The 2025 Offseason thread.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

Has there been any leak on what the Flames are offering Wolf to re-sign? I really hope the team is being aggressive trying to lock him up. Been thinking an 8 year 60 mil deal would be very hard for him to turn down. That's a big risk from the Flames for a young goalie, but I don't think we want to see what the number will be if he pulls off a big season. 7.5m aav would put him 10th in goalie salary (negating Carey Price ltir).

$7.5mil aav is like second line money now, Wolf is tracking to be a star goalie, potentially superstar.

In the current and near future salary cap climate it'd be very difficult to convince Wolf to accept $7.5 aav for max term. $7.5 - $8.5mil AAV is likely going to get you a disastrous 2-3 year term (he's a UFA 2028 and I can't see any scenario where Conroy walks a potential elite goalie to free agency after being a part of Tkachuk walking).

Most likely need $10-$12mil if you want him to commit to a contract that takes him to 30+ years old. 8 year term is asking him to sign his payday contract in his career that takes him through his prime.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by jayswin

$7.5mil aav is like second line money now, Wolf is tracking to be a star goalie, potentially superstar.

In the current and near future salary cap climate it'd be very difficult to convince Wolf to accept $7.5 aav for max term. $7.5 - $8.5mil AAV is likely going to get you a disastrous 2-3 year term (he's a UFA 2028 and I can't see any scenario where Conroy walks a potential elite goalie to free agency after being a part of Tkachuk walking).

Most likely need $10-$12mil if you want him to commit to a contract that takes him to 30+ years old. 8 year term is asking him to sign his payday contract in his career that takes him through his prime.

Are you his agent? $12M for an undersized RFA goaltender with one NHL season under his belt? That would make him the highest paid goaltender in the league, paid more than Stanley Cup and Vézina winners. I love him as a player, but he hasn’t proven that he’s a $12M goaltender yet, and you have to account for the RFA years in the contract.

[jayswin]

$10-$12, I said. You took the high end. I strongly believe he's going to come in much higher than the $7.5 - $8.5 AAV posters have been throwing around for an 8 year deal.

His ranking in the league in terms of contract won-t be entirely relevant when most top tier goalies aren't signing this or last off season after the cap started its massive jump up, annually.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by jayswin

$10-$12, I said. You took the high end. I strongly believe he's going to come in much higher than the $7.5 - $8.5 AAV posters have been throwing around for an 8 year deal.

His ranking in the league in terms of contract won-t be entirely relevant when most top tier goalies aren't signing this or last off season after the cap started its massive jump up, annually.

His cap hit should come in max around Oettinger’s percentage unless he wins the Vezina next year.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by jayswin

$7.5mil aav is like second line money now, Wolf is tracking to be a star goalie, potentially superstar.

In the current and near future salary cap climate it'd be very difficult to convince Wolf to accept $7.5 aav for max term. $7.5 - $8.5mil AAV is likely going to get you a disastrous 2-3 year term (he's a UFA 2028 and I can't see any scenario where Conroy walks a potential elite goalie to free agency after being a part of Tkachuk walking).

Most likely need $10-$12mil if you want him to commit to a contract that takes him to 30+ years old. 8 year term is asking him to sign his payday contract in his career that takes him through his prime.

He could win the Venzina this year and not get into the high end of the 10-12 range.

You are paying him like it's a certainty he'll be an elite goalie.

He had a very good year for a rookie, but he's going to have to be much better before he is considered an elite goalie.

At his stage, if he wants to sign a long term deal years before UFA he'll need to accept less than his high side, or there is little reason for the Flames to do it.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by jayswin

$7.5mil aav is like second line money now, Wolf is tracking to be a star goalie, potentially superstar.

In the current and near future salary cap climate it'd be very difficult to convince Wolf to accept $7.5 aav for max term. $7.5 - $8.5mil AAV is likely going to get you a disastrous 2-3 year term (he's a UFA 2028 and I can't see any scenario where Conroy walks a potential elite goalie to free agency after being a part of Tkachuk walking).

Most likely need $10-$12mil if you want him to commit to a contract that takes him to 30+ years old. 8 year term is asking him to sign his payday contract in his career that takes him through his prime.

Well that's not a leak lol. 7.5m aav is top 10 in the league, as I said. If the number starts with a 10 I expect an absolute lights out season, which is why the Flames are hopefully making a strong pitch now.