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Old 10-28-2013, 08:11 AM   #661
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Ran the Nokian WRs and WR2 for years. Great snow tire. Loved them.

Made a call a few years back to try the Michelin X-Ice2 and am quite happy. Most times the roads are icy, not snow bound, so the X-Ice2s are better. Also noticed they wear much better.

Snowy roads, Nokians WR2s. Cold/icey roads, Michelin X-Ice2s.
I just bought a set of Michelin X-Ice3. Just wanted to know how good they are on very icey conditions. The area I live in has a lot of hills and often gets iced over. I want something that will help me with the inclines. What's your opinion on them?

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Old 10-28-2013, 08:12 AM   #662
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I just bought a set of Michelin X-Ice2. Just wanted to know how good they are on very icey conditions. The area I live in has a lot of hills and often gets iced over. I want something that will help me with the inclines. What's your opinion on them?
Wait aren't you doing this backawards?
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:15 AM   #663
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Wait aren't you doing this backawards?
What do you mean?
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:17 AM   #664
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I thinking of buying a set of Michelin X-Ice3. Just wanted to know how good they are on very icey conditions. The area I live in has a lot of hills and often gets iced over. I want something that will help me with the inclines. What's your opinion on them?
Just think it might have been better this way, get reviews/opinions and then make purchase.

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Old 10-28-2013, 08:19 AM   #665
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Just think it might have been better this way, get reviews/opinions and then make purchase.
I already did. All the reviews talked about the stopping power and great traction. I am happy with that. I'm asking if it's good on the inclines. None of the reviews talk about the tires performance on hilly roads.

So it's ok, I know what I'm asking
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I already did. All the reviews talked about the stopping power and great traction. I am happy with that. I'm asking if it's good on the inclines. None of the reviews talk about the tires performance on hilly roads.

So it's ok, I know what I'm asking
cool, cuz clearly i didn't.............
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:26 AM   #667
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cool, cuz clearly i didn't.............
I didn't make it very clear, so it's my fault. All good.
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:27 AM   #668
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I just bought a set of Michelin X-Ice3. Just wanted to know how good they are on very icey conditions. The area I live in has a lot of hills and often gets iced over. I want something that will help me with the inclines. What's your opinion on them?
Winter tires don't make too much difference on ice. Of course, winters will still be better than all season on ice but pretty much nothing on ice will give you too much traction unless you stud the winters. Snow, deep snow or mud and snow mix is where winter tires deliver their greatest benefit.
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Anyone cares to comment about the differences between X ice 2 vs 3? The X Ice 3 for my car will be -2.3% smaller in diameter than stock but Michelin doesn't make stock X ice 3 for my car. If I wanted stock, I would have to buy the older X Ice 2. I guess -2.3% isn't that big a deal so I'm inclined to get the X Ice 3.
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Old 10-28-2013, 09:00 AM   #670
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Winter tires don't make too much difference on ice. Of course, winters will still be better than all season on ice but pretty much nothing on ice will give you too much traction unless you stud the winters. Snow, deep snow or mud and snow mix is where winter tires deliver their greatest benefit.

That's BS. Look up any winter tire test done on an ice rink. Tirerack has a few. They outperform all seasons by a significant amount on ice.
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Old 10-28-2013, 09:07 AM   #671
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Winter tires don't make too much difference on ice. Of course, winters will still be better than all season on ice but pretty much nothing on ice will give you too much traction unless you stud the winters. Snow, deep snow or mud and snow mix is where winter tires deliver their greatest benefit.

I'm gonna have to disagree. Winters make a big difference, even on ice. I see it everyday. Heck, I was leaving a parking lot last year, and 2 SUVs in front of me had to back up and go around from an exit because they couldn't make it up. My winters had no problems going up the exit.
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So is there a consensus on when to put winter tires on? I have an opportunity to get them put on tomorrow or I could wait and put them on later myself (which I don't mind doing).
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Old 10-28-2013, 09:47 AM   #673
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When the average temperature hits 7C is the rule I go by. There have been a few articles on this.

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You may be wondering what is the best time to install your winter tires, and for what duration should you have them installed. This primarily depends and your local weather. One thing is for sure, don't wait for the very last minute and have them installed beforehand. A good guideline for installing your winter tires is once the temperature is regularly 7 degrees Celsius or less, and they should be removed once the temperatures are consistently higher than 7 degrees Celsius. This will ensure that they do not wear prematurely in warmer weather, but you shouldn't get caught by surprise.


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When the average temperature hits 7C is the rule I go by. There have been a few articles on this.





http://www.1010tires.com/store/t-Winter-Tires-CAD.aspx
The problem is we get maybe 2 days "notice" to do this.......
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So is there a consensus on when to put winter tires on? I have an opportunity to get them put on tomorrow or I could wait and put them on later myself (which I don't mind doing).
Don't bother trying to "time" the exact optimum date to put on tires. It's not worth the risk. A few years back I used to do this and got caught driving back in sheer ice. Long story short, got in an accident that probably doesn't happen if I had my winter tires on. The pennies you save in tire wear is a lot less than the cost of body work....

I change my own tires now and it's a rule for me - change em on Thanksgiving weekend for two reasons: 1) I'll actually have time and 2) It usually snows before Halloween.
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Don't bother trying to "time" the exact optimum date to put on tires. It's not worth the risk. A few years back I used to do this and got caught driving back in sheer ice. Long story short, got in an accident that probably doesn't happen if I had my winter tires on. The pennies you save in tire wear is a lot less than the cost of body work....

I change my own tires now and it's a rule for me - change em on Thanksgiving weekend for two reasons: 1) I'll actually have time and 2) It usually snows before Halloween.
Yup, that's my general rule as well. Either Thanksgiving weekend or the weekend before it. Yes, you save a couple weeks of wear and tear, but it's not worth the stress of not having it should a freak winterstorm hit. With Calgary weather, it's pretty unpredictable.

Plus, I like changing it when it's still warm enough outside that I can go out in a t-shirt or hoodie. I've made the mistake of changing too late one year when it dropped down to minus 10, and it kind of sucks.
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I agree with both of you. Even when you're changing your own, it is difficult to time things perfectly. I managed to get both of my cars changed over this weekend, but only after using both Friday and Saturday nights after getting home from social things with friends. It only takes about an hour per car, but of course this past weekend was the busiest I've had in ages.

It was just soooo warm last week. Couldn't bring myself to think about snow and ice.
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I changed one set Saturday, gorgeous weather. And one set last night. Brrrrrrr. One more to go, but I barely drive, so I'll do it if it warms up a bit or if I need the car.
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Little late to the party here, but does anyone have recommendations for tire changeover and potentially storage? What should i be expecting for price?
I see Harpers Tire recommended a few pages back, any others?
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Little late to the party here, but does anyone have recommendations for tire changeover and potentially storage? What should i be expecting for price?
I see Harpers Tire recommended a few pages back, any others?
Urban X tires to change your tires over. I started a thread a little while ago about this and these guys were recommended . Now that I've been there I will go no where else. Cost me $80 to take off my summer tires and instal the new tires I bought onto my winter rims. This was $20 cheaper then anyone else I could find and they actually let you make appointments, I had one for 11am and I got there a couple minutes early and left at 11:30.
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