I actually emailed an Inuit organization about the term "Eskimo" and if it should be avoided, and after a bit of a discussion, the respondent's opinion was that while it isn't a hateful word, it should be avoided in most situations.
Basically, he said that the word is equal to the word "Indian" when talking about First Nations people. It's not a word from the Inuit language, it was applied by colonialists and it doesn't describe their culture or who they are. He did acknowledge that "Eskimo" does not carry all the negative stereotypes that the word "Indian" has been burdened with.
So, I've gone on record here saying that I personally don't think the term "Indian" is offensive (I know, I'm not aboriginal so what I find offensive doesn't matter), that is to say the Cleveland Indians name isn't offensive but their mascot is very offensive. If the Edmonton Eskimos logo was this I think we'd have a problem.:
So, I've gone on record here saying that I personally don't think the term "Indian" is offensive (I know, I'm not aboriginal so what I find offensive doesn't matter), that is to say the Cleveland Indians name isn't offensive but their mascot is very offensive. If the Edmonton Eskimos logo was this I think we'd have a problem.:
It is just purely based on the arrogance that the name derives from. I could explain, but no one highlights the idiocy of the name better than Louie:
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So, I've gone on record here saying that I personally don't think the term "Indian" is offensive (I know, I'm not aboriginal so what I find offensive doesn't matter), that is to say the Cleveland Indians name isn't offensive but their mascot is very offensive. If the Edmonton Eskimos logo was this I think we'd have a problem.:
OK. Out of curiosity do you consider all ethnic cartoony characterizations offensive?
I personally have no issue with either, but I would understand if someone did. I believe it is a sign of civilized culture to be respectful of others.
As an individual who identifies as "right wing" I find a some of insinuations in this thread derogatory and offensive. Being politically conservative does not in any way make me prone to racism. (this last being directed at the thread in general not Coporatejay)
I find the entire topic to be mildly frustrating as it obviously garners a lot of interest and attention, and it seems to myself that there are so many greater injustices deserving debate. I also feel I cannot justly dismiss this topic as having little importance as I am not part of an interested party by ethnic group or team affiliation.
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As an individual who identifies as "right wing" I find a some of insinuations in this thread derogatory and offensive. Being politically conservative does not in any way make me prone to racism. (this last being directed at the thread in general not Coporatejay)
I think it's the other way around. Racists are prone to being politically conservative.
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Ha ha... Great segment. Just change the name already. It's not going to affect your fans (they'll cheer for you regardless) but would be the right thing to do.
So are people going to refuse to refer to the venue of tonight's football game as Arrowhead stadium, and just call the Chiefs Kansas City football?
I personally don't feel that those two are offensive terms like Red Skins could be considered, or even Indians. But it is using native American imagery for sports.
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So are people going to refuse to refer to the venue of tonight's football game as Arrowhead stadium, and just call the Chiefs Kansas City football?
I personally don't feel that those two are offensive terms like Red Skins could be considered, or even Indians. But it is using native American imagery for sports.
I personally think that "Red Skins" stands alone for being abhorrent. Chief Wahoo is disrespectful, but not quite as nasty IMO.
As for the term "chiefs" and "arrowhead", I think it can be argued that those images are fairly generic. Personally, I don't find them disrespectful on their own (both are concepts and things found pretty much globally).
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Nah, Chief Wahoo - much as I love that logo - is every bit as bad as the Redskins name. Unlike the Redskins though, the Indians are phasing the logo out.
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So are people going to refuse to refer to the venue of tonight's football game as Arrowhead stadium, and just call the Chiefs Kansas City football?
I personally don't feel that those two are offensive terms like Red Skins could be considered, or even Indians. But it is using native American imagery for sports.
Didn't know the Chiefs still used the "tomahawk chop" during their games. Even the Atlanta Brave phased that out.
So are people going to refuse to refer to the venue of tonight's football game as Arrowhead stadium, and just call the Chiefs Kansas City football?
I personally don't feel that those two are offensive terms like Red Skins could be considered, or even Indians. But it is using native American imagery for sports.
How is Arrowhead offensive?
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So are people going to refuse to refer to the venue of tonight's football game as Arrowhead stadium, and just call the Chiefs Kansas City football?
I personally don't feel that those two are offensive terms like Red Skins could be considered, or even Indians. But it is using native American imagery for sports.
Other teams have been discussed a lot in these threads (not sure if this one specifically). I think Chiefs can be ok, but I think where they tread the line (from what I've heard) is when the fans are wearing the headdresses and things of that nature.
Other teams have been discussed a lot in these threads (not sure if this one specifically). I think Chiefs can be ok, but I think where they tread the line (from what I've heard) is when the fans are wearing the headdresses and things of that nature.
I think the use of Chiefs by KC is easier to understand and accept than:
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Other teams have been discussed a lot in these threads (not sure if this one specifically). I think Chiefs can be ok, but I think where they tread the line (from what I've heard) is when the fans are wearing the headdresses and things of that nature.
I noticed more headdresses at the Monday night game than I have ever seen. Not sure if I'm more sensitive to it now and noticing it more, or if fans are wearing it as an FU to the recent articles about how insensitive it is.
Still where is the line between freedom of expression and being insensitive? Is dressing like any other cultrure other than your own wrong? If a person of African decent is wearing lederhosen at October Fest, are they being insensitive? Or are they just having fun?
I noticed more headdresses at the Monday night game than I have ever seen. Not sure if I'm more sensitive to it now and noticing it more, or if fans are wearing it as an FU to the recent articles about how insensitive it is.
Still where is the line between freedom of expression and being insensitive? Is dressing like any other cultrure other than your own wrong? If a person of African decent is wearing lederhosen at October Fest, are they being insensitive? Or are they just having fun?
If people of African decent had a long history of subjugating Bavarians ... then it might be. It's not a hard line of "Person not from culture using that culture's imagery".
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I noticed more headdresses at the Monday night game than I have ever seen. Not sure if I'm more sensitive to it now and noticing it more, or if fans are wearing it as an FU to the recent articles about how insensitive it is.
Still where is the line between freedom of expression and being insensitive? Is dressing like any other cultrure other than your own wrong? If a person of African decent is wearing lederhosen at October Fest, are they being insensitive? Or are they just having fun?
The thing with headdresses is that from what I understand, they are considered regalia and it is insulting when they are degraded into being a "costume".
To be honest, I am not sure that I quite understand how it makes aboriginal people feel as it is difficult to apply the same thing to my culture. Sure we have traditional clothing and dances, but they aren't really exploited in the same way.
I just trust the fact that they are insulted by it and no further explanation or defense from aboriginals is really needed IMO.
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