05-27-2022, 07:55 AM
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#681
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by DJones
Hanifin was pretty easily our best defender this series.
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What?
Tanev was our best defender in this series, despite the game 4 PP goal against.
Then Gudbranson, despite the lack of overall talent he played nearly mistake-free playoff hockey. He got burned a few times by elite individual efforts, but that was on Sutter for not sheltering his third pair better.
Then Kylington, despite the game 4 rebound winner against. Once his partner quality went up he was absolutely dynamic in shutting McDrai down almost every shift against. Even when McDavid did beat him he was mostly kept to the outside. He had some misplays with the puck or his skates (probably not untelated to his injury way back againdt Minnesota in February) but he also made a ton of great plays in all three zones. He was clearly the most talented defenseman on the ice for either team.
Then Stone despite his limitations. He was kind of put in a situation to fail with the Tanev injury, but he was a perfect bottom pairing guy and his offensive impact was immediate.
Then Andersson, but at least his limitations were due to being unable to match against a pair of truly elite talent.
Then Zadorov. Footspeed was the biggest issue, and he got burned by McDavid in game 2 in particular. But overall he did his job competently as a #6D
Hanifin was, by far, the worst defender in that series. He made so many mind-numbing plays, without the puck, with the puck, in the offensive zone, in the defensive zone, in the neutral zone. He had one good shift on the PP in game 4, but he had no business being in PP1 in the first place.
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05-27-2022, 07:55 AM
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#682
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Berlin, Germany
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Pretty crushed. Onto next season. GFG. Everything I fear that would happen against the Oilers did. in the most soul-crushingly awful way. I'm usually quite pessimistic but held the faith this time around. This one hurts. A lot. My apartment did not wake up any Berliners this morning. And that is a crying shame.
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05-27-2022, 07:58 AM
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#683
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Kelowna
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Glad I'm not one of the players, because losing to my biggest rival in the first playoff series between the 2 teams in 3 decades in such embarassing and limp fashion would probably force me to retire out of shame.
Hope they have fun golfing, guess the prospect of good weather this weekend was just too much to pass up
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05-27-2022, 07:58 AM
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#684
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#1 Goaltender
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Hard to make an argument that the Flames should have moved on to the next round. Like Sutter said, Edmonton was a little bit better. Markstrom wasn't good but neither was Smith and overall it felt like Edmonton controlled the pace after game 1. Focusing on one wrong call is just losing sight of the bigger picture.
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05-27-2022, 08:01 AM
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#685
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DJones
Hanifin was pretty easily our best defender this series.
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You forgot the green text.
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05-27-2022, 08:02 AM
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#686
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Saqe
Hard to make an argument that the Flames should have moved on to the next round. Like Sutter said, Edmonton was a little bit better. Markstrom wasn't good but neither was Smith and overall it felt like Edmonton controlled the pace after game 1. Focusing on one wrong call is just losing sight of the bigger picture.
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That one wrong call was the game winning goal that could have turned things around in the series. My focus right now is trying to understand how we were not deliberately ####ed by the NHL.
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05-27-2022, 08:04 AM
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#687
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: North of the River, South of the Bluff
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Originally Posted by bigpete
Woodcroft: Ya we were pretty confident when they were reviewing it that the goal would be called back.
Ya right you howdy doody prick, you f###ing liar, everyone and their dog assumed that it was going to be a good goal.
I saw the review a bunch of times while it was under review. I was not nervous a bit because it seemed like such an easy obvious call.
Unbelievable. Just an atrocious call, simply awful.
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Woodcroft is starting to believe his own legend. Talking about moving the chess pieces around. You play McDavid and Dri 28mins plus a night. What a mega genius.
Also taking credit for a critical challenge he didn’t even make.
Good luck next round Bowman v2.0
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05-27-2022, 08:06 AM
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#688
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Deep South
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That no goal call was complete bull####. Cost us the game, but not likely the series.
I think the NHL has a big problem. The media darlings aren't really anything new, but the league is also all-in with gambling now. Between the two, I don't think there will be much integrity in the game.
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05-27-2022, 08:07 AM
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#689
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Franchise Player
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Woodcraft is a smug POS who is about to get stomped in Round 3. Not even the Dear League will be able to get McDavid any further.
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05-27-2022, 08:09 AM
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#690
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
That one wrong call was the game winning goal that could have turned things around in the series. My focus right now is trying to understand how we were not deliberately ####ed by the NHL.
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Edmonton scored at will in this series, you have no idea if that would've been the game winning goal even if they had accepted it. Plus, the Flames would have needed to win the next two games too. The series was close but overall Edmonton was better by a slight margin. The world isn't out to get the Flames.
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05-27-2022, 08:10 AM
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#691
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saqe
Edmonton scored at will in this series, you have no idea if that would've been the game winning goal even if they had accepted it. Plus, the Flames would have needed to win the next two games too. The series was close but overall Edmonton was better by a slight margin. The world isn't out to get the Flames.
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The world no. NHL yes and you will not convince me otherwise. The fix was in.
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05-27-2022, 08:11 AM
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#692
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saqe
Hard to make an argument that the Flames should have moved on to the next round. Like Sutter said, Edmonton was a little bit better. Markstrom wasn't good but neither was Smith and overall it felt like Edmonton controlled the pace after game 1. Focusing on one wrong call is just losing sight of the bigger picture.
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The series turned in game 1 when the Flames were having their way with Edmonton and Markstrom had one of the worst goaltending performances you will see. That completely shifted the series, giving the Oilers a ton of confidence and rattling the admittedly mentally weak Flames.
For whatever reason Sutter refused to make any changes this series, be it in net or in line deployment. That might be the most disappointing part of this loss. He was here to have experience and guide the Flames through their troubles. Instead he seemingly did nothing.
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05-27-2022, 08:12 AM
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#693
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
No way you get a passing rate when you are worse than Mike Smith
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He wasn't though. Smith gave up way worse goals than Markstrom. There were just way less quality chances. Take last night. Not a single goal on Markstrom was bad. 3 on Smith were counting the disallowed goal.
Look at the game before. Markstrom had a puckhandling error - I've seen that hundreds of times from goalies. Smith let in one from the opposite blue line. I've seen that maybe a couple times in my life. Game three? Yeah Smith was better. Game two? Nah. Game one? Certainly not.
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05-27-2022, 08:12 AM
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#694
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
The world no. NHL yes and you will not convince me otherwise. The fix was in.
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If there was a fix then you must be assuming the Flames were in on it as well given their play in this series which was easily the worst five game stretch of the entire season.
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05-27-2022, 08:13 AM
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#695
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saqe
Eyou have no idea if that would've been the game winning goal even if they had accepted it.
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And that's the thing, we'll never know. Because the league took that chance away by making a ballsy call in an elimination game.
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05-27-2022, 08:16 AM
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#696
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Calgary
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Flames are proving to be the Cleveland Browns of the NHL
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05-27-2022, 08:18 AM
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#697
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#1 Goaltender
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The fact that not a single person watching the game live or on
TV thought that wasn't a goal proves we got screwed. Not the Flames fans, not the Oilers fans, not the pbp, not the players on the benches, not Mike Smith, not the refs, no one... Except the clown show in TO watching on their screens. Absolutely embarassing NHL.
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05-27-2022, 08:18 AM
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#698
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Flames had to have allowed to most high danger scoring chances in the second round right? I don’t know how to find that.
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2022 Playoffs HDCA:
1. Rangers - 173
2. Oilers - 125
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5. Flames - 94
So yes, not a great time for the defense to forget how to limit chances. Calgary was 4th lowest in the regular season.
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05-27-2022, 08:19 AM
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#700
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1_Flames_Fan
The fact that not a single person watching the game live or on
TV thought that wasn't a goal proves we got screwed. Not the Flames fans, not the Oilers fans, not the pbp, not the players on the benches, not Mike Smith, not the refs, no one... Except the clown show in TO watching on their screens. Absolutely embarassing NHL.
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Half the CBC panel, but their points were so dumb you'd almost think they were assigned the devil's advocate role.
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