Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > Fire on Ice: The Calgary Flames Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-17-2014, 06:29 AM   #661
Poe969
Franchise Player
 
Poe969's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
Exp:
Default

I don't know why the hawks are holding on to him...he's clearly not signing there and it pretty much looks like he's coming to the Flames or maybe panthers. Why don't they just trade his rights and be done with it, at least they'll get something out of it and be done with the speculation. If they're going to walk away from this with nothing just to prove a point, it's kinda dumb. Even if the Flames/panthers aren't making a serious offer, I'm sure a deal could be made.
__________________
Fan of the Flames, where being OK has become OK.
Poe969 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2014, 06:31 AM   #662
devo22
Franchise Player
 
devo22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Poe969 View Post
I don't know why the hawks are holding on to him...he's clearly not signing there and it pretty much looks like he's coming to the Flames or maybe panthers. Why don't they just trade his rights and be done with it, at least they'll get something out of it and be done with the speculation. If they're going to walk away from this with nothing just to prove a point, it's kinda dumb. Even if the Flames/panthers aren't making a serious offer, I'm sure a deal could be made.
^^ you do know that Chicago will get a 2nd round pick (54th overall) from the league as compensation if they don't sign him, right? Unless somebody offered more than a late 2nd, the Blackhawks would be stupid to trade his rights. And since no team will give up any assets if they feel they can sign him as UFA, this one will drag out until mid August, I'm sure.
devo22 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to devo22 For This Useful Post:
Old 07-17-2014, 06:34 AM   #663
Poe969
Franchise Player
 
Poe969's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
Exp:
Default

Nope lol. I knew they'd get some compensation but I thought it was regardless of if they trade him or not for some reason. I guess it's just a waiting game. I think that's the most frustrating part of it all, and probably more frustrating for us as fans wanting to know if we've got a new prospect or not.
__________________
Fan of the Flames, where being OK has become OK.
Poe969 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2014, 07:07 AM   #664
MrMastodonFarm
Lifetime Suspension
 
MrMastodonFarm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Exp:
Default

Where would Kevin Hates slot in our prospect poll if he did sign?

Somewhere outside the top ten?
MrMastodonFarm is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to MrMastodonFarm For This Useful Post:
Old 07-17-2014, 07:12 AM   #665
getbak
Franchise Player
 
getbak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
Exp:
Default

I'd put him somewhere in the same range as Bill Arnold.

Personally, I'd have Arnold ahead because I like his overall 200ft game. From what I've seen, Hayes isn't as strong in his own zone as Arnold, but probably has a better offensive upside.

I'd expect them to be low in the top-10 or just outside the top-10.
__________________
Turn up the good, turn down the suck!
getbak is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to getbak For This Useful Post:
Old 07-17-2014, 07:37 AM   #666
Suave
Scoring Winger
 
Suave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Exp:
Default

Looks like Rangers will be interested as well:

The Rangers have targeted pending free-agent winger Kevin Hayes, the 22-year-old Boston College graduate who was selected 24th overall by the Blackhawks in the 2010 Entry Draft, but who will be eligible to hit the open market on Aug. 16 if he does not sign with Chicago by Aug. 15, The Post has learned.

http://nypost.com/2014/07/17/boston-...rangers-radar/
Suave is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Suave For This Useful Post:
Old 07-17-2014, 08:06 AM   #667
nik-
Franchise Player
 
nik-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Exp:
Default

Yay, tampering through the media. The Sather way.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterJoji View Post
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
nik- is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to nik- For This Useful Post:
Old 07-17-2014, 08:10 AM   #668
ignite09
Powerplay Quarterback
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Suave View Post
Looks like Rangers will be interested as well:

The Rangers have targeted pending free-agent winger Kevin Hayes, the 22-year-old Boston College graduate who was selected 24th overall by the Blackhawks in the 2010 Entry Draft, but who will be eligible to hit the open market on Aug. 16 if he does not sign with Chicago by Aug. 15, The Post has learned.

http://nypost.com/2014/07/17/boston-...rangers-radar/
So according to Larry Brooks, Gaudreau is a center now? At least do a bit of homework if you want to come across as an insider.
ignite09 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to ignite09 For This Useful Post:
Old 07-17-2014, 08:34 AM   #669
Clever_Iggy
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: City by the Bay
Exp:
Default

Go ahead Hayes, hold out to sign with the Rangers. That snake Sather can use his mouth piece Brooks to get it in your head that the Rangers would be a better fit than Calgary... but after a year or so, you'll end up in Columbus or Springfield.
Clever_Iggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2014, 08:36 AM   #670
Poe969
Franchise Player
 
Poe969's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
Exp:
Default

I think if he really wanted to play with the rangers, he'd go there after his first contract. He can only get paid so much no matter the team, why not make that while having fun with your friends and then move on if you want. I just don't think the rangers are really in it. The rangers are like the leafs, they're rumoured to be involved with every player available.
__________________
Fan of the Flames, where being OK has become OK.
Poe969 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2014, 09:12 AM   #671
SuperMatt18
Franchise Player
 
SuperMatt18's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
Exp:
Default

Also New York will be a harder roster to crack.

Will probably be Florida with his brother, or Calgary with his man crush.
SuperMatt18 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2014, 09:23 AM   #672
Enoch Root
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: May 2012
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm View Post
Where would Kevin Hates slot in our prospect poll if he did sign?

Somewhere outside the top ten?
I think he would slot 2nd on the RW list at this point. Smith has the upside but is 18 and unproven. Hayes is knocking on the door to the NHL.

For me, he slots anywhere in that 2nd tier of forwards with Granlund, Arnold, Knight and Reinhart - trying to crack the NHL lineup but without the upside of the Gaudreau, Baertschi, Poirier, Klimchuk group.

For me:
Granlund
Reinhart
Hayes
Arnold
Knight
Enoch Root is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2014, 10:18 AM   #673
saXon
First Line Centre
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Exp:
Default

Somehow I pictured this as Hayes on his way to the Flames, passing by and sticking it to the other clubs looking to sign him.

__________________

saXon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2014, 10:30 AM   #674
logan_izer10
Backup Goalie
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by saXon View Post
Somehow I pictured this as Hayes on his way to the Flames, passing by and sticking it to the other clubs looking to sign him.

If that kangaroo kicked me into that pond I would've chased him down and beat the living @%@#^ out of him
logan_izer10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2014, 10:56 AM   #675
sun
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Not cheering for losses
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by logan_izer10 View Post
If that kangaroo kicked me into that pond I would've chased him down and beat the living @%@#^ out of him
It's not a real kangaroo - just a guy in a costume.
sun is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to sun For This Useful Post:
Old 07-17-2014, 11:24 AM   #676
RM14
First Line Centre
 
RM14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

I have no idea who played on what line in the WC this year but Kevin Hayes stat line is not great. Or, helps show how outstanding the JG performance was.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/team.p...4&status=stats
RM14 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2014, 11:58 AM   #677
Parallex
I believe in the Jays.
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm View Post
Where would Kevin Hates slot in our prospect poll if he did sign?
I'd probably rank him just ahead of Klimchuk around 7ish.
Parallex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2014, 12:03 PM   #678
jesters91
Scoring Winger
 
jesters91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18 View Post
Also New York will be a harder roster to crack.

Will probably be Florida with his brother, or Calgary with his man crush.
I am not sure of the contract discussion have been going between the two sides but he hasn't re-signed with the Panthers yet

Quote:
George RichardsVerified account
‏@GeorgeRichards
#FlaPanthers sign RFA C Brandon Pirri to a two year deal. Still need to sign Kulikov and Hayes.
__________________
“You continue to talk to teams, but I look at our forward group and I would put them against anybody." Darryl Sutter - February 25th, 2010
jesters91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2014, 12:14 PM   #679
sureLoss
Some kinda newsbreaker!
 
sureLoss's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jesters91 View Post
I am not sure of the contract discussion have been going between the two sides but he hasn't re-signed with the Panthers yet
Won't matter Jimmy Hayes filed for arbitration. Unless the arbitrator awards him more than $3.5mil (very unlikely), the Panthers will get him for at least another year.
sureLoss is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to sureLoss For This Useful Post:
Old 07-18-2014, 11:33 AM   #680
jesters91
Scoring Winger
 
jesters91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
The Rangers have targeted pending free-agent winger Kevin Hayes, the 22-year-old Boston College graduate who was selected 24th overall by the Blackhawks in the 2010 Entry Draft, but who will be eligible to hit the open market on Aug. 16 if he does not sign with Chicago by Aug. 15, The Post has learned.
Hayes, who is continuing to negotiate with the Blackhawks, is expected to be pursued by numerous NHL clubs. Several industry sources report they believe the Rangers will be among a handful of finalists in the bidding for the 6-foot-3, 205-pound left-handed shooting right wing, who played two seasons with Chris Kreider, should he become a free agent.
A finalist for the Hobey Baker award given to the NCAA’s best player, Hayes recorded 65 points (27-38) for the Eagles as a senior while playing on a line with Hobey Baker winner Johnny Gaudreau, the center who joined the Flames for the final game of their season after having been selected 104th overall by Calgary in 2011.

Several NHL talent evaluators told The Post they believe Hayes, who did not attend Chicago’s prospect camp last week after having done so in each of the previous four summers, likely would have been selected between 15th and 25th had he been eligible to re-enter the 2014 draft. He is regarded as an offensive talent perhaps a bit lacking in the ability to grind.

Hayes, who is eligible/required to sign a two-year Entry Level deal regardless of whether he signs with Chicago or becomes a free agent, would have a shot to make the Rangers with a strong training camp. The Blueshirts appear to have vacancies on their third and fourth lines.
http://nypost.com/2014/07/17/boston-...rangers-radar/
__________________
“You continue to talk to teams, but I look at our forward group and I would put them against anybody." Darryl Sutter - February 25th, 2010
jesters91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:40 PM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy