[PGT] Flames fall 4-1. Series tied 1-1.

[PrettyBoyFlizzy]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

From the province:

“We’ve had a little history in the past and when things get heated up you have to go with the situation. The only reason it was a 2-on-1, I was on my back and he kept punching and Hammer came over and grabbed him off. He (Engelland) was still trying to fight after we got him off and the ref was telling us to tie him up and he wasn’t quitting. We just tied him up and everything kind of died down and we were both standing there and kind of looked at each other and kind of came together again.”

Here’s what Hamhuis had to say about being the third man in and getting a game misconduct:

“I was worried about Dorse. I was kind of watching to see if Engelland was going to let up and he didn’t. He kept throwing punches when Dorse was defenceless on his back, so I had no choice to go in. They seemed to want to start something down there with the players they had on the ice. It was a situation where everyone was matched up and I was on my own and it was good because there came a point where Engelland ended up on top of Dorse and I was watching and hoping he would let off. That was pretty disrespectful when you have a guy down and you continue to punch.”

Maybe he should talk to his teammate Richardason about being disrespectful using MMA moves on a player that is not even defending himself.

We are coming for them on Sunday, we are coming. I am so mad I want to throw on a jersey myself and get out there with the boys on Sunday and just hammer every piece steaming pile of crap on that team, including etch a sketch Willie.

[Hockey]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Not attacking you, but is that quote serious? There's no way the refs can be that incompetent.

No idea if serious, I would think so though

http://twitter.com/botchford/status/589440705795231744

[browna]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

From the province:

“We’ve had a little history in the past and when things get heated up you have to go with the situation. The only reason it was a 2-on-1, I was on my back and he kept punching and Hammer came over and grabbed him off. He (Engelland) was still trying to fight after we got him off and the ref was telling us to tie him up and he wasn’t quitting. We just tied him up and everything kind of died down and we were both standing there and kind of looked at each other and kind of came together again.”

"Kind of came together" because you punched him right in the face about as cowardly as possible.

Here’s what Hamhuis had to say about being the third man in and getting a game misconduct:

“I was worried about Dorse. I was kind of watching to see if Engelland was going to let up and he didn’t. He kept throwing punches when Dorse was defenceless on his back, so I had no choice to go in. They seemed to want to start something down there with the players they had on the ice. It was a situation where everyone was matched up and I was on my own and it was good because there came a point where Engelland ended up on top of Dorse and I was watching and hoping he would let off. That was pretty disrespectful when you have a guy down and you continue to punch.”

So much win here. 5 seconds of watching Stajan, a guy with no fighting majors this year, getting forearmed and elbowed on the ground negates any "concern" or "disrespect" Hamhuis should have about the team goon getting his lunch fed to him.

[BCF]

MOD EDIT: Knock it off.

[Robo]

lol thats pathetic i hate the canucks hope we stomp them what a pathetic team lol is anyone claiming to be the victim on our side I would think stajan has a pretty good case but not a peep no crying from our guys

[BCF]

Originally Posted by browna

"Kind of came together" because you punched him right in the face about as cowardly as possible.



So much win here. 5 seconds of watching Stajan, a guy with no fighting majors this year, getting forearmed and elbowed on the ground negates any "concern" or "disrespect" Hamhuis should have about the team goon getting his lunch fed to him.

I totally agree with this and thought pot calling for kettle

[jschick88]

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC · 6 minutes ago
1) Here's what I understand about England: his 3 game misconducts were a) instigator, b) being the aggressor in a fight, i.e."being told...

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC to stop" by the referee and not doing so (similar to Matt Carkner in 2012) and c) having another fight after the original one, which is...

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC the same game misconduct Dorsett got. Those three are all in different "categories," which means together they do not bring a suspension...

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC However, if the NHL does not rescind the instigator (and no doubt the Flames will ask for a review), he would get a 1-game suspension.

[malcolmk14]

Engelland may get suspended for the instigator, which the NHL will review. But he won't be suspended for the game misconducts.

[PrettyBoyFlizzy]

Hopefully Hamhuis is the target is the target right off the bat for Ferland on Sunday, you wanna be tough boy running around. Give your gold medal back from being on Team Canada as well, it was shameful that he was even part of that team.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by jschick88

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC · 6 minutes ago
1) Here's what I understand about England: his 3 game misconducts were a) instigator, b) being the aggressor in a fight, i.e."being told...

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC to stop" by the referee and not doing so (similar to Matt Carkner in 2012) and c) having another fight after the original one, which is...

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC the same game misconduct Dorsett got. Those three are all in different "categories," which means together they do not bring a suspension...

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC However, if the NHL does not rescind the instigator (and no doubt the Flames will ask for a review), he would get a 1-game suspension.

"being told to stop", fighting against a known fighter/enforcer, yet Stajan was allowed to get pummeled while he was defenceless.

There is no justice here.

[burn_this_city]

Top line needs to wake up. They have been horrible. I'm starting to wonder if Regehr's cheapshots on Hudler and Monahan have injured both. Gaudreau needs to use his speed and create separation. Hopefully the crowd gets the boys going on Sunday, they need a kick in the ass.

[heep223]

Great learning experience for the young Flames. If they didn't have an appropriate level of hate for the Canucks before, they do now.

This is just going to rally the team...pretty much exactly what we need. Remember what turned the season around last year?

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoyFlizzy

Hopefully Hamhuis is the target is the target right off the bat for Ferland on Sunday, you wanna be tough boy running around. Give your gold medal back from being on Team Canada as well, it was shameful that he was even part of that team.

If by target you mean that Hamhuis gets hit hard and legal every time he touches the puck , then I'm alright with that. Flames are more than likely going to be another dman short for next game. The last thing flames should do is take a stupid 5 minute penalty just to try and get even on Hamhuis. Rest up Brodie, Russell, and Wideman got a feeling that those 3 will be playing 35+ minutes on Sundays game.

[Art Vandelay]

I hope that game was the low point for the Flames in this series. They looked very disorganized, out of sync. I wonder if Hudler is injured. He hasnt looked like himself this series. Need the top line to start producing or this series will end badly.

[SportsJunky]

That was a bad game played by Calgary last night. I enjoyed the Ferland show though. I could watch Burrows jumping up and down shaking his hand all day long. Flames lucky to get the split. Hopefully they can at least split the next two. This is a winnable series based on the games I've watched. Vancouver is not scary but Calgary needs to up the compete level. Vancouver can be had for sure.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by heep223

Great learning experience for the young Flames. If they didn't have an appropriate level of hate for the Canucks before, they do now.

This is just going to rally the team...pretty much exactly what we need. Remember what turned the season around last year?

Canucks have now pissed off the entire Flames organization top to bottom. Even Monahan and Gaudreau were showing their ornery side. Hell, Treliving let loose too. That has to be one heck of a motivator.

[JoelOtto29]

wow, can't wait for tomorrow!

[sa226]

The game camera didn't catch everything, but I don't know how in a end of game scrum like that there can be an instigator. On either side. Everybody was a willing combatant.

I can understand one punch to Stajan while he is down. It happens. I honestly didn't see any more after that so I don't know if Stajan was hit anymore. Iggy did it in a fight against Brouwer awhile ago I think. The fact that the Refs didn't rush to that after they went down is ridiculous.

To me the most obvious thing was Hamhuis third man in on Engelland and Dorsett. That was ridiculous. Everybody saw it. There was a fight going on and he rushed it. I don't know what Engelland did before that to garner so much attention, so maybe there was something to it. To me it just looked like Engelland found a willing dance partner and went for it.

[sadora]

Watched this game at my Canuckle-head of a cousin's place last night, best part was getting my 4 year old niece to chant Go Flames Go at her dad! lol

Experience was the key factor in this game in my opinion. The nuck's were better at creating chances on the rush, even when our boys were playing better, they didn't create too many scoring opportunities. Looked like they were trying too much to make the perfect play instead of getting the puck on goal. Something I definitely hope they change for game 3.

Loved the energy at the end, though I hope it doesn't mean a suspension for Engelland.
Can't wait to see how home ice will affect/motivate this young team. Game 3 will be fun!

[wingmaker]

Baptism by fire for the Flames. Insert Bob's "you can't buy a pack of experience at the pharmacy" quote. SO much different managing your emotions over 82 individual games vs over a seven game series. We will see if they can adapt fast enough to make some noise in this series or if it will take them the summer to think on it.

Going into the series, the trump card the Canucks had was playoff experience and it was the difference in game two. After a fairly even first game where Calgary was more opportunistic, the Flames were not ready at all for game two. The Canucks knew what they had to do and exercised their game plan perfectly.

With the split, Calgary still has a good opportunity. If they can hold court at home, the don't have to win again in Rogers arena to take the series. Having last change and the support of the crowd will help them, I think. But the forward group will have to play a heck of a lot better for them to stand a chance. I wonder if splitting up the top line and redistributing them with some of the players who have been more impactful would help get them going.

As for the brawl, I hope the league lets it all go. Clearly, both sides have an argument for one player or the other crossing the line. As a Flames fan, I deplore the Canucks and the way they handled themselves, but I can see the other side of it, as well. I hope the league chalks it up to playoff hockey and lets the two teams figure it out on the ice. Having said all that, I will be ticked off if they do suspend Engelland alone.