05-23-2014, 02:50 PM
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#661
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Just coming in this thread to say that I hate the Habs.
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05-23-2014, 02:51 PM
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#662
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Franchise Player
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Not a single poster has defended Carcillo. Give it a rest.
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05-23-2014, 03:05 PM
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#663
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Erie
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How does someone get a broken jaw if he isn't hit in the head?
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05-23-2014, 03:16 PM
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#664
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Portland, OR
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05-23-2014, 03:17 PM
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#665
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by minnow
How does someone get a broken jaw if he isn't hit in the head?
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My guess would be when his head hit the ice. To me the hit was shoulder to chest.
Two games is what he deserved. Late hit resulting in an injury.
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05-23-2014, 03:26 PM
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#666
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Is it ok to think both plays were dirty? Both suspensions seem fair to me.
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05-23-2014, 03:31 PM
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#667
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Losing Carcillo for ten games is actually a good thing for the Rangers.
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05-23-2014, 03:43 PM
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#668
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trackercowe
Jeez what a faker  |
I think if you were to go back and look, you'd find I never suggested he was faking, and condemned the hit from the beginning
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05-23-2014, 03:47 PM
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#669
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Dreger speculates that Carcillo will attempt to appeal the suspension, but I don't get how he has a case. It's my understanding that if it is intentional, and I don't know how you could possibly argue it wasn't, it's an automatic 10 games.
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05-23-2014, 04:13 PM
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#670
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Franchise Player
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nm, already posted.
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05-23-2014, 04:24 PM
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#671
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Self-Suspension
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I just saw the Prust hit for the first time. One of the dirtiest hits ive seen in a long time. Makes the Bruins seem like nice guys.
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05-23-2014, 04:30 PM
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#672
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Franchise Player
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For those wondering how his jaw is broken, it definitely wasn't the initial point of contact, but it looks like he still clipped his head with the follow through.
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Before you call me a pessimist or a downer, the Flames made me this way. Blame them.
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05-23-2014, 04:31 PM
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#673
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AcGold
I just saw the Prust hit for the first time. One of the dirtiest hits ive seen in a long time. Makes the Bruins seem like nice guys.
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Haha. That's funny.
That wasn't the dirtiest hit I saw yesterday...
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05-23-2014, 04:33 PM
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#674
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codynw
[...wasn't the initial point of contact, but it looks like he still clipped his head with the follow through.
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Exactly right.
Had point of contact been head, in person hearing would have been required
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05-23-2014, 05:07 PM
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#675
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Lifetime Suspension
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These suspensions are backwards.
Carcillo should get 2, Prust should get 20.
If someone grabs your shirt or jersey, and starts yanking on it in an aggressive way, sometimes it's just instinct to shove back, I could see myself doing it in the heat of the moment. The official wasn't hurt... give him a couple games and move on.
Prust hit on the other hand, what a filthy, dirty, POS hit that was. Lost any respect I had left for the guy.
I believe suspensions in the playoffs should be tied to the severity of the injury. Prust should be out for whatever the league feels fair at minimum, and until Stephan gets back in the line-up, he's eating popcorn in the press box.
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05-23-2014, 05:34 PM
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#676
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pylon
If someone grabs your shirt or jersey, and starts yanking on it in an aggressive way, sometimes it's just instinct to shove back, I could see myself doing it in the heat of the moment. The official wasn't hurt... give him a couple games and move on.
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Physical abuse of officials will never be tolerated, nor should it be.
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05-23-2014, 05:39 PM
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#677
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Franchise Player
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I like Prust, but disappointed in the NHL only handing out two games on that. Type of hit they should clamp down on harder.
Also, people need to stop calling things hockey plays......it means nothing.
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05-23-2014, 05:45 PM
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#678
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Wah. Wah. Wah.
If Kreider did that to Pacioretty, you'd be calling 911.
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He came pretty close last year on the Gryba-Eller hit.
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05-23-2014, 07:06 PM
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#679
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codynw
For those wondering how his jaw is broken, it definitely wasn't the initial point of contact, but it looks like he still clipped his head with the follow through.
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I didn't see this live and just watched a couple of different angles on this including this one. To me - it actually looks like his shoulder does catch him on the jaw on the initial point of contact or real close to the initial point. Either way it was definitely late and unnecessary. Not a "hockey hit" in today's NHL as one poster was calling it.
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05-23-2014, 07:56 PM
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#680
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pylon
These suspensions are backwards.
Carcillo should get 2, Prust should get 20.
If someone grabs your shirt or jersey, and starts yanking on it in an aggressive way, sometimes it's just instinct to shove back, I could see myself doing it in the heat of the moment. The official wasn't hurt... give him a couple games and move on.
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Yet, in the thousands of instances of a ref/linesman grabbing a player to keep him under control in every year of hockey, only a handful of incidences like this have ever happened.
I agree with your argument that cheap, predatory, and clearly undisciplined hits (like Prust's) need to carry an equally stiff penalty...but I just can't brush what Carcillo did off as that inconsequential. You can't act aggressively towards an official, and you can't let the door to those actions open even the slightest.
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"I see as much misery out of them moving to justify theirselves as them that set out to do harm."
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