2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Doesn’t look like there is a Celebrini or a Bedard level prospect in this draft. And there looks to be a big drop off after the top 8-10.

That is the sense I am getting just from what other people who know more about than I do are saying.

The top 5 or so is pretty solid, but then kind average or poor after that. A good year to be picking in the top 5 because there is a good chance those teams can get a step up on the teams drafting deeper into the 1st round.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by mdubz

So nothing that other teams would be interested in?

Precisely hahaha.

Multiple picks, Rasmus, Brz, Poirier, Pospisil, Kadri can bring quite a bit of value still...

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by mdubz

So nothing that other teams would be interested in?

It's nearly impossible to trade into the top 5 or top 10 teams don't want to tade back and if they do they likely don't want to move to far back.

Kind of why having our 1st this year would be so good. You have a better shot at trading that 1st and say Andersson to move up. Some of the teams in the top 10 probably didn't expect being there. I am looking at the Kraken, Rangers and Predators and they probably want to get back into the mix next season but not give up an unexpected high 1st.

Even a Chicago, Anaheim and San Jose will want to show some progression next year, especially Chicago.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

It's nearly impossible to trade into the top 5 or top 10 teams don't want to tade back and if they do they likely don't want to move to far back.

Kind of why having our 1st this year would be so good. You have a better shot at trading that 1st and say Andersson to move up. Some of the teams in the top 10 probably didn't expect being there. I am looking at the Kraken, Rangers and Predators and they probably want to get back into the mix next season but not give up an unexpected high 1st.

Even a Chicago, Anaheim and San Jose will want to show some progression next year, especially Chicago.

Thats kinda what I was thinking. Would Ras be worth moving down 10-15 spots for a team like the Kraken? I'd think so. Preds have committed big money to winning now so does a prospect 2-3 years away really help them win with Stammer and Marchesseault?

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

I could see a team like Seattle be willing to move a high pick for help now. Feels like they need to take a step sooner rather than later and they have a ton of young centers

I think Detroit or Buffalo could be the best bets for that if they were to be picking outside the top 8. Both desperate teams to start getting better now. Unfortunately, Buffalo would for sure be on Andersson’s no trade list and Detroit is on a tear so their pick may end up being outside the top 15.

The anger that so many fans will have if Misa falls to 12th and the flames end up giving that exact pick to Montreal (who uses it to take Misa) cannot be overstated.

[Red Potato Standing By]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I think Detroit or Buffalo could be the best bets for that if they were to be picking outside the top 8. Both desperate teams to start getting better now. Unfortunately, Buffalo would for sure be on Andersson’s no trade list and Detroit is on a tear so their pick may end up being outside the top 15.

The anger that so many fans will have if Misa falls to 12th and the flames end up giving that exact pick to Montreal (who uses it to take Misa) cannot be overstated.

Fans will get angry whoever is picked at that position.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Thats kinda what I was thinking. Would Ras be worth moving down 10-15 spots for a team like the Kraken? I'd think so. Preds have committed big money to winning now so does a prospect 2-3 years away really help them win with Stammer and Marchesseault?

I think that drop would be hard to stomach for the Kraken, but hypothetically speaking.

What if we have pick 7 and they have pick 5. I would likely want them to add in another pick in a later round but Pick 7 and Andersson for Pick 5 and say a 3rd rounder and you get a chance to draft a Misa. I would do that. They also get to stay in the top 8 and get a player for a season of suffering.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I think Detroit or Buffalo could be the best bets for that if they were to be picking outside the top 8. Both desperate teams to start getting better now. Unfortunately, Buffalo would for sure be on Andersson’s no trade list and Detroit is on a tear so their pick may end up being outside the top 15.

The anger that so many fans will have if Misa falls to 12th and the flames end up giving that exact pick to Montreal (who uses it to take Misa) cannot be overstated.

Detroit has won 7 straight after the coaching change. I think they have a better shot passing us in the standings.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Red Potato Standing By

Fans will get angry whoever is picked at that position.

So the best bet is for the Flames to just keep on rolling and give pick #20 to the Canadiens. Because then who cares. And next season is good for a big bottom out with all our assets on hand.

This is why we should be cheering for the wins!

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Detroit has won 7 straight after the coaching change. I think they have a better shot passing us in the standings.

Dead cat bounce. Happens every time. They didn't magically become a good team with a crappy roster.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by FBI

Fleury, Gaudreau

I don't put Gaudreau in the elite company of the other names. He was great but not quite one of those guys.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by stemit14

It’s funny thinking of the extreme scenarios by the trade deadline: either going on a run to be solidly in a playoff spot or having a rough stretch and end up dropping into the top 10. At this point, the flames have shown that they will most likely be right where they are by the deadline. Probably either in the last playoff spot or just outside and within 2-3 points of Vancouver in either direction. It’s the murkiest of waters at that point and the toughest call to make as far as selling players.

I think the next 3 games will be really telling for how the rest of the month goes. I feel like 4-6-0 is how the last 10 of January would play out.

Wins: LA at home (done), Blackhawks on the road (tonight), Sabres and Ducks at home.
Losses: Jets, Wild, Jets on the road, Caps at home
???: 2 games in St. Louis this week. I think these are losses because of a few factors. Road games. Blues will be rested while we are flying in from Chicago on a back-to-back. Vladar is likely starting tomorrow after Wolf plays the Blackhawks.

Now I just need to cheer for them to continue to surprise me.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

You sure about that? Washington was a contender year in and year out. Holtby was on the bench to start the playoffs. Binnington looked like a bum for half a year until they made a coaching change. Washington got rid of Holtby soon after and St. Louis has been trying to get rid of Bennington prior to this season.

Chicago won with Niemo. Pittsburgh won 2 cups with Matt Murray.

Most of those teams had the pieces before they had the goaltending. It’s going reverse for us but that’s ok. We will have to draft talented players to play in front of Wolf.

Doesnt' change your point but quick correction...

Binnington didn't start a game until January 7. Right about when the Blues got red hot. He was backup and got into two games in relief in December. He also wasn't used until about a month after Berube became coach on November 19 of that season.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I think that drop would be hard to stomach for the Kraken, but hypothetically speaking.

What if we have pick 7 and they have pick 5. I would likely want them to add in another pick in a later round but Pick 7 and Andersson for Pick 5 and say a 3rd rounder and you get a chance to draft a Misa. I would do that. They also get to stay in the top 8 and get a player for a season of suffering.

When has a team ever put an asset in the range of Anderson in place to move up 2 spots in the draft? It happens less than teams moving top 10 picks altogether.

[CanucksWorstNightmare]

Gage Goncalves Lands on waivers (TB) , perhaps this is a young (Just turned 23 in January) Center that Conroy will take a look at. Looks like he played in Everette with Dustin Wolf back in his junior days. Former 2nd rd pick 6'1 so decent size as well. Does anyone on here have more insight on this guy?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by CanucksWorstNightmare

Gage Goncalves Lands on waivers (TB) , perhaps this is a young (Just turned 23 in January) Center that Conroy will take a look at. Looks like he played in Everette with Dustin Wolf back in his junior days. Former 2nd rd pick 6'1 so decent size as well. Does anyone on here have more insight on this guy?

A quick look at this numbers and he looks like a Rooney replacement if we put in a claim, not much to get excited about. He is listed as a C played 24 games and has taken 0 faceoffs this year. Is he playing wing?

[traptor]

Originally Posted by CanucksWorstNightmare

Gage Goncalves Lands on waivers (TB) , perhaps this is a young (Just turned 23 in January) Center that Conroy will take a look at. Looks like he played in Everette with Dustin Wolf back in his junior days. Former 2nd rd pick 6'1 so decent size as well. Does anyone on here have more insight on this guy?

Seems like he might be worth taking a flyer on. Hasn't played any center at the NHL level though from the looks of it.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

When has a team ever put an asset in the range of Anderson in place to move up 2 spots in the draft? It happens less than teams moving top 10 picks altogether.

I would much rather use Andersson to move up in the draft, than send him for a package of a late 1st and a C prospect like Cowan and AHL filler Nick Robertston.

I am just using that package that Dreger used on the weekend.

It's hard to move up in the draft, so we can either move Andersson, or we could trade a bunch of picks to move up 2 spots.

You will probably have to look at the NFL maybe of what the cost would be if you value a #1C like a team would a QB. Multiple 1sts along with some 2nd and 3rd rounders.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by CanucksWorstNightmare

Gage Goncalves Lands on waivers (TB) , perhaps this is a young (Just turned 23 in January) Center that Conroy will take a look at. Looks like he played in Everette with Dustin Wolf back in his junior days. Former 2nd rd pick 6'1 so decent size as well. Does anyone on here have more insight on this guy?

Hard to gauge.

[Ba'alzamon]

Guys, don't worry. Misa isn't going to fall to 11 or 12 or whatever. Unless something changes drastically, he's going #1 overall.

He's a 6'1" center who skates like the wind, is strong defensively and on faceoffs, and is on pace for 126 points on a mid-as-hell OHL team.

I'll be astonished if he isn't the first player off the board.