Israel declares war on Hamas

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

It should be, the leaders of Hamas are living in luxury in Qatar smiling all the way to the bank every time a bomb is dropped their own dummy fighters and innocent civilians, they will never negotiate total peace because they love this and don't want peace, they want to end Israel.

I've said before and I'll say it again, Israel needs some surgical drone strikes on Hamas leaders wherever they are, make it known you're willing to go to total war with anyone in order to flush out Hamas, I suspect there's no country willing to go to war to protect these savage leaders.

Well it doesn't really matter if there are surgical strikes or otherwise, but at this point Israel is accomplishing literally NOTHING by blowing the #### out of Gaza while Hamas leadership lives in Qatar with their billions.

Basically Israel is doing exactly what Hamas wants them to do, as the money doesn't flow if Israel isn't in a constant state of war with Hamas.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Wild stuff. Like, if Mossad wants someone dead badly enough, they'll do it. So perhaps people should be asking why they have been left alive?

Same reason the Obama Administration funded the start of ISIS in Syria.

The war machine has to keep going.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Azure

Same reason the Obama Administration funded the start of ISIS in Syria.

The war machine has to keep going.

That sounds to me like you are maybe coming around. Netanyahu doesn't want the hostages released, because it means releasing Hamas prisoners and losing whatever remaining sympathy there is to continuing. He'd have no choice but to stop once the hostages are out of the picture. And he doesn't want to stop. Which is why the farcical calls for Hamas to "release the hostages" are so silly.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

That sounds to me like you are maybe coming around. Netanyahu doesn't want the hostages released, because it means releasing Hamas prisoners and losing whatever remaining sympathy there is to continuing. He'd have no choice but to stop once the hostages are out of the picture. And he doesn't want to stop. Which is why the farcical calls for Hamas to "release the hostages" are so silly.

Exactly. Putting aside the multiple opportunities the government has had to get those hostages released, Netanyahu is on record noting the importance of Hamas in destabilizing the region for Israel’s “gain” (used loosely, because I doubt you’ll find many if any Israelis who see it the same way he does, especially over the past year). He’s supported them and is as much of an enabler as any leader out there.

“Release the hostages and the fighting stops” is a nice sentiment, but it’s insanely naive. But hey, some people out there still believe Al Shifa hospital was still running just fine. So maybe that’s just par for the course.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

That sounds to me like you are maybe coming around. Netanyahu doesn't want the hostages released, because it means releasing Hamas prisoners and losing whatever remaining sympathy there is to continuing. He'd have no choice but to stop once the hostages are out of the picture. And he doesn't want to stop. Which is why the farcical calls for Hamas to "release the hostages" are so silly.

I am no fan of Netanyahu, but that is a major stretch, IMO. Yes, as politicians go, he is obviously thinking about keeping his power, and he has made many strategic mistakes such as appeasing the Orthodox Jews by focusing on West Bank instead of Hamas, but Obama didn't fund ISIS. He funded what became ISIS.

My opinion is the same it has been since day 1, and the same it has been with every other major conflict in that area involving Israel. There are actors working hard to keep things the way they are because it benefits them financially. Whether that is Hamas using the people in Gaza to suck Israel into a conflict they can't win, Israel politicians using the conflicts to avoid needing to give Palestine anything, Egypt building a massive border wall to keep innocent Palestinians out while allowing Hamas to pass through tunnels underneath, or Saudi Arabia playing both sides to keep Iran weak. Nothing is going to change while everyone works for their own benefit.

The outage here needs to start focusing on all the hypocritical organizations who have been funding this with direct money or with their hypocrisy with words. Start with the UNRWA and those fools at the ICC who all of a sudden woke up and realized Hamas is a terrorist organization while doing jack #### all the past 10+ years.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by Azure

Same reason the Obama Administration funded the start of ISIS in Syria.

The war machine has to keep going.

lol

By war machine you mean yourself right? You’re here advocating for actions that we all know prolong killing.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Azure

¢The outage here needs to start focusing on all the hypocritical organizations who have been funding this with direct money or with their hypocrisy with words. Start with the UNRWA and those fools at the ICC who all of a sudden woke up and realized Hamas is a terrorist organization while doing jack #### all the past 10+ years.

Listen to this clown and Manhattanboy try and deflect the blame and narrative towards anyone but the actual psychos that are committing genocide. You can hear the the frustration in his and Manhattanboys posts that Israel is being called out globally for their sick warped mass murder.

UNRWA is not committing genocide.
ICC are not committing genocide
Yes Hamas is a sick warped disgusting bunch of terrorists.

But Israel is no different.

The outrage needs to remain focused on those that are slaughtering tens of thousands of innocents and who are gearing up to slaughter tens of thousand more.

To try and deflect from that is just sick.

[Manhattanboy]

No the outrage needs to be focused squarely on these Sons of Satan.

https://flip.it/9kpVDW

As if there was any doubt as to what From the River to the Sea really means (as repeated by that Spanish lawmaker as she called for recognition of a Palestinian state).

[Zary's-Mustache]

Lol you're really reaching there.
.how did you correlate that phrase with that link?

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

Lol you're really reaching there.
.how did you correlate that phrase with that link?

The Dear Supreme Leader said it to Haniyeh in the same breath as he called for the elimination of Israel.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

The Dear Supreme Leader said it to Haniyeh while calling for the elimination of Israel.

My bad I don't actually watch the videos but yeah he said he wants to form palestine from the river to the sea. What's wrong with that? Maybe he means israelis can live in Palestine freely like the Israelis allow the Palestinians....oh wait.

I know its hard when the shoe is on the other foot. Lots of people believe in a one state solution. I think it's not possible but having that belief doesn't mean you believe in genocide or want all jews dead. If Israel ever ceases to exist it doesn't mean the people of Israel cease to exist.

And if Iran was actually content with killing all the jews which you have repeated numerous times, why do they allow jews to live in Iran like thousands do?

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

No the outrage needs to be focused squarely on these Sons of Satan.

Your problem here is that they're just a different side or version of unhinged evil psychos to the side of unhinged evil psychos that you support.

You just don't like it when your particular side of evil and batbarity is highlighted

[8 Ball]

Pardon my ignorance, but why isn’t the UN not deploying a force into Rafah?

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by 8 Ball

Pardon my ignorance, but why isn’t the UN not deploying a force into Rafah?

They are ineffectual not stupid

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

That sounds to me like you are maybe coming around. Netanyahu doesn't want the hostages released, because it means releasing Hamas prisoners and losing whatever remaining sympathy there is to continuing. He'd have no choice but to stop once the hostages are out of the picture. And he doesn't want to stop. Which is why the farcical calls for Hamas to "release the hostages" are so silly.

Oh damn you got it all figured out, now you just need to tie in the moon men and the mole people! 5G is causing COVID too right? 15 minute cities and Hamas will inject us all with rape vaccines!!!

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Azure

The outage here needs to start focusing on all the hypocritical organizations who have been funding this with direct money or with their hypocrisy with words. Start with the UNRWA and those fools at the ICC who all of a sudden woke up and realized Hamas is a terrorist organization while doing jack #### all the past 10+ years.

UNRWA UNRWA UNRWA. You keep spouting UNRWA but fail to back up your rants with anything of substance.

Italy has clearly listened to you and decided to resume funding to UNRWA.

Italy has announced it will restore funding for the United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA) months after it suspended aid to the agency over Israeli allegations linking UN staff to the deadly October 7 attack.

Rome joins several Western donors in resuming aid after an independent review of UNRWA, led by French former foreign minister Catherine Colonna, found that Israel had not provided any evidence to back its claims.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/...itarian-crisis

But this is clearly not true given Azure's claim that the evidence must be overwhelming. Now if only we could get him to share the evidence.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

Oh damn you got it all figured out, now you just need to tie in the moon men and the mole people! 5G is causing COVID too right? 15 minute cities and Hamas will inject us all with rape vaccines!!!

You doing alright? That's...a lot in one short post.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

No the outrage needs to be focused squarely on these Sons of Satan.

https://flip.it/9kpVDW

As if there was any doubt as to what From the River to the Sea really means (as repeated by that Spanish lawmaker as she called for recognition of a Palestinian state).

The Spain thing is quite pathetic.

The Spanish parliament’s Foreign Affairs Committee on Thursday rejected a motion supporting the Armenian allegations on the incidents of 1915, in the last years of the Ottoman Empire.

The bill was defeated by a 17-9 vote, with nine abstentions. All but three of the 17 "no" votes were cast by the ruling People’s Party.

The motion to recognize the Armenian "genocide" allegations was submitted in 2016 by the leftist, Catalonian ERC party.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/spai...motion/1116447

600,000+ dead, but hey now, lets not go overboard or anything and actually call it a genocide. Amirite Spain you hypocrites? Perhaps we should get the ICC involved?

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

You doing alright? That's...a lot in one short post.

Be careful, Netanyahu is around every corner waiting to kick your dog and eat your babies! Better strap your tin foil hat on tight.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

Be careful, Netanyahu is around every corner waiting to kick your dog and eat your babies! Better strap your tin foil hat on tight.

Nobody actually thinks your interpretation of Fuzz’s post as some conspiracy thing was intelligent. You can probably stop doubling down and just go back to being quiet.