in the blue hell is going on there? The guy looks like he's still dancing in front of the fire as he tries to put it out? Intentionally set himself a blaze? Then the lady runs by him to grab a drape either to try and put out the fire (good luck there) or to save the drape (I get she wants to stop the fire from spreading. I think.)

This is why you don't dance with sparklers.

The guy's hammered, and I cut the original down in length when making the gif. Here's the original: "Making Lemonade," and all that.

[joejoe3]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Tkachuk didn’t want to be here anymore. We have to move on

exactly this.

People need to remember, we traded Tkachuk to get Huberdeau, but Huberdeau is here to replace Gaudreau's production as a playmaker.

Huberdeau got the same contract that was offer to Gaudreau, so we are really missing the Tkachuk replacement.
Stop comparing Tkachuk to Huberdeau, but Gaudreau to Huberdeau and things become more clear.