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Old 06-10-2013, 06:19 AM   #661
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Have you actually read the article in question? The Toronto Star did not say that Ford beat his players. They reported (correctly) that Ford was dismissed from his coaching position at Newtonbrook Secondary School following an incident with a player. The TorStar article was very clear that they could not confirm if a physical altercation took place.

Read the article and judge for yourself:

http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hal...gh_school.html



That story, in which they're quoting eye witnesses from an event that occurred nearly a decade ago, is an entirely different situation than the current story in which two of the Star's own reporters claim to have personally seen the crack video.
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Old 06-10-2013, 06:20 AM   #662
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http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hal...gh_school.html

If you read the original story - which you obviously haven't - you can see that the Star is very careful to say that there are several people who claim to be witnesses to the physical altercations and verbal abuse, but that one of Ford's assistant coaches is asked about the allegations and that he denies anything of the sort ever occurred. One paragraph explicitly says: "Witnesses interviewed by the Star disagree on whether there was a physical confrontation between Ford and the student player."

If you think that is "false", you have a very different definition of "false". Reporting on what people claim to have witnessed can never be false unless the reports themselves are falsified, not just because the allegations are unproven or later proven to be untrue. Further, Rob Ford has never sued the Star for any of the various unflattering stories about him, which, if they were truly "false", he surely would have done.

In other words, you have no idea what you are talking about, and the irony of you complaining about a news outlet being insufficiently exacting in their pursuit of truth, while you don't bother to check your own "facts", is telling.
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Old 06-10-2013, 07:05 AM   #663
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Thanks and thanks for reading my post correctly
Are you seriously claming putting "did they not?" means your whole argument is that "well, maybe they lied before, so they might again, but I'm too lazy to spend 10 seconds on Google looking it up and I'd rather waste your 10 seconds reading this post which has no actual meaning until someone checks my facts for me"?
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:19 PM   #664
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Are you seriously claming putting "did they not?" means your whole argument is that "well, maybe they lied before, so they might again, but I'm too lazy to spend 10 seconds on Google looking it up and I'd rather waste your 10 seconds reading this post which has no actual meaning until someone checks my facts for me"?
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Old 06-10-2013, 10:29 PM   #665
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Wait, what the what?
The Toronto star so far has had nothing but a great track record for telling the truth. They print one ambiguous story in you're mind, and you're all over them. whereas Ford has been caught in at least 3 big lies and you're totally willing to overlook those and defend him to the nines?

...are you Doug Ford?
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Wait, what the what?
The Toronto star so far has had nothing but a great track record for telling the truth. They print one ambiguous story in you're mind, and you're all over them. whereas Ford has been caught in at least 3 big lies and you're totally willing to overlook those and defend him to the nines?

...are you Doug Ford?
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Old 06-11-2013, 01:43 PM   #667
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Another staff member of Ford's is gone (this one fired):

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013...executive.html
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Old 06-11-2013, 01:58 PM   #668
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Another staff member of Ford's is gone (this one fired):

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013...executive.html
That's a bit misleading. Robinson is an elected city councillor, and she still holds that role. She was only "fired" from Ford's hand-picked executive committee (sort of like his equivalent of a cabinet).
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Old 06-11-2013, 03:11 PM   #669
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Yes - "our sources" is always a good way to cover your ass
But the Ford's are upstanding citizens?

Rob Ford was friends with a guy who now lives in a house with his mother, who is an addict. Neighbours of the house say that it is a drug den and police has come there many times. A picture shows Rob Ford in front of this house along with convicted drug dealers, one of whom dies soon after the picture is taken. In the meantime a guy shows up at the drug house and beats the occupants with a metal pipe to try and get information about the video.

Does this not raise your suspicion at all? Or are you just being contrarian for the sake of it?

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But the Ford's are upstanding citizens?

Rob Ford was friends with a guy who now lives in a house with his mother, who is an addict. Neighbours of the house say that it is a drug den and police has come there many times. A picture shows Rob Ford in front of this house along with convicted drug dealers, one of whom dies soon after the picture is taken. In the meantime a guy shows up at the drug house and beats the occupants with a metal pipe to try and get information about the video.

Does this not raise your suspicsions at all? Or are you just being contrarian for the sake of it?
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More problems: Police knew about the video before the story broke:

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/exclusi...roke-1.1323657

Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair held a news conference Thursday, but refused to answer questions about the methodology of the Thursday police operation, dubbed Project Traveller, the evidence collected or whether there were any possible links to Ford.

"All of the evidence will come out in court, where it belongs," he said.
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...ice-raids.html

Toronto investigators knew about an ongoing relationship between Mayor Rob Ford and the men he's seen posing with in a widely publicized photograph that has ties to his alleged drug use, police sources tell CBC News.

One of the men pictured was arrested today in a series of pre-dawn raids targeting guns and gangs in the city's west end. Another man in the photo, Anthony Smith, was shot dead outside a King Street nightclub two months ago

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It has to be the Rob Ford lookalike! Poor guy is being framed and now even the police is in bed with the Star. When will this end, oh the humanity!
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More problems: Police knew about the video before the story broke:

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/exclusi...roke-1.1323657

Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair held a news conference Thursday, but refused to answer questions about the methodology of the Thursday police operation, dubbed Project Traveller, the evidence collected or whether there were any possible links to Ford.

"All of the evidence will come out in court, where it belongs," he said.
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CTV News has learned that Toronto Police were investigating the existence of an alleged video involving Mayor Rob Ford, several weeks before the story first appeared in the Toronto Star.

As part of the investigation leading to the raids on Thursday, officers obtained telephone wire-tap evidence.

A highly-placed source confirms to CTV News that on those wiretaps, persons of interest discussed that video in detail, and referred to the mayor's alleged presence in the video.
CTV is typically kind to Rob Ford.
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Man, it's season 6 of The Wire!
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Thank goodness I just finished season 5 on Wednesday and am ready for this!
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Anyone else expect that the video is, at best, a mash up of Rob Ford quotes and done on a home computer?

Only someone on crack would think you could get money for it.
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Anyone else expect that the video is, at best, a mash up of Rob Ford quotes and done on a home computer?

Only someone on crack would think you could get money for it.

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http://kotaku.com/toronto-mayors-cra...eo-g-559030568

Extra! Extra! Games' Stay Mayor, now available for free on Google Play, doesn't specifically call this particular mayor Rob Ford, but just look at the guy. That is not a healthy video game character. Oh, and there's also the app description.
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We should trade Nenshi to Toronto for picks and prospects. His trade value has never been higher.
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