2021/2022 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[PegCityFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Just reading an article here that listed 6 targets for CGY not named Kane.
1. Christian Fischer
2. Barret Hayton
3. Dominik Kubalik
4. Jack Roslovic
5. Zack Sanford
6. Rasmus Ristolainen

3 of the 5 are RFA RHS RW. 1 is a center.

I think I'd try to get both Hayton and Fischer in one deal.
Then double down on Roslovic.

Unless you're giving Roslovic top 6 minutes he won't be happy.

[Monahammer]

I dont want Kane, but that list of players makes me want to consider Kane more.

[Vinny01]

End of the day it doesn’t matter if the Flames want Kane he won’t come here. I can’t see him looking at Backlund, Monahan, Dube and Sutter and think this is the right team for him. Look north he will get to play with McDavid or Draisaitl and it appears star players get the special treatment up there so they make a lot more sense.

Also Lebrun mentioned Tampa and Florida are also in the mix. I think if Florida or Tampa make the right offer he will go there way before Edmonton. 2 better teams in a place where he can lay low and where Covid restrictions are basically nil


Edit: I just heard on Marek that Tampa is out but Florida is in the mix

[Saqe]

Kane and Florida, what could go wrong.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Kane and Florida, what could go wrong.

It’s interesting. I think Florida taking on Kane is more of a risk to them because they are doing so well and seem to have a good group… Kane could disrupt that. The oilers on the other hand are already a disaster so their management probably think there’s nothing to lose at this point by taking on Kane.

Overall though, Florida is probably the better fit for him. For one thing, Kane would likely prefer to stay in the states where the COVID rules are much less strict. Also, he won’t be depended upon to save the Panthers - they don’t need saving - so there will be less pressure on him. And a decent playoff performance could help him get a new NHL contract with someone in the summer.

I think the oilers are going to continue to struggle with or without Kane so him being there is likely to just be another distraction in the room. The only fit for Kane in Edmonton is the promise that every player gets when they sign with Edmonton - that he can play with McDavid to pad his stats so that he gets a good contract next year. Of course, once he’s there, he’ll likely find himself dropping down the line up and losing minutes the moment the oilers get behind in games (which happens all the time) and they just decide to play McDavid and Draisaitl together.


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[Krynn]

He's Deadmonton Bound ,the Oilers leadership sucks and will not be able to handle Kane and his BS . Just wait for the Oilers Special 7x7 or 8x8 lol

[klikitiklik]

I believe the Flames are sitting at 16th right now in the league? We are playing okay but coming off of a 3 game losing streak.

We are exactly where we are every year. If we take a step back and look at our team objectively, are we really that much better? Are we contenders? Do we really have a chance or is this your Flames win when it doesn't matter situation and will fold like a cheap tent when faced with adversity?

The years of mediocracy only feel better because of the S*** show up North. I guess I'll try to enjoy the season game by game, but I have a feeling this mediocre team is just that. Mediocre.

[genetic_phreek]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Just reading an article here that listed 6 targets for CGY not named Kane.
1. Christian Fischer
2. Barret Hayton
3. Dominik Kubalik
4. Jack Roslovic
5. Zack Sanford
6. Rasmus Ristolainen

3 of the 5 are RFA RHS RW. 1 is a center.

I think I'd try to get both Hayton and Fischer in one deal.
Then double down on Roslovic.

For me I'd want Roslovic. He is also one of Tkachuks best friends. The other guy I'd want, unpopular opinion but Rasmus Ristolainen. Risto has so many good tools but just needs to put it together. He's spent most of his career with the Sabres, I'd like to see what he could do with a team like ours.

[SuperMatt18]

I think if Florida (or really any US market) would be preferred for him over playing in Edmonton ( or another canadian market).

He won't want the headache that playing in Canadian media will cause him. Florida would probably perfect for him. Good team, market that he can party in (Miami is pretty close), and wouldn't have any type of media scrutiny.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

For me I'd want Roslovic. He is also one of Tkachuks best friends. The other guy I'd want, unpopular opinion but Rasmus Ristolainen. Risto has so many good tools but just needs to put it together. He's spent most of his career with the Sabres, I'd like to see what he could do with a team like ours.

I figured If you could get a multi player package Fischer and Hayton would be a good package.

I like the Idea of Kubalik. I believe he'd be an insant upgrade on the 3rd line. And possibly really cheap to acquire.

Only couple I'm not fond of are Sanford and Fischer.

Hayton is 22 and has all the tools. Just needs a change of scenery. Plus it'd be nice to have more center depth.

Roslovic I think is a gamble only because he has fallen back from last year so far. And he's a Columbus kid, he probably wants to stay there. But his skillset is intriguing.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I think if Florida (or really any US market) would be preferred for him over playing in Edmonton ( or another canadian market).

He won't want the headache that playing in Canadian media will cause him. Florida would probably perfect for him. Good team, market that he can party in (Miami is pretty close), and wouldn't have any type of media scrutiny.

There's only like 40 some odd games left this season. Edmonton presents the opportunity to go somewhere and *just* play hockey, and given the cheerleader media that we have here in Alberta - he'll be given a free ride, alongside Drybaby or McShrek no less so his numbers could potentially be the best of his career.

I think it actually fits pretty well, because so long as Kane doesn't show up in the media on Whyte Ave actively stabbing someone or something, the narrative will end up being that he went into a Canadian market and played hockey while putting up good numbers in a tough situation (because Edmonton will continue to implode under Holland/Tippett/Smith + Koskinen).

[aaronkarlpatton]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I figured If you could get a multi player package Fischer and Hayton would be a good package.



I like the Idea of Kubalik. I believe he'd be an insant upgrade on the 3rd line. And possibly really cheap to acquire.



Only couple I'm not fond of are Sanford and Fischer.



Hayton is 22 and has all the tools. Just needs a change of scenery. Plus it'd be nice to have more center depth.



Roslovic I think is a gamble only because he has fallen back from last year so far. And he's a Columbus kid, he probably wants to stay there. But his skillset is intriguing.

I completely agree with you. Upgrade for the now and future.

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[dino7c]

Originally Posted by klikitiklik

I believe the Flames are sitting at 16th right now in the league? We are playing okay but coming off of a 3 game losing streak.

We are exactly where we are every year. If we take a step back and look at our team objectively, are we really that much better? Are we contenders? Do we really have a chance or is this your Flames win when it doesn't matter situation and will fold like a cheap tent when faced with adversity?

The years of mediocracy only feel better because of the S*** show up North. I guess I'll try to enjoy the season game by game, but I have a feeling this mediocre team is just that. Mediocre.

Flames are 2nd in the division in points %

Home ice in round one and have played 11 home games

You are under selling their season so far. Christ they have played 5 games in a month.

That's not to say don't upgrade the team but let's be real...they are barely behind Vegas in points %

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

There's only like 40 some odd games left this season. Edmonton presents the opportunity to go somewhere and *just* play hockey, and given the cheerleader media that we have here in Alberta - he'll be given a free ride, alongside Drybaby or McShrek no less so his numbers could potentially be the best of his career.

I think it actually fits pretty well, because so long as Kane doesn't show up in the media on Whyte Ave actively stabbing someone or something, the narrative will end up being that he went into a Canadian market and played hockey while putting up good numbers in a tough situation (because Edmonton will continue to implode under Holland/Tippett/Smith + Koskinen).

I think it’s the exact opposite. The spotlight would most definitely be on him in Edmonton far more than Florida or Carolina. You don’t think he’s going to fly under the radar while playing on McDavid’s wing, do you?

He would be front and center in any Canadian market.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Flames are 2nd in the division in points %

Home ice in round one and have played 11 home games

You are under selling their season so far. Christ they have played 5 games in a month.

That's not to say don't upgrade the team but let's be real...they are barely behind Vegas in points %

Don't bother, the Flames could be 1st in points percentage in the entire NHL and the negative crowd would still find a way to spin it as a bad thing.

[redmile04]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Don't bother, the Flames could be 1st in points percentage in the entire NHL and the negative crowd would still find a way to spin it as a bad thing.

Some are negative but some are just tired of getting their hopes with good regular seasons, 05/06, 18/19 and a few other years, and nothing to show for. Lost first round those years i mentioned. Regular season hasn't really been the problem, close last year to making the playoffs and made it the last 2 years before...even 17/18 would have made it in if Smith didnt get hurt.

Id call it the "Show me some success before i get excited and not let down again" crowd

[Saqe]

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I'm sure Kane would love to play in Florida, the team and the area are great for him. But I don't see how the Panthers would take a risk on him, it's not like they're lacking firepower up front. They need defensive help if anything, I could see them targeting Gio at the deadline.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by redmile04

Some are negative but some are just tired of getting their hopes with good regular seasons, 05/06, 18/19 and a few other years, and nothing to show for. Lost first round those years i mentioned. Regular season hasn't really been the problem, close last year to making the playoffs and made it the last 2 years before...even 17/18 would have made it in if Smith didnt get hurt.

Id call it the "Show me some success before i get excited and not let down again" crowd

Can still be honest about the season so far and skeptical about moving forward, playoffs ect.. After games have been made up we can have an honest conversation about where the Flames sit. If games were even and they were sitting in 2nd a couple points out of first in the division the convo would be different. Thirty home games with no east west travel seems like a pretty big advantage IMO.

[dammage79]

Tough to call what the Flames are. We all know what their weaknesses are from a player standpoint.

But my main concern has always been consistency and we haven't had an opportunity to see if that's resolved itself because they've been through an extremely inconsistent scheduling in the 1st half of the season.

We are also going to see how their conditioning holds up with the 2nd half of the season and into the playoffs if they make it
.I feel they'll be worn down to a nub by the time round 1 kicks off.

[traptor]

The team is a middling team in the league. That's not negative it's realistic. I'm excited about playoffs and think they could do some damage this year, but the flames are not an upper-echelon team. They are 17th place in the league in points, 14th in the league in point %. If you do a 3-year or 5-year average they would be 15-25.

The good news is we have a lot of good young NHL players, our prospect pool is starting to build up again and we should make the playoffs. Hopefully, we get lucky and find more elite talent.