[Rumour] Dreger: Markstrom trade won't happen unless NJ includes Mercer and higher draft pick

[FusionX]

Originally Posted by mile

https://twitter.com/user/status/1766234493965545979


lol

Bad look imo. The fact that you ultimately decided to roll the dice on 2 other subpar moves shows that you have/had a need or demand. We have the supply. Pay our price or you don't get it. That's the market, not extortion lol. Honestly if he's going to accuse other GMs of extortion when he doesn't get what he wants, I'd be worried NJ fans.

Don't get an asset, "they were trying to extort me!"

Get an asset but overpay, "they extorted me! Not my fault!"

Nothing will be his fault, including the upcoming wasted years of the team's prime.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Wolven

And Conroy just raised the price for the summer.

Connie gonna trade him to Philly or Carolina now just so jersey has to play him more often now

[OldSam]

I have already sent a box of soothers to Fitzgerald. Ha. Ha.

[The Yen Man]

It's not like Conroy was looking to trade Markstrom, other teams were the ones desperate and inquiring. Of course Connie's gonna give you what it will take to move him. Take it or leave it Fitz. Good luck with your subpar goalies going forward.

[Reign of Fire]

Originally Posted by mile

https://twitter.com/user/status/1766234493965545979


lol

[bluejays]

Call me a pessimist but Mercer really took a dive this season. How is he an untradeable asset? Surely highly valued but if you’re getting a potential game changer and you already have a glut of young guys, how you can’t trade this one, is beyond me.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

His comments seem to indicate it will not be Mercer moved.

I would be shocked if a deal with Jersey gets done if we don't come off Mercer. Fitzgerald sounds like a baby, and made dumb moves to get 2 backups.

[butterfly]

The New Jersey GM is whining but I wish we just took whatever was on the table. Ugh.

At least the Flames have 4 picks in the top 2 rounds. Should get some good prospects.

[devo22]

accusing other GMs of extortion is a pretty bold strategy when you know there's a good chance you're going to revisit these deals in the summer ... then again, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a new Devils GM at that point.

[Heavy Jack]

Man what a terrible read in this situation by Fitz, embarrassing.

[midniteowl]

Extortion, Fitz? Come summer, Conny the meanie gonna ask for 1st + Mercer + Casey + Holtz.

[SuperMatt18]

It's Fitz just parading to try to make the fan base and ownership give him a pass.

Calgary and Nashville are both ahead of the Devils in the standings right now...with goalies in Markstrom and Saros that have strong histories as starting goaltenders.

This isn't the rental UFA market and neither team is desperate to make a move. You have to overpay to some extent to get the player.

It's a bit more complex with some of the extra picks thrown in but I would have argued San Jose was more desperate to move Hertl than the Flames or Predators were to move Markstrom or Saros, and they got a 1st and the Knights top propsect.

I'd also probably argue Markstrom or Saros would be more valuable and would provide more impact than Hertl will for Vegas.

If both teams with goalies are asking for Mercer + 1st...and you're the one saying "No you're trying to extort me" then I think it comes down to you not understanding the market and that you're trying to convince a team to trade you an asset they have no need to move.

Mercer + 1st for Markstrom with 25-50% is fair when you consider the ask to make the trade has to be "overpayment" to get a team to move their starting goalie, that's potentially a Vezina candinate for the 2nd time in 3 seasons.

I wanted the Flames to move Markstrom personally because I think it's the best move longer term to maximize our draft pick both this year and next year...but I also think that Fitz should have realized he would have to overpay if he wanted the goalie his assistant GM said was a top 5 goalie in the NHL.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Fitzgerald may not have agreed on the price, but that doesn't mean that Conroy was trying to extort him.


If I get a few calls on my 1955 Mercedes 300 SLR Uhlenhaut, even though I am not really needing to sell it, and some bozo offers me a million bucks, and nobody else offers me anything else, it doesn't mean that it is only worth a million bucks. I don't sell.



If anything, you could argue that Fitzgerald was trying to extort Conroy. Saros was 'sort of' on the market as much as Markstrom was at one point, and the a (rumoured) similar price was given out and was rejected by Fitzgerald. We don't know what Ullmark was about to move for (yet - and maybe we won't ever know the details).



Sounds like to me that Fitzgerald went 'Big Game Hunting', but mistakenly brought his BB gun instead.

[PaperBagger'14]

Fitz can’t afford another wasted season with the Devils roster being right in their window so I’m positive he’ll be making a trade in the offseason. He actually weakened his position and has completely tipped his hand between his carousel of terrible goalies and then the butthurt quote.

Go on Conroy, increase the price significantly for the Devils and make him sweat, Conroy has almost all the leverage here. We don’t need to get rid of Marky, but they can’t afford another crappy year of goaltending

[automaton 3]

Sheesh. Fitzy seems to be taking the negotiations personally. Not a great sign for his longevity as a GM.


The other GM's owe him nothing.

[Tbull8]

Flames could still retain on Markstrom prior to July 1 right? Maybe that’s why Connie didn’t use the third retention slot. If there’s a deal on the draft floor, he has flexibility still

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

It's Fitz just parading to try to make the fan base and ownership give him a pass.

Calgary and Nashville are both ahead of the Devils in the standings right now...with goalies in Markstrom and Saros that have strong histories as starting goaltenders.

This isn't the rental UFA market and neither team is desperate to make a move. You have to overpay to some extent to get the player.

It's a bit more complex with some of the extra picks thrown in but I would have argued San Jose was more desperate to move Hertl than the Flames or Predators were to move Markstrom or Saros, and they got a 1st and the Knights top propsect.

I'd also probably argue Markstrom or Saros would be more valuable and would provide more impact than Hertl will for Vegas.

If both teams with goalies are asking for Mercer + 1st...and you're the one saying "No you're trying to extort me" then I think it comes down to you not understanding the market and that you're trying to convince a team to trade you an asset they have no need to move.

Mercer + 1st for Markstrom with 25-50% is fair when you consider the ask to make the trade has to be "overpayment" to get a team to move their starting goalie, that's potentially a Vezina candinate for the 2nd time in 3 seasons.

I wanted the Flames to move Markstrom personally because I think it's the best move longer term to maximize our draft pick both this year and next year...but I also think that Fitz should have realized he would have to overpay if he wanted the goalie his assistant GM said was a top 5 goalie in the NHL.

Or he is a idiotic moron.

[kobasew19]

Really cheering against the Devils to make the playoffs. Suck it Fitz.

[Flamesfan05]

There is a market when both sides want to make a deal

There are not too many really good goalies

On the other hand, there are not too many team willing to pay for a top goalie

[dgibb10]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

It's Fitz just parading to try to make the fan base and ownership give him a pass.

Calgary and Nashville are both ahead of the Devils in the standings right now...with goalies in Markstrom and Saros that have strong histories as starting goaltenders.

This isn't the rental UFA market and neither team is desperate to make a move. You have to overpay to some extent to get the player.

It's a bit more complex with some of the extra picks thrown in but I would have argued San Jose was more desperate to move Hertl than the Flames or Predators were to move Markstrom or Saros, and they got a 1st and the Knights top propsect.

I'd also probably argue Markstrom or Saros would be more valuable and would provide more impact than Hertl will for Vegas.

If both teams with goalies are asking for Mercer + 1st...and you're the one saying "No you're trying to extort me" then I think it comes down to you not understanding the market and that you're trying to convince a team to trade you an asset they have no need to move.

Mercer + 1st for Markstrom with 25-50% is fair when you consider the ask to make the trade has to be "overpayment" to get a team to move their starting goalie, that's potentially a Vezina candinate for the 2nd time in 3 seasons.

I wanted the Flames to move Markstrom personally because I think it's the best move longer term to maximize our draft pick both this year and next year...but I also think that Fitz should have realized he would have to overpay if he wanted the goalie his assistant GM said was a top 5 goalie in the NHL.

Tom Fitzgerald should be fired if he trades Mercer+1st for Markstrom.