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Old 07-01-2025, 03:36 PM   #661
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The Flames need to at least pretend that they are not desperate to trade him.
Ya definitely fooling everyone
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Old 07-01-2025, 03:42 PM   #662
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All of this could have been avoided if Conroy traded Andersson at last years trade deadline when prices were sky high. Boneheaded move on Conroys part, and this has been my stance since the TDL.
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From what LeBrun said it’s a buyers makers but no sellers. Of course the Flames on the sidelines in a market like that
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Old 07-01-2025, 03:47 PM   #664
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Wouldn’t that make it a sellers market? Haha
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I had read a few years ago in what I think it was The Hockey News, in one of their off season survey articles that after Canada the 3 California and 4 NY area (including NJ, NYR, NYI, BUF) were the next places that most players had blocked on their NTCs. Plenty of people dont have an interest in living /playing in Cali/NY. Im kind of shocked that some people are shocked at that.

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Old 07-01-2025, 03:49 PM   #666
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Wouldn’t that make it a sellers market? Haha
He said only Pittsburgh is selling off. The rest is teams looking to make a splash or hockey trade.
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Old 07-01-2025, 03:51 PM   #667
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I agree he's overrated, but calling him not durable isn't fair. The injuries he suffered this season were freak accidents that would injure just about anybody.
Hopefully in the offseason he worked on the eyes in the back of his head that his game needs otherwise Rantanen will get him again.
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Old 07-01-2025, 03:52 PM   #668
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He said only Pittsburgh is selling off. The rest is teams looking to make a splash or hockey trade.
Lack of sellers is a seller’s market.
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Ya so a sellers market. Favors the sellers since there’s more buyers.

A buyers market would be more sellers and favor the buyers
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Old 07-01-2025, 03:56 PM   #670
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All of this could have been avoided if Conroy traded Andersson at last years trade deadline when prices were sky high. Boneheaded move on Conroys part, and this has been my stance since the TDL.
We were chasing a playoff run. Have to build that winning culture!
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Old 07-01-2025, 03:58 PM   #671
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Part of me is really confused as to why this trade is taking this long to get over the finish line, I would imagine that a first + prospects is what CC is looking for, as no one offered anything close to this?...I would assume at least one team has. It really makes me think that they are rushing this rebuild, looking for the "perfect" trade to sell to the fans.

Just get some good future based assets that align with our rebuilding phase, this seems to be dragging out needlessly long
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Old 07-01-2025, 04:09 PM   #672
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We were chasing a playoff run. Have to build that winning culture!
This team had almost 0 chance of any post season success. Even the most optimistic fans would have a hard time seeing this team winning a single round. They were short sighted to not sell assets when there was no chance of playoff success and prices were high.
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Part of me is really confused as to why this trade is taking this long to get over the finish line, I would imagine that a first + prospects is what CC is looking for, as no one offered anything close to this?...I would assume at least one team has. It really makes me think that they are rushing this rebuild, looking for the "perfect" trade to sell to the fans.

Just get some good future based assets that align with our rebuilding phase, this seems to be dragging out needlessly long

Vegas is lowballing for sure... its been positioned as the only option and they need a RHD. But vegas knows calgary is in tough and so probably moves slowly unless someone steps up to rent him. once UFA is over i bet they'll come the table. It's just too bad their prospect base is so bad. 1st, Connolly and the kid they drafted in the 2nd round this year feels about fair value eventually if still a lot underwhelming.

Would be nice if a team that isn't so good steps up with a one better asset for him as a rental like another 1st or a blue chipper.
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Vegas is lowballing for sure... its been positioned as the only option and they need a RHD. But vegas knows calgary is in tough and so probably moves slowly unless someone steps up to rent him. once UFA is over i bet they'll come the table. It's just too bad their prospect base is so bad. 1st, Connolly and the kid they drafted in the 2nd round this year feels about fair value eventually if still a lot underwhelming.

Would be nice if a team that isn't so good steps up with a one better asset for him as a rental like another 1st or a blue chipper.
At this point I think CC has to be ok with a first potentially deferred till 2027 if the 2026 pick has conditions on it. Or even 2 2nd rounders plus a b level prospect.

What this team "really" needs are replacements for Gaudreau and Tkachuk, that will only happen through the draft, a story for another day
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I am not buying Vegas ends up the only option at all
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I am not buying Vegas ends up the only option at all

Have to agree with you on this one, maybe the delay is CC making a hockey trade, Byram??. If a "futures based" trade was all it took, I think this trade would have happen already
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Old 07-01-2025, 05:54 PM   #677
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Friedman on 2025 Free Agent Frenzy - Real Kyper & Bourne

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"But the problem is they haven't been able to make the deal - if Nic Hague would've signed in Calgary, I think this deal got done - but he went to Nashville"
42:20'ish mark it starts

https://open.spotify.com/episode/37R...fc1aeb21bc48d7

That sounds like Friedman is saying Hague wouldn't sign in Calgary, and that stopped the Vegas deal?


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Old 07-01-2025, 05:59 PM   #678
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Man this is a confusing one to follow
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Allvin at his presser said a lot of guys stated their preference for signing in the US. So maybe that is affecting things
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Man this is a confusing one to follow
It lines up with how Friedman said Vegas failed to get it done earlier...so Vegas and Calgary actually had a deal, and Nic frigign' Hague is the one who nixed it?

...I don't think I've ever been more annoyed with a 5th defenceman of another team before...

This also makes me think diss' 3-way trade may end up being the path because it sounds like Conroy is targeting a roster defenceman in the return.

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