Your belief about September, 11th, 2001

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Achmed

If the government is so evil and lying to everyone making up a HUGE conspiracy, blowing up their own people in controlled demolitions destroying billions of dollars of real estate why do yo, Mickey, live in that society? Why don't you just pack your bags and go someplace that's not full of all thexe terrible people controling hundreds of millions of people through the media and live you life happy and peaceful?

Surely there's a place where your beliefs are welcome that's not wasting my tax dollars.

Welcome back puckluck.

[Achmed]

Originally Posted by pylon

Welcome back puckluck.

Puckluck got banned?

I've been reading these boards for awhile and know of who you are talking but I'm sorry I'm not Lebanise and I don't drink coffee so would never freak out at the girl in the drive through for "spilling" one all over my Blackberry. Especially because I have an iPhone.

Could never understand why the guy used a heart for an avatar either.

[CaptainCrunch]

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Achmed

Puckluck got banned?

I've been reading these boards for awhile and know of who you are talking but I'm sorry I'm not Lebanise and I don't drink coffee so would never freak out at the girl in the drive through for "spilling" one all over my Blackberry. Especially because I have an iPhone.

Could never understand why the guy used a heart for an avatar either.

I thought by your 1 day post count, and your brashness, you were him.

And CC

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[Achmed]

Originally Posted by pylon

I thought by your 1 day post count, and your brashness, you were him.

And CC

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1 day post count because I just signed up, not because I just discovered the board. My brashness with morons doesn't just exist on the internet. I love the posts though as they make the little troubles I have in my life seem so minute in comparrison to the pure hell it must be living under a tinfoil hat thinking big brother is watching your every move, even when you sleep, to decide if you are the next "victim" in their plot to trick the masses to your side and allow you to waltz into a 3rd world country guns blazzing and claiming mission accomplished while leaving your own country in the poor house.

As for CC I think pylon and my exchanges have been the least weird and most believable posts in this entire thread

[Beerfest]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

So that video proves nothing and there are reasonable explanations for everything. See http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm for example. What conspiracy theorists never seem to be able to explain is the government is so brilliant as to be able to get hundreds or thousands of people in on a conspiracy (including a bunch of Joe six packs and Susie lunch pails) set charges without anyone noticing but at the last minute forgot to set charges on every floor so it looked more like an explosion or never thought to worry that the scientific community might not believe the jet fuel story?

I fail to see the difference between this and some "truther" sites out there.

Also just because some people question the official story doesnt mean they believe every conspiracy to do with the topic.

[Beerfest]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Conspiracy theorists are ######s. Civil enough?

So the same could be said about people who believe everything the government tells them?

[jar_e]

Originally Posted by Beerfest

So the same could be said about people who believe everything the government tells them?

Isn't that an assumption though? Just cause I believe 9/11 means I believe everything from the government?

[Achmed]

Originally Posted by Beerfest

So the same could be said about people who believe everything the government tells them?

There's a difference between what the masses believe and the levels of rediculous bullspit conspiracy theorists go to dissprove the common knowledge and/or the blatantly obvious truth seen with your own eyes.

Anyone who truely believes 9/11 was a US government inside job and not the work of extremist terrorits needs to pack their bags and move to a small island in the middle of the ocean. Or seek the help of a GOOD mental health care proffessional.

[Beerfest]

Originally Posted by jar_e

Isn't that an assumption though? Just cause I believe 9/11 means I believe everything from the government?

No, If he doesnt believe everything the goverment tells him he belives in a conspiracy.

Simple as that.

[jar_e]

Originally Posted by Beerfest

No. If he doesnt believe everything the goverment tells him he belives in a conspiracy.

Simple as that.

So if I believe there were no WMD's in Iraq, that makes me a conspiracy theorist? Not a ####ing chance. There is logical thought and looking at the evidence presented to you and then also looking at that same evidence and presuming there's more.

[Beerfest]

Originally Posted by jar_e

So if I believe there were no WMD's in Iraq, that makes me a conspiracy theorist? Not a ####ing chance. There is logical thought and looking at the evidence presented to you and then also looking at that same evidence and presuming there's more.

You might want to check out the definition of conspiracy.

[jar_e]

Originally Posted by Beerfest

You might want to check out the definition of conspiracy.

con·spir·a·cy the·o·rynoun 
conspiracy theories, plural
A belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for an unexplained event

If you're making the assumption that governments acting on bad natured intelligence is a conspiracy theory 100% of the time, you're not having an open mind like you claim in this thread.

If you harp on having an open mind, why do you presume that anything the government says is wrong? You're a so called "truther" if you have that type of bias.

[Beerfest]

Originally Posted by jar_e

If you're making the assumption that governments acting on bad natured intelligence is a conspiracy theory 100% of the time, you're not having an open mind like you claim in this thread.

If you harp on having an open mind, why do you presume that anything the government says is wrong? You're a so called "truther" if you have that type of bias.

When did I say 100 percent of the time?

When did I say everything the government says is wrong?

If a governnent is lying to their citizens about a certain topic, at its simplest form it could be considered a conspiracy.

[J pold]

Beerfest just...just stop.

[boydo-66]

from the start to about 7 minutes isn't that the story of the Bond movie, Casino Royale

[stang]

Beerfest can you answer me this?

If the governent DID plan 9/11, and brought down the WTC. Why go through such an elaborate plan for the Pentagon?

Why divert the plane elsewhere, dispose of the people somehow, hide the plane then fire a missle at the pentagon? What purpose does that all serve VS just flying the damn plane into the pentagon?

[metallicat]

I still don't know why someone hasn't come forward saying they were involved in the cover up and planning of 9/11...OTHER than Osama Bin Laden himself.

[Gundo]

My belief is that some planes were hijacked by exploiting holes in security checks and balances in a country that had become complacent with its airport security and other screening processes. Those planes were flown into the Towers and they collapsed, how can a plane take down a tower?? How can it not? Has that scenario ever been played out before? Was there anything every saying that could not happen??

Yes there was warnings and intel leading up to those events that were ignored and shouldn't have been but after how many years of hearing and intercepting threats why should these ones have been treated so differently? If there was any 9/11 conspiracy the amount of people and objects needed to do so would have been on such a grand scale SOMEONE would have said something.

I think some people just have trouble digesting the truth and cant just see things for what they were and are.

[Achmed]

/\ Simple and rational thought.

I thought it VERY strange when going to LA in late Dec 2000 flying through Seattle that my entire family walked right between the 2 security stations into the secured area by mistake and no one stopped us and turned us around. Once we realized where we were we went back and checked in properly but the security was so lax it's obvious how the terrorsits were able to get themselves in. Takes a special kind of sicko to do what happened 10 years ago.

Takes another special kind of sicko to believe the US government did it all themselves.