2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

What do you think trading picks and prospects for Pettersson is? A future move?

Its both...A controlled asset for 7+ years for the prime of the players career. Vs. late firsts that you tell us are no good 10x a day.

[dissentowner]

From what has leaked out there we don't have the main piece that the Canucks want back anyhow, they want a young C as part of the return that can step in now.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I am expecting him to be good enough to keep us out of the bottom lottery teams. Right in that mushy middle.

Drafting 11-20 OA for several years during a rebuild is going to make it difficult to build contending team.

I don't know if Pettersson is the guy to chase or if anything needs to be done right now, but eventually they will probably have to tap into the trade market and top line centers aren't available every year via trade.

Shesterkin sure is keeping the Rangers in the mushy middle.

Do you think Wolf is better than him?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

From what has leaked out there we don't have the main piece that the Canucks want back anyhow, they want a young C as part of the return that can step in now.

So get a 3rd team involved...Buffalo also wanted a lot of things for Eichel

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Shesterkin sure is keeping the Rangers in the mushy middle.

Do you think Wolf is better than him?

They had 114 points last year, Eastern final

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

The Flames put up 7 on him easily. He went on a heater in the playoffs. Did the blues go into the playoffs with 2 natural centres ? Zero #1 D

Not the point I'm trying to make. You tried to say he was a bum first half of the season until they made a coaching change. Burube was already there.

Rampage: 11-4-0 2.08 GAA .927 SV%
Blues: 24-5-1 1.80 GAA .927 SV%

So he wasn't even a bum in the AHL.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Its both...A controlled asset for 7+ years for the prime of the players career. Vs. late firsts that you tell us are no good 10x a day.

So you’re ready to move Zary/26 Flames 1st/Mew or Misa for 27 year old Pettersson to come play with stars like Sharangovich ? 2 waiver wire pickups on our top 6 on defence.

What a contender.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Ha, okay.

He gets to chose out of the teams that give him an offer. If Vegas or Florida, for example, is where he wants to go and they don’t give him an offer, he’s SOL. Andersson won’t get to pick his team. He will get to pick his team out of what is available. He could very well end up in a number of markets that aren’t at/near the top of his wish list.

What about his wife? Kids? I suppose that doesn’t matter either. He’s going to be rich anyway, right?

You need to take a look at the UFA pool for 2026. I think Andersson is going to be the best RD available.

His competition for offers is...
WSH - Carlson (7 years older)
TBL - Raddysh (same age)
CBJ - Gudbranson (5 years older)
CHI - Brodie (6 years older)
COL - Manson (5 years older)
SJS - Liljegren (3 years younger)
ANA - Trouba (2 years older)
...

There simply is not a lot of competition for Andersson and what competition there is will certainly shrink as teams give extensions to the younger guys like Liljegren and Peeke.

If he hits the market in 2026, he will likely get an offer from every team. They may not all be 1st pairing dollars but it wouldn't be a surprise to see multiple teams sending him $7M+.

Even if you add the potential LD UFA, I do not think it reduces the number of offers he gets dramatically.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

So you’re ready to move Zary/26 Flames 1st/Mew or Misa for 27 year old Pettersson to come play with stars like Sharangovich ? 2 waiver wire pickups on our top 6 on defence.

What a contender.

lets hear your great plan

purposely throw games for 3 years and hope to win a lottery?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dino7c

They had 114 points last year, Eastern final

Thanks for making my point. Now they sit to draft 8th overall.

Goaltending is up and down yearly.

Even Kipper had off years.

We tried this with Iggy and Kipper and it doesn’t work.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Thanks for making my point. Now they sit to draft 8th overall.

Goaltending is up and down yearly.

Even Kipper had off years.

We tried this with Iggy and Kipper and it doesn’t work.

come on now...there is more to it in NY. They are certainly not mushy middle. Vegas has missed the playoffs recently. Panthers should have the year before last. 32 teams even contenders might be on the bubble some years the league has changed. Heck Vegas was a WC team and could have won the cup last season.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dino7c

lets hear your great plan

purposely throw games for 3 years and hope to win a lottery?

Sit still and build a team though the draft like a rebuild should. Once you have drafted enough talent and the team is ready you can make trades and free agency. Until that time comes keep trading guys out for picks and assets.

I know you don’t want a rebuild amd that ok. It’s not for everyone. Impatient management and fans is why Canadian teams fail

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by dino7c

lets hear your great plan

purposely throw games for 3 years and hope to win a lottery?

That’s the building culture part.

The tanker crowd is set that the only way to get a top line center is to purposely crater your organization for multiple years.

Using assets you have piled up or cap space in a trade isn’t an option.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Sit still and build a team though the draft like a rebuild should. Once you have drafted enough talent and the team is ready you can make trades and free agency. Until that time comes keep trading guys out for picks and assets.

I know you don’t want a rebuild amd that ok. It’s not for everyone. Impatient management and fans is why Canadian teams fail

I agree with your idea in principle, but what if sitting still just continues to keep us in the mushy middle?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Goriders

That’s the building culture part.

The tanker crowd is set that the only way to get a top line center is to purposely crater your organization for multiple years.

Using assets you have piled up or cap space in a trade isn’t an option.

You love your little drive by posts and don’t answer anything.

Snow is which team in year 1 of a rebuild cashed in picks and prospects for a 27 year old player ?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Shesterkin sure is keeping the Rangers in the mushy middle.

Do you think Wolf is better than him?

All I was saying was that it wasn't that people are running out of patience with a rebuild. I think a lot of people would be fine with a longer rebuild if it was likely that we would get some top draft picks out of it, It's looking less likely we can rely on that strategy, so some people want to pivot.

I'm not necessarily for or against changing strategies. I could see a case for it though if the right player becomes available.

[Goriders]

You’re probably not getting what you want through the draft. At least it’s not guaranteed.

What you say we need for all intence and purposes is available if you believe the rumour mill.

So you can wait 5 to 8 years and cross your fingers. Or grow a pair, think outside the box and use whatever assets you do have to pull the trigger now.

I already know what you would do. Have an empty building and lose your fanbase.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Sit still and build a team though the draft like a rebuild should. Once you have drafted enough talent and the team is ready you can make trades and free agency. Until that time comes keep trading guys out for picks and assets.

I know you don’t want a rebuild amd that ok. It’s not for everyone. Impatient management and fans is why Canadian teams fail

lol, this guy...nearly all teams fail in a 32 team league with one winner.

I am realistic with the current situation...you are on here crying about the team being too good all day every day. How does standing still make them worse than SJ and Chicago? I don't think you realize how hard it is to be that bad.

I want a BOLD team that doesn't sign retirement contracts or lose quality UFAs for nothing. IF a team is dumb enough to trade a #1 center in his prime go get it...upgrade your assets. If it doesn't work out you still have the most valuable asset in the trade.

Your biggest worry is that the Flames ROOKIE goalie is too good...like why bother? do you even enjoy hockey? Why am I wasting a Sunday arguing with you? haha

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

I agree with your idea in principle, but what if sitting still just continues to keep us in the mushy middle?

Teams have circled the Flames as a W. how many times as fans when we had a good team did we look at the schedule and circle easy wins. Those games usually turned into a grind and a loss because we took a team lightly.

That won’t be the case next season. Especially as we move guys out. We don’t have guys in the pipeline to come in next season and replace Andersson. If Backlund wants out we don’t have a replacement. Coleman is gone no replacement so yeah it will get worse.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Well having 1 isn’t enough and it’s not how contenders are built. It really is all Wolf keeping us from bottoming out. Coronato and Zary have made a lot of progress but we are also 28th in scoring.

It’s debatable if Pettersson is even that clear cut #1 guy or more or a Lindholm type that needs his wingers to prop him up. I don’t want to be the team that take the chance to fife that out.

Also teams in year 1 don’t make those trades. 21/22 Flames yup they went after Eichel.

Pettersson put up 102 points playing with Kuzmenko and Beauvillier. He played off and on that year with other studs like Mikhayev, Lane Pederson. Don’t think he needs players to be that good to put up numbers. He certainly never has had to have good players on his line to put up numbers before.