04-15-2022, 03:40 PM
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#681
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CP Gamemaster
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: The Gary
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Independent review finds that it was a miscommunication problem rather than a systemic or individual fault as to why Beach's case fell through the cracks of the NHLPA
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"We've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong. Just a little oops!"
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04-15-2022, 06:00 PM
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#682
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Miscommunication/misunderstanding in this case IS absolutely a systemic failure.
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04-15-2022, 06:03 PM
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#683
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Franchise Player
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So nobody is going to own the miscommunication?
Seems like such a typical hockey play……
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04-15-2022, 06:05 PM
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#684
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Like, the phone call dropped or…?
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04-15-2022, 07:01 PM
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#685
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Some push back, including from Elliotte Friedman:
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One of the biggest differences between the Chicago Blackhawks’ Block & Jenner report and this NHLPA version (commissioned to the law firm Cozen O’Connor) is the testimony of Dr. Brian Shaw.
Shaw, a program administrator for the NHL/NHLPA Player Assistance Program, told Blackhawk investigators he had no records or recollection of meeting with Beach.
This time around, it is different.
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"Specifically, Dr. Shaw remembered that Beach said he had not gone to the police, but had reported the assault within the Blackhawks organization. Dr. Shaw recalled that Beach wanted ‘someone’ to contact USA Hockey and tell them what he had experienced; Beach was concerned that USA Hockey needed to know about it because he had learned that Aldrich was now working there. Dr. Shaw explained that Beach was very upset during this conversation; accordingly, Dr. Shaw sought to reassure him by telling him words to the effect that ‘someone’ or ‘they’ would ‘handle’ or ‘take care of’ contacting USA Hockey. Dr. Shaw also emphasized that he asked several times whether Beach wanted a referral for treatment or therapy, and that each time Beach declined that offer.
"Accordingly, Dr. Shaw never opened a file for Beach. Dr. Shaw explained to us that he assumed that either Gurney or someone at the NHLPA would be the one to ‘handle’ contacting USA Hockey. He offered assurances to Beach that he was sure USA Hockey would be contacted only to address Beach’s obvious distress about getting the word out about Aldrich. But he never believed that he was offering to be the person to contact USA Hockey about Aldrich on Beach’s behalf, nor did he think that he made such a suggestion to Beach. Indeed, Dr. Shaw observed to us that he does not know anyone affiliated with USA Hockey.”
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There is dispute between Fehr, agent Ross Gurney (who represented Beach) and agent Joe Resnick (who formerly represented Black Ace 1). Some of it is hard to believe, quite frankly. I certainly have my suspicions, but that’s “he said, she said,” and difficult to prove.
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https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article...-beach-report/
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04-15-2022, 07:46 PM
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#686
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Franchise Player
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From the report:
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we did identify an email from Fehr in 2021 where, in response to initial requests for documents and information from Beach’s lawyer, he observed that he “[didn’t] recall
anything about this” but did “have a memory of something related to sexual or other abuse in
Chicago’s organization.”31 When asked what that email referred to,Fehr told us that he did not
know and does not recall anything on the subject beyond what he described in the email. He
stated: “I don’t remember anything more than something nagging at the back of my mind, but I
don’t know what it is.”
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Gross. Doesn't pass the smell test.
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04-16-2022, 01:13 PM
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#687
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Calgary, Canada
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I find the reports findings to be absolutely laughable with regards to the lack of accountability. A lot of "I don't recall, I thought so and so was going to look after it. I did my part, somebody else dropped the ball"
Bottom line is a sexual crime was committed here by an employee of a top tier sports organization. The victim happened to be a physical fit and strong male which may skew some people's perception. I will admit when I first heard this I thought it may have been overplayed or some minor transgression but when I read what actually happened, I was stunned.
The lack of actual pushback to that BS report from credible journalist's, insiders and within the general NHL community is still stunning. I would appreciate a little more honesty and just have the top dogs at the NHL, the players and the NHLPA just flat out and say that we don't want to kill the money goose rather than subject the general public to this charade of investigations and accountability with promises to do better.
Way too many people knew and this should have been reported to the police. There is an issue of failure to do that across the board and that includes people who are close to the victim in this case. Sometimes I think people are ill served by people who they are close to for fear of getting it wrong and than it costing money, opportunity or reputation.
Brutal across the board.
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04-16-2022, 03:56 PM
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#688
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Franchise Player
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I will preface what I’m about to say with an acknowledgement that it is Very much beside the point.
Kyle Beach was an 11th overall draft pick.
What sort of tom####ery has to be afoot for an organization to side with the VIDEO COACH over the 11th overall pick 18 months ago?
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