07-10-2022, 06:50 PM
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#6781
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
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I actually don't think it's a certainty that Tkachuk thinks signing the QO is a better play than doing a multi-year deal with the Flames. He had a phenomenal year last season and while good players tend to bet on themselves, he may want to cash in on the year he had as its not guaranteed he'll repeat it this coming year.
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07-10-2022, 06:54 PM
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#6782
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
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I hope one of the Flames steals Johnny's phone tonight at Mony's Wedding - texts Gross that he's in for the Flames and a deal will be dropped tomorrow.
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07-10-2022, 07:39 PM
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#6783
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Kamloops
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Originally Posted by Aarongavey
At this point one must prepare for the distinct possibility that we must deny this undeniable fact come Wednesday in order to be in a positive state of mind for the upcoming season.
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I don't think more than 50% of CP can be in a positive state of mind at any given time.
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07-10-2022, 07:44 PM
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#6784
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by activeStick
I actually don't think it's a certainty that Tkachuk thinks signing the QO is a better play than doing a multi-year deal with the Flames. He had a phenomenal year last season and while good players tend to bet on themselves, he may want to cash in on the year he had as its not guaranteed he'll repeat it this coming year.
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Tkachuks bear play is a 4 year, 35-40M deal. Set for life and ready to cash in for a 7-8 year deal in his prime. Also allows him to cash in immediately following escrow...
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07-10-2022, 07:55 PM
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#6785
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I was told today the current positions are:
11.5 from Johnny
10.0 from the Flames -- offer given directly to Johnny by Murray Edwards yesterday. Not sure if this means that they went over Tre's head or if it was more of a "this is how important you are" type thing.
Ball is currently in Johnny's court.
Also there are some people that indicated they will want out if Johnny leaves the team. Not much of a surprise there.
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07-10-2022, 08:04 PM
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#6786
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DionTheDman
I was told today the current positions are:
11.5 from Johnny
10.0 from the Flames -- offer given directly to Johnny by Murray Edwards yesterday. Not sure if this means that they went over Tre's head or if it was more of a "this is how important you are" type thing.
Ball is currently in Johnny's court.
Also there are some people that indicated they will want out if Johnny leaves the team. Not much of a surprise there.
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Source?
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07-10-2022, 08:04 PM
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#6787
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DionTheDman
I was told today the current positions are:
11.5 from Johnny
10.0 from the Flames -- offer given directly to Johnny by Murray Edwards yesterday. Not sure if this means that they went over Tre's head or if it was more of a "this is how important you are" type thing.
Ball is currently in Johnny's court.
Also there are some people that indicated they will want out if Johnny leaves the team. Not much of a surprise there.
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If that is true, JG walks. That is a pretty big gap and some teams will offer $11.5 million on a 7 year deal. The difference on money for an 8th year $10 million won’t matter. Add tax differences and the fact he will likely get another contract after 7 years, an 8 year deal at $10 million AAV just is not worth it for JG.
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Last edited by FlamesAddiction; 07-10-2022 at 08:10 PM.
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07-10-2022, 08:08 PM
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#6788
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Franchise Player
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I'm interested to know who wants out if Johnny leaves and why they would divulge that at this stage.
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07-10-2022, 08:12 PM
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#6789
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DionTheDman
I was told today the current positions are:
11.5 from Johnny
10.0 from the Flames -- offer given directly to Johnny by Murray Edwards yesterday. Not sure if this means that they went over Tre's head or if it was more of a "this is how important you are" type thing.
Ball is currently in Johnny's court.
Also there are some people that indicated they will want out if Johnny leaves the team. Not much of a surprise there.
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Seriously flames are only at 10 million? Thought they would be at 10.5 by now and play a game of chicken for a day . Let’s get this done.
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07-10-2022, 08:16 PM
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#6790
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kyuss275
Seriously flames are only at 10 million? Thought they would be at 10.5 by now and play a game of chicken for a day . Let’s get this done.
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If that is the offer on the table now with only 2 days left to get it done, then that is insulting to JG. If I were him, I would leave just out of principle.
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07-10-2022, 08:16 PM
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#6791
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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10.5 is where they need to get to maybe 11. Flames will cave in my opinion they have no choice they are so screwed if he leaves.
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07-10-2022, 08:19 PM
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#6792
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DionTheDman
I was told today the current positions are:
11.5 from Johnny
10.0 from the Flames -- offer given directly to Johnny by Murray Edwards yesterday. Not sure if this means that they went over Tre's head or if it was more of a "this is how important you are" type thing.
Ball is currently in Johnny's court.
Also there are some people that indicated they will want out if Johnny leaves the team. Not much of a surprise there.
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If this is true, it confirms what I feared. Ownership dropping the ball big time. Pathetic if true.
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07-10-2022, 08:21 PM
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#6793
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DionTheDman
I was told today the current positions are:
11.5 from Johnny
10.0 from the Flames -- offer given directly to Johnny by Murray Edwards yesterday. Not sure if this means that they went over Tre's head or if it was more of a "this is how important you are" type thing.
Ball is currently in Johnny's court.
Also there are some people that indicated they will want out if Johnny leaves the team. Not much of a surprise there.
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Pretty indicative on what the direction of the Flames should be. If Johnny is gone, you may as well rebuild. Simple as that. This organization could use one, especially if our star winger departs.
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07-10-2022, 08:23 PM
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#6794
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
Pretty indicative on what the direction of the Flames should be. If Johnny is gone, you may as well rebuild. Simple as that. This organization could use one, especially if our star winger departs.
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Are you kidding? We haven’t been this close to building a winner in a very long time. Let’s tear it down and start all over again.
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07-10-2022, 08:25 PM
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#6795
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Franchise Player
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lol @ the Flames if they don’t go above $10M and lose Johnny because of it.
Team is totally fine overpaying James Neal/Milan Lucic, but refuse to pay elite talent what they’re worth.
They’ll pay market value for 2nd and 3rd line forwards, but not elite talent?
Yikes. Flames better up that offer, or it’s rebuild time because the team without Johnny (+ the others that want out of Johnny leaves) is nowhere near Championship quality.
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07-10-2022, 08:31 PM
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#6796
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flamesgod
Are you kidding? We haven’t been this close to building a winner in a very long time. Let’s tear it down and start all over again.
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You’re delusional if you think we can replace what Johnny put out. It’s not happening unless Tkachuk, Mangiapane, or Lindholm take a massive step in offensive production. Bonus if Dube does.
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07-10-2022, 08:31 PM
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#6797
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Chilliwack, B.C
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Anyone can say they offered Gaudreau 10 million on a discussion board doesn't mean it's fact
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07-10-2022, 08:32 PM
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#6798
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Franchise Player
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I still see this coming together at 10.5 if Johnny indeed decides to stay. Hopefully they can both move to that number a bit quicker.
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07-10-2022, 08:32 PM
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#6799
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DionTheDman
I was told today the current positions are:
11.5 from Johnny
10.0 from the Flames -- offer given directly to Johnny by Murray Edwards yesterday. Not sure if this means that they went over Tre's head or if it was more of a "this is how important you are" type thing.
Ball is currently in Johnny's court.
Also there are some people that indicated they will want out if Johnny leaves the team. Not much of a surprise there.
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Orange Julius situation, or someone in the know?
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07-10-2022, 08:33 PM
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#6800
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
10.5 is where they need to get to maybe 11. Flames will cave in my opinion they have no choice they are so screwed if he leaves.
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Yeah. Johnny has them by the balls lol. They have to cave in.
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