2024 NFL Season Thread

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

We are two weeks into the season where starters played less than ever. So I don't know if I'd poo poo this group of QB's too much yet.

The Bears actually gave Williams more to work with off the hop than most any team I can remember for a number one pick. The Texans defence which I'm sure many here are not that familiar with might be a really good unit. Although the concerns about the Bears coaching may be valid.4

That's the thing I don't think anybody here is actually poo poo'ing the QBs.

Just the situations these teams have put them in.

Williams has a decent receiving core but the o-line is no good.

[Sylvanfan]

Pacheco has a broken fibula and will be out for a while. Big loss as the Chiefs RB depth is poor. Left Tackle is a problem, with Hollywood out and Kelce washed, the receivers are no better than last year. Going to need Mahomes to drag them along more than ever.

[Senator Clay Davis]

It should be noted that its not just the NFL where QB play has really declined, but also college QB play seems worse than ever. I know the NFL gets a "free" developmental league by using the NCAA, but at some point a true development league where guys can learn and play against pro concepts (and not play half their schedule against severely overmatched opponents) would really be welcomed.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

It should be noted that its not just the NFL where QB play has really declined, but also college QB play seems worse than ever. I know the NFL gets a "free" developmental league by using the NCAA, but at some point a true development league where guys can learn and play against pro concepts (and not play half their schedule against severely overmatched opponents) would really be welcomed.

Even more reason why these teams should be smart and have a rookie learn the league behind a veteran for their first season.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

How bad does that Panthers trade look? It was bad when it happened but man Young looks to be regressing. Can't blame him. The line is a mess. The entire team is a mess.

Bears received:
�� WR DJ Moore
�� 2023 first-round pick (OT Darnell Wright)
�� 2023 second-round pick (CB Tyrique Stevenson)
�� 2024 first-round pick (QB Caleb Williams)
�� 2025 second-round pick

Panthers received:
�� 2023 No. 1 pick (Bryce Young)

Even if Williams is a bust it’s probably the worst trade ever.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Even more reason why these teams should be smart and have a rookie learn the league behind a veteran for their first season.

But that's one year of poverty wages lost, which is why most teams just won't do it. And you can't blame them in a world where Dak is making $60 million per. It's not a coincidence that the quality of QB play has declined since the inception of the rookie cap. If you hit the poverty rookie lottery you can extract north of $200 million in surplus value (as the Texans will with Stroud). A true developmental league where prospects can develop where they are earning a minor league salary that doesn't count against the cap would surely help teams not rush guys.

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Even if Williams is a bust it’s probably the worst trade ever.

Nah, that means the Bears got nothing when they could have had Stroud. Getting the rest of the haul, but still not getting the QB is pretty horrible (albeit on brand for the Bears), and makes whatever value they got for guys like Moore and the picks kind of worthless. It would be one of the biggest everyone loses trades ever.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Maybe they should create the minor league in Europe so we stop with the European games.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

But that's one year of poverty wages lost, which is why most teams just won't do it. And you can't blame them in a world where Dak is making $60 million per. It's not a coincidence that the quality of QB play has declined since the inception of the rookie cap. If you hit the poverty rookie lottery you can extract north of $200 million in surplus value (as the Texans will with Stroud). A true developmental league where prospects can develop where they are earning a minor league salary that doesn't count against the cap would surely help teams not rush guys.



Nah, that means the Bears got nothing when they could have had Stroud. Getting the rest of the haul, but still not getting the QB is pretty horrible (albeit on brand for the Bears), and makes whatever value they got for guys like Moore and the picks kind of worthless. It would be one of the biggest everyone loses trades ever.

Carolina could have had Stroud. It’s who they wanted all along. In stepped the owner.

Now Young will be a Roughrider next season.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Is Pitts just not that good or is he being wasted in Atlanta.

[transplant99]

Interesting strategy by ATL to decide tackling is optional.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Another snooze fest

[The Familia]

I’m heading to Vegas this weekend to watch the Raiders play Carolina. I e never been to an NFL game before and haven’t been to Vegas ion 17 years! Any tips or recommendations of things to see or do before the game starts? Tailgate/team parties? Cool bars or restaurants?

[flamingred89]

Jalen Hurts is a dweeb.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by The Familia

I’m heading to Vegas this weekend to watch the Raiders play Carolina. I e never been to an NFL game before and haven’t been to Vegas ion 17 years! Any tips or recommendations of things to see or do before the game starts? Tailgate/team parties? Cool bars or restaurants?

Boy are you in for a surprise!

No idea on the pre game rituals for Raider fans in Vegas, but there is no shortage of cool bars nor restaurants in that town.

If you are a fan of LV my suggestion would be to find a fan message board much like this one, and ask/see where they congregate. Too hot down there still to tailgate during the day i imagine.

[KelVarnsen]

What a terrible penalty

[transplant99]

Hurts is gonna get....hurt......... if he keeps runnin like that.

[MRCboicgy]

So just Joe Buck telling us that the Eagles aren't pass rushing all night?

[Senator Clay Davis]

Well at least this game is flying by even if it's pretty boring.

[Paulie Walnuts]

145 pass yards between Cousins and Hurts.

[Mathgod]

This one... Hurts... to watch.


Sorry.