This thread is a wild fataing read for people with no interest in clothes. Love that you guys would be judging me for what I wear. Like undershirts are a no go? Lol, gtfo, I'll wear them until the day I die. And the vitriol spewed at some of the faux pas is amazing.
I'm exactly like you guys but with cars. Seeing dudes in nice clothes get out of a ##### box, car with dirty wheels, a poorly maintained vehicle, etc always makes me laugh. I guess because I prioritize vehicles, but to put clothes - which seem so laughably unimportant to me - ahead of having a killer ride, nicely maintained property, etc baffles my mind.
Still a good read. Interesting how so many things are viewed in a universal way. Like as though there are objective do's and don'ts. Honestly didn't know that...I thought dressing was about wearing what you want - following all these rules seems limiting and no fun. I'm a big fan of the thread, though.
This thread is a wild fataing read for people with no interest in clothes. Love that you guys would be judging me for what I wear. Like undershirts are a no go? Lol, gtfo, I'll wear them until the day I die. And the vitriol spewed at some of the faux pas is amazing.
I'm exactly like you guys but with cars. Seeing dudes in nice clothes get out of a ##### box, car with dirty wheels, a poorly maintained vehicle, etc always makes me laugh. I guess because I prioritize vehicles, but to put clothes - which seem so laughably unimportant to me - ahead of having a killer ride, nicely maintained property, etc baffles my mind.
Still a good read. Interesting how so many things are viewed in a universal way. Like as though there are objective do's and don'ts. Honestly didn't know that...I thought dressing was about wearing what you want - following all these rules seems limiting and no fun. I'm a big fan of the thread, though.
There’s a commonality between cars and clothes: taking pride in one’s appearance.
The people in this thread see wearing crappy clothes the same way you see riding around in dirty, rusted, unmaintained clunkers.
I happen to be in both camps, and like both, there’s a huge allowance for style, because some of the stuff in this thread is not to my tastes whatsoever, and some of it is. Just like some cars I like, and some I wouldn’t touch if it was free.
There's a big difference between dressing well and being trendy/stylish. Just like how there's a big difference between driving a well maintained car and a stylish one.
There is often a misconception these things are the same. There is definitely some style advice in this thread that is...not to my tastes and IMO will make someone look a bit silly, regardless of fit/quality. Many, many trends that are considered stylish for short periods of time are, in the long run, hideously ugly.
But wearing clothes that fit and are reasonably well made and go well with your age/occupation/body type are timeless. That part never goes out of style.
There are fewer examples with vehicles but it can still apply.
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Wearing doc martens on “fancy occasions” is the style equivalent of lifting a bmw.
I hear you. I only go to one or two fancy events each year so I have no motivation to buy fancy clothes that will be out of style after one or two occasions. I'm happy to stick with the Docs and look a little out of place to a limited number of people for two hours per year. Definitely not saying you're wrong and I can appreciate your take...just not something I can seem to care about.
I also think overly stylish men look vain, but if you need fancy clothes everyday for work it's perfectly reasonable to "get into it." I'm sitting here in a button up Quicksilver shirt and cargo shorts, which is pretty dressed up for me at work because I usually just wear a T-shirt. My work is 85% office work and 15% shop work. In the shop I don't want to be getting nice clothes dirty and if I start sweating I definitely want an undershirt to soak up any moisture instead of ruining my outer clothes. I have to think if you didn't have to already have nice clothes for work and work events, you may be as hard pressed as me to invest in a bunch of nice shoes and clothes in the off chance you have to attend a funeral.
There is often a misconception these things are the same. There is definitely some style advice in this thread that is...not to my tastes and IMO will make someone look a bit silly, regardless of fit/quality. Many, many trends that are considered stylish for short periods of time are, in the long run, hideously ugly.
The thing people don't necessarily get about fashion, or people who are really into clothes (of which there are none in this thread), is that it's not as much about "looking stylish". Anyone who marks the occasion when the new men's F/W runway collections get posted up on vogue so they can go through each shot and talk about it on a forum much like this one is perfectly capable of wearing understated well-fitting clothes and looking "stylish". The whole fashion side of things is a different thing; it's more of a human being as a medium for moving functional art. Good designers are fundamentally artists, and they have a goal in mind for whatever clothes they're making, and it's basically never to "look stylish". As far as the people who are into that sort of thing go, it's just like the art scene: for some people they're genuinely interested in it as a hobby, and for others it's just a status symbol. Regardless, it's inevitably going to seem pretentious to outsiders who don't give a crap.
I've never been deeply into that particular pastime, though there was a time in my 20's where I was vaguely aware of it and would keep track of what specific designers I liked were up to.
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Sliver, I don't think anyone takes the 'rules' of this thread that seriously as they shouldn't if they don't want to.
All I see is guys asking for advice and advice being given. We're all free to give and take that advice as we please. The certain style rules exist because they're tried and tested over time. That's really it.
Like "I think my wardrobe looks like ####, how would I go about revamping my style without spending too much money?"
Then you'll have a bunch of replies about how to do so effectively. "Buy this type of shoe, get these colours of pants, try some sweaters that look like x,y and z"
It would be a pretty pointless thread if we all just said, "who cares man, dress however you please, go spend your money on a nice ride instead."
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Sliver, I don't think anyone takes the 'rules' of this thread that seriously as they shouldn't if they don't want to.
All I see is guys asking for advice and advice being given. We're all free to give and take that advice as we please. The certain style rules exist because they're tried and tested over time. That's really it.
Like "I think my wardrobe looks like ####, how would I go about revamping my style without spending too much money?"
Then you'll have a bunch of replies about how to do so effectively. "Buy this type of shoe, get these colours of pants, try some sweaters that look like x,y and z"
It would be a pretty pointless thread if we all just said, "who cares man, dress however you please, go spend your money on a nice ride instead."
I know and I'm reading it on that basis. It's interesting to somebody that didn't even know my peers out there were following fashion rules or caring one way or another.
This thread is a wild fataing read for people with no interest in clothes. Love that you guys would be judging me for what I wear. Like undershirts are a no go? Lol, gtfo, I'll wear them until the day I die. And the vitriol spewed at some of the faux pas is amazing.
I'm exactly like you guys but with cars. Seeing dudes in nice clothes get out of a ##### box, car with dirty wheels, a poorly maintained vehicle, etc always makes me laugh. I guess because I prioritize vehicles, but to put clothes - which seem so laughably unimportant to me - ahead of having a killer ride, nicely maintained property, etc baffles my mind.
Still a good read. Interesting how so many things are viewed in a universal way. Like as though there are objective do's and don'ts. Honestly didn't know that...I thought dressing was about wearing what you want - following all these rules seems limiting and no fun. I'm a big fan of the thread, though.
To be clear, undershirts are not a “no go”. They’re underwear, so wear what you want. But they go “under” your clothes and should not be visible.
Isn’t that kind of common sense? Wear a nice dress shirt that you think looks nice. Why draw attention to the Hanes tshirt underneath?
How is spending money on nice clothes vain, but spending money on a nice vehicle not vain?
The difference in my mind is I've always viewed primping and preening in front of a mirror and trying on outfits as vain. It's a bias I have that I'm trying to shake. I started thinking watches were dumb and ended up buying one I like after following the "watches you wear" thread for years. This thread is similar. I'm not disparaging your interest in fashion. If anything I'm thinking I should have clothes that fit a little better. I can't see myself spending lots of money on clothes, but endeavoring to at least get better-fitting clothes seems like a good starting point.
I look at maintaining a vehicle or keeping my property looking sharp as different from clothes because I like to maintain/build the value as much as possible in my material possessions. I tend to look at the things I own in terms of their value and in terms of the labour it took to acquire them. If I let a car go to #### or let my house fall apart, I feel like I'm just giving away my time and it eats at me.
For me, if I see a guy roll up in even a basic car like a Honda Accord, but he has clean wheels, clean glass, no garbage in it, tires shined, no wax residue on trim, no dust on dash, etc., I instantly respect him. Whether he hops out in fancy clothes or jeans and a T-shirt makes no difference to me. How he maintains his stuff is a bigger reflection on how he carries himself than whether or not he likes fashion. It's just how I view things.
