[GT] Laffs @ FLAMES!!

[Flamesfan05]

Yeah that’s a bull#### call

[Cube Inmate]

Meghan Mikkelson is the best color commentator I've heard on Flames radio...ever. So insightful as a recent high level player. I don't love her voice but I'm really starting to appreciate her.

(Re: comments about Hrudey and Millen)

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

For the people who don't understand the complaint about the NSH goal... it's not about whether or not it was a hand pass... it's about Forsberg literally being allowed to catch and throw the puck from behind the net, over the top of the net and down to the crease in front of the net.

THAT's allowed, but a puck deflecting off someone's pinky 2 minutes before someone else scores is not.

Exactly, the rule says it has to be batted DOWN

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by CASe333

This is the rule book definition (see below). I'm not sure how you can say this was 100% the right call based on how the rule emphasizes "clearly directed" and not "touched" or "deflected".

A challenge is supposed to show 100% conclusive there was a problem that leaded to the goal since it was called a goal on the ice.



9.1 Hand Pass - A player shall be permitted to stop or “bat” a puck in the air with his open hand, or push it along the ice with his hand, and the play shall not be stopped unless, in the opinion of the on-ice officials, he has directed the puck to a teammate, or has allowed his team to gain an advantage, and subsequently possession and control of the puck is obtained by a player of the offending team, either directly or deflected off any player or official. For violations related to “closing his hand on the puck”, refer to Rule 67 – Handling Puck. 79.2 Defending Zone - Play will not be stopped for any hand pass by players in their own defending zone. The location of the puck when contacted by either the player making the hand pass or the player receiving the hand pass shall determine the zone it is in. 79.3 Face-Off Location – When a hand pass violation has occurred, the ensuing face-off shall take place at the nearest face-off spot in the zone where the offense occurred, unless the offending team gains a territorial advantage, then the face-off shall be at the nearest face-off spot in the zone where the stoppage of play occurred, unless otherwise covered in the rules. When a hand pass violation occurs by a team in their attacking zone, the ensuing face-off shall be conducted at one of the face-off spots outside the defending team’s blue line in the neutral zone.

Yup. Not directed to a teammate, and there was no advantage between Tavares and Oesterle.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

League darlings. Games against them basically aren't worth watching.

Never an even playing field against them.

This never fails to hold true.

**just a remind that last game against them Nazem Kadri was penalized for scoring a goal**

^ Case and point.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by CGY12

I hated it but correct call

If it is the right call explain to us the puck thrown from behind the net goal against us, go ahead, I'll wait.

[colbym72]

Originally Posted by SmoggyFlamesFan

The war room tried to screw us twice this game and nearly succeeded. The first is that "distinct kicking motion" the second cost us the game. I am getting really tired of this bush league inconsistency and clear lack of integrity. Set a standard. Stick to it. Be consistent. It honestly is starting to feel like the officials bend the rules to whichever team they want to win.

How exactly did the league try to screw us twice when they awarded us the goal? Holy #### people, I’m surprised we don’t have a tin foil shortage for all the hats you people are making. It’s not rigged. It’s just a bad rule on the non-goal. Flames blew a 2-0 lead. That’s the issue

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

League doesn't know it's own rules.

Sorry the war room doesn't. Which is based where again..

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

If it is the right call explain to us the puck thrown from behind the net goal against us, go ahead, I'll wait.

I'm not comparing it to that or saying I agree with that call but solid response!

[Beninho]

Thats not an obvious and clear hand pass. At best it is debatable. Call on the ice should have stood but they looked at every angle to find an issue with it. Cuz Leafs

[CASe333]

The league needs to clean up their rule book so no more grey areas or get rid of these types of challenges. I don't know how anyone who has read the rule book or refed a game in real time ever would want that type of play to be classified as a "glove pass". The way the rule is written its pretty clear that a puck has to be clearly directed to his team mate and glancing off is not a direct pass.

If that play is a hand pass effing clean up your rules and say that the effing puck can't touch the glove.

[Ferarri]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

League doesn't know it's own rules.

Sorry the war room doesn't. Which is based where again..

War room should be in Regina outside on a farm. I’m guessing things would be decided rather quickly.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

If it is the right call explain to us the puck thrown from behind the net goal against us, go ahead, I'll wait.

Haha no coming back from that one.

They'll pull out their magnifying glasses for Toronto though.

[direwolf]

A good, entertaining hockey game completely ruined by the league's dogs*** officiating. These sorts of calls, along with the blatant Oiler/McDavid favouritism, is the kind of crap that's turning me off the NHL these last couple of years.

It really takes the excitement out of scoring when any goal can be immediately challenged, reviewed, called back, etc... It's ruining the game.

[Scrambler]

put a shirt on for a tv interview..

[Flamesfan05]

The league doesn’t know what a kick is or even what is a pass….

[dino7c]

Get rid of challenges...can't even get excited about the most exciting play in hockey anymore

the puck goes in the net is a ####ing goal unless the ref calls something, its not like its there isn't just as much debate as before

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

For the people who don't understand the complaint about the NSH goal... it's not about whether or not it was a hand pass... it's about Forsberg literally being allowed to catch and throw the puck from behind the net, over the top of the net and down to the crease in front of the net.

THAT's allowed, but a puck deflecting off someone's pinky 2 minutes before someone else scores is not.

It’s not allowed - the refs missed it as a penalty - but it’s not a challengable call

You can argue it should be - but it’s not in any way the same issue - since a Flamss played the puck it was not a hand pass

It should have been a penalty for closing the hand on the puck - but that isn’t a challengable call

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

For the people who don't understand the complaint about the NSH goal... it's not about whether or not it was a hand pass... it's about Forsberg literally being allowed to catch and throw the puck from behind the net, over the top of the net and down to the crease in front of the net.

THAT's allowed, but a puck deflecting off someone's pinky 2 minutes before someone else scores is not.

I understand this complaint and agree with you, I’m not a mind reader though so when two posters say throwing the puck to your teammate is allowed I’ll have to disagree. Otherwise that just becomes the story going forward. If you’re going to be mad at least understand what you’re mad about

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Ferarri

War room should be in Regina outside on a farm. I’m guessing things would be decided rather quickly.

Should go to a multi-national bunker in Antarctica.

They shouldn't even care for the sport. Best way to get a determination that's by the book