American Politics 3.0 - Back to Brunch

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by dino7c

To all GOP supporters and both sides many sides types


THIS is why we make fun of you

Yeah, this comment touches on the most baffling part of all of this to me; if you're still a supporter, how do you not feel massively ashamed of that just by virtue of standing next to people like this? It's totally inconcievable in my mind that I would be standing up supporting someone, have this prophet come up and agree with me saying what they're saying, and not have myself thinking #### I am SO wrong.

[photon]

Because tribalism. No matter how bad my tribe is, the other tribe is evil incarnate and want to destroy everything so can't vote for them no matter what.

[ResAlien]

DeSantis being sued by the people he used for his reprehensible human trafficking scheme. What a piece of trash

https://apnews.com/article/boston-la...3d94c6d74eb9c8

Venezuelan migrants flown to the upscale Massachusetts island of Martha’s Vineyard sued Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and his transportation secretary Tuesday for engaging in a “fraudulent and discriminatory scheme” to relocate them.

The lawsuit, filed in federal court in Boston, alleges that the migrants were told they were going to Boston or Washington, “which was completely false,” and were induced with perks such as $10 McDonald’s gift certificates.

“No human being should be used as a political pawn,” said Ivan Espinoza-Madrigal, executive director of Lawyers for Civil Rights, which is seeking class-action status in the lawsuit filed on behalf of several migrants who were aboard last week’s flights and Alianza Americas, a network of advocacy groups.

And this is supposed to be the “good” Republican right? Yeah alright sure

[calculoso]

Man on a mission…

https://twitter.com/user/status/1572321149190606856

[JohnnyB]

Having to disclose contributions above $10K doesn't seem like it will solve the problem. How big of a difference will disclosures make? Hard limits on the contributions would be much, much more meaningful.

Also seems like it would be pretty easy to step around the restrictions on foreign entities for anyone who is very motivated.

[Duruss]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Having to disclose contributions above $10K doesn't seem like it will solve the problem. How big of a difference will disclosures make? Hard limits on the contributions would be much, much more meaningful.

Also seems like it would be pretty easy to step around the restrictions on foreign entities for anyone who is very motivated.

Are you letting perfect be the enemy of good?

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

And this is supposed to be the “good” Republican right?

Wait, since when is DeSantis the "good" Republican right? I mean I guess he's preferably to more Trump but that's the most "damned by faint praise" thing you could say about anyone.

I'm having trouble figuring out who the "good" Republican right would be... Romney?

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Wait, since when is DeSantis the "good" Republican right? I mean I guess he's preferably to more Trump but that's the most "damned by faint praise" thing you could say about anyone.

I'm having trouble figuring out who the "good" Republican right would be... Romney?

Romney, Kinzinger, and Cheney would be the only sane, somewhat decent Republicans I can think of. The rest of them all have their heads up Trump's arse.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by Duruss

Are you letting perfect be the enemy of good?

I guess it's better than nothing. That said, it seems like one of those things that makes a political statement without actually changing anything.

I mean, everyone knows that dude Barre Seid donated $1.6B recently. What difference does it make that people know that? Everyone already knows that money runs politics, and the money will still go to work.

[ResAlien]

Good Republican, right? I apologize I see how someone might not be able to pick up on that. The Republican right is obviously redundant. My mistake.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

https://twitter.com/user/status/1572004888678404098

The top two GOP candidates are now both under criminal investigation.

This sheriff is now reportedly receiving threats for investigating DeSantis and Abbott. Aren't they the party of law and order?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1572328244879187970

[Dion]

This is creepy!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1572253313219067904

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Wait, since when is DeSantis the "good" Republican right? I mean I guess he's preferably to more Trump but that's the most "damned by faint praise" thing you could say about anyone.

I'm having trouble figuring out who the "good" Republican right would be... Romney?

I don't entirely hate John Kasich.

[Matata]

Anyone who thinks they figured out who the "good" politicians are are getting taken for a ride. The system is set up so the good ones are always weeded out or subverted well before they're able to make any kind of change. Anyone near the top of the two-party system works for the donor class while doing the absolute minimum required to to sell the illusion that they're working for the people.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Matata

Anyone who thinks they figured out who the "good" politicians are are getting taken for a ride. The system is set up so the good ones are always weeded out or subverted well before they're able to make any kind of change. Anyone near the top of the two-party system works for the donor class while doing the absolute minimum required to to sell the illusion that they're working for the people.

Enough of your "both sides" BS. Only one side is actively working to take rights away from women and LGBTQ. Only one side is making plans to invalidate future elections if they don't win. Only one side has turned into a cult following an unstable man child. Whining about "both sides" being run by the elitest donor class is ridiculous considering there are basic human freedoms at risk of disappearing in the US

[calculoso]

New York attorney general files civil fraud lawsuit against Trump, some of his children and his business

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/21/polit...uit/index.html

- The New York state attorney general filed a sweeping lawsuit Wednesday against former President Donald Trump, three of his adult children and the Trump Organization, alleging they were involved in an expansive fraud lasting over a decade that the former President used to enrich himself.

In the more than 200-page lawsuit, Attorney General Letitia James, a Democrat, alleges the fraud touched all aspects of the Trump business, including its properties and golf courses. According to the lawsuit, the Trump Organization deceived lenders, insurers and tax authorities by inflating the value of his properties using misleading appraisals.

"These acts of fraud and misrepresentation were similar in nature, were committed by upper management at the Trump Organization as part of a common endeavor for each annual Statement, and were approved at the highest levels of the Trump Organization -- including by Mr. Trump himself," the lawsuit states.

[Yikes]

Originally Posted by Matata

Anyone who thinks they figured out who the "good" politicians are are getting taken for a ride. The system is set up so the good ones are always weeded out or subverted well before they're able to make any kind of change. Anyone near the top of the two-party system works for the donor class while doing the absolute minimum required to to sell the illusion that they're working for the people.

Well said,

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Good Republican, right? I apologize I see how someone might not be able to pick up on that. The Republican right is obviously redundant. My mistake.

My confusion was more about who is suggesting that DeSantis is in any way "good". The same people who like Trump seem to like him, but I'm not even seeing NeverTrumpers going "ah, there's a breath of fresh air, we're team Ron".

I don't entirely hate John Kasich.

Kasich doesn't count as a republican. You get to keep your emeritus spot even if you're no longer in office, but once you've spoken at the DNC you're off the team.

[calculoso]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1572611511750639618

https://twitter.com/user/status/1572611515634823169

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by calculoso

https://twitter.com/user/status/1572611511750639618

https://twitter.com/user/status/1572611515634823169

This really seems to follow what most people seemed to know about Trump well before he ran for president.

His whole lifestyle is built on exaggerating his wealth by putting his name on that and leveraging it to his advantage, and then putting planes, cars, houses, gold toilets on the business expenses to enjoy the spoils of luxury, but not actually ever building actual successful businesses.