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GirlySports · 10-09-2010, 07:25 PM

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Right now...11.

AZ is in a battle so if they lose it would be 10. Nevada and OK St. (and possibly Missouri) will be top 20 after today as well, so its up to 12 or 13.

Its gonna be a mess no matter what though.

Alabama will be ahead of some of them, but doesn't mean it'll stay the same automatically if all teams win out. South Carolina might suck making Alabama's loss worse and teams Nevada has beaten (for example) might play better.

It's all mathematical

I know you think the rankings are stupid and there's an argument for that. But since it is rankings, Alabama won't drop too far. I still say 6th.

wpgflamesfan · 10-09-2010, 07:28 PM

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Unreal how Fla. St. is dismantling Miami at home. Its like men versus boys.

And this Ore. St./AZ game is a beauty.

God I hope AZ wins. Boise doesn't need any more credibility then they already have.

Displaced Flames fan · 10-09-2010, 07:56 PM

Methinks Deanarius McGhee is a legitimate Walter Payton award candidate as a true freshman!

ResAlien · 10-09-2010, 08:13 PM

So that sucks for Michigan, did not capitalize on chances today at all.

So now that a mediocre #19 team beat #1 can we all agree that the SEC is overrated? Or do we say that the #19 team is super good and should be top ten now?

Montana Moe · 10-09-2010, 08:30 PM

I think we should have Oregon #1, Ohio State #2 (until they lose later this year), and 5-10 teams tied for #3.

wpgflamesfan · 10-09-2010, 08:50 PM

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I think we should have Oregon #1, Ohio State #2 (until they lose later this year), and 5-10 teams tied for #3.

I'm an Oregon fan and don't think they should be number 1 but i haven't watched Ohio State at all this year.

nik- · 10-09-2010, 09:02 PM

ok, who just saw the end of that LSU Florida game?

transplant99 · 10-09-2010, 09:19 PM

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ok, who just saw the end of that LSU Florida game?

No kidding...just wild. I dunno how Les Miles keeps getting away with this stuff, but it worked. How can an unbeaten LSU team now be ranked lower than Bama? bet it still happens though.

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I know you think the rankings are stupid and there's an argument for that. But since it is rankings, Alabama won't drop too far. I still say 6th.

Oh I have no doubt the morons who run polls will have bama way up there...but someone will have to explain how in any way, shape or form they can be ranked higher than the team that just spanked them. (if that happens and i believe it will). The whole thing is nothing but a farce.

transplant99 · 10-09-2010, 09:40 PM

USC defense blows it yet again....hard to believe this team thinks it among the best in the PAC 10...they arent.

moon · 10-09-2010, 09:42 PM

That personal foul call on the last drive was garbage.

Stanford probably is still able to win the game but it sucks to see refs try to determine the outcome of the game.

Either way Stanford is not a good football team and Harbaugh nowhere near to as good as a coach as he or others think.

JayP · 10-09-2010, 09:47 PM

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God I hope AZ wins. Boise doesn't need any more credibility then they already have.

Going into tonight:
Boise St. strength of schedule - 38th in the country
Oregen strength of schedule - 57th

Toledo was ranked 91st while Washington St. was ranked 116th so that gap is going to widen.

Obviously Oregon is going to have a higher SOS by the end of the year and their Pac-10 schedule, but it's pretty ridiculous to continuously bash Boise St's ranking when they've played better teams than the Ducks have thus far.

transplant99 · 10-09-2010, 09:52 PM

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That personal foul call on the last drive was garbage.

Stanford probably is still able to win the game but it sucks to see refs try to determine the outcome of the game.

Either way Stanford is not a good football team and Harbaugh nowhere near to as good as a coach as he or others think.

Dude...he hit the guy in the face...AFTER the whistle. It pure stupidity and a call that is made 100 times out of 100.

moon · 10-09-2010, 09:57 PM

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Dude...he hit the guy in the face...AFTER the whistle. It pure stupidity and a call that is made 100 times out of 100.

It was barely after the whistle, which was hard to hard at that time, and it wasn't like he blasted him in the face it was a soft touch with his hands.

I agree that it was pure stupidity by the ref to call it and considering the quality of reffing I wouldn't be surprised that they make a bad call like that 100 times out of 100.

transplant99 · 10-09-2010, 10:11 PM

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It was barely after the whistle,

Doesnt matter....the rule is the rule.

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and it wasn't like he blasted him in the face it was a soft touch with his hands

Doesnt matter....the rule is the rule.

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I agree that it was pure stupidity by the ref to call it and considering the quality of reffing I wouldn't be surprised that they make a bad call like that 100 times out of 100.

Ahhh yes...the "blame the ref" meme. How original of you.

Stanford won that game fair and square and have done so 3 of the last 4 years against SC. If harbaugh is a bad coach as you suggest, I wonder what that means Kiffin is. I think the guy is a joke myself and it may take 6-10 years for USC to recover from the end of the Carroll era, and the damage Kiffin does before he gets fired.

Love the Trojans...hate what they have become.

moon · 10-09-2010, 10:25 PM

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Ahhh yes...the "blame the ref" meme. How original of you.

Blame the ref? I said that Stanford likely would have won the game without the call. My issue is I hate when refs make at best a borderline call like that late in the game thinking that they are big men for doing it.

It wasn't clear that the play was over or that the whistle had gone, the player didn't do anything over the line and was barely late, if late at all.

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If harbaugh is a bad coach as you suggest, I wonder what that means Kiffin is. I think the guy is a joke myself and it may take 6-10 years for USC to recover from the end of the Carroll era, and the damage Kiffin does before he gets fired.

Harbaugh isn't bad, he just isn't great and certainly not close to the level that the media seem to love to portray him as.

Hard to tell with Kiffin as he hasn't coached that much to get a good sense of what he will be. He certainly gets a much worse rep than he deserves and actually did a decent job in Oakland with the crap team he had there.

This year and next are going to be a tough with players already admitting that they don't care (and really why should they) and the sanctions, but I don't see any indication that Kiffin will do damage to the program considering the two classes he has brought in during his two years recruiting as a HC.

GirlySports · 10-09-2010, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by transplant99

No kidding...just wild. I dunno how Les Miles keeps getting away with this stuff, but it worked. How can an unbeaten LSU team now be ranked lower than Bama? bet it still happens though.

Oh I have no doubt the morons who run polls will have bama way up there...but someone will have to explain how in any way, shape or form they can be ranked higher than the team that just spanked them. (if that happens and i believe it will). The whole thing is nothing but a farce.

This really bothers you eh?

Fine I'll explain it to you. The Flames just lost one game to the Oilers. If the NHL had polls and rankings would the Oilers jump over the Flames based on that one game after the Flames have beaten the Oilers 10 times in a row?

Does the #19 ranked tennis player beat Nadal and then jump him in the rankings? Tiger Woods didn't win a tournament all year and is still ranked #1 because of his past body or work.

South Carolina has one loss and Alabama has one loss. Alabama started the year higher in the polls so of course they would remain higher in the polls. This isn't a head-to-head tiebreaker.

Yes I think an undefeated LSU team could still be ranked lower than Alabama but it'll be close. Wouldn't surprise me either way. Maybe 6 and 7.

Again if you think that this is an absolutely stupid way to decide a championship then that's another story but this is how rankings work, it's a ladder.

Montana Moe · 10-09-2010, 11:15 PM

Rankings should not exist until at least the start of conference play, preferably not until week 6 or so. Just my opinion, but it would contribute toward getting the right teams in the BCS Championship.

LSU is a top 10 team, and I have no idea how. Maybe I follow the team too closely, but they're so incomplete I can't see how they are undefeated.

Oh, and Montana State is kickin' ass and takin' names!

GirlySports · 10-09-2010, 11:21 PM

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Rankings should not exist until at least the start of conference play, preferably not until week 6 or so. Just my opinion, but it would contribute toward getting the right teams in the BCS Championship.

LSU is a top 10 team, and I have no idea how. Maybe I follow the team too closely, but they're so incomplete I can't see how they are undefeated.

Oh, and Montana State is kickin' ass and takin' names!

Could work but did anyone important lose before conference play? Alabama would just schedule cupcakes to retain #1 going into conference play

I know basketball does that but it's really not as important because they have a big tournament at the end!

Montana Moe · 10-10-2010, 12:14 AM

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...I know basketball does that but it's really not as important because they have a big tournament at the end!

What a novel concept!

transplant99 · 10-10-2010, 06:29 AM

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The Flames just lost one game to the Oilers. If the NHL had polls and rankings would the Oilers jump over the Flames based on that one game after the Flames have beaten the Oilers 10 times in a row?

If the result was to go a long ways to determine who gets to play for NC game, hell yes they should. I mean why even have such a system when the play on the field/ice obviously doesnt determine anything? The "traditionalists" as I call them always say this sytem is just fine and even better than others because it makes every game of the season a do or die proposition...well if Bama stays ahead of the very team that just beat them, I say what a load of bunk that argument is.

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Does the #19 ranked tennis player beat Nadal and then jump him in the rankings? Tiger Woods didn't win a tournament all year and is still ranked #1 because of his past body or work.

These rankings are based on an entire years body of work and in the end have NO bearing on whether a guy plays for a championship, they still have to beat the opposition on the court/course. You know, prove they are better in competition, and not be voted in by some 300 lb cigar chewing bald sports writer or coach who truly may have never seen them play.

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South Carolina has one loss and Alabama has one loss. Alabama started the year higher in the polls so of course they would remain higher in the polls. This isn't a head-to-head tiebreaker

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Which is why the whole system is a joke. What a bunch of guys "think" may be true before a snap is taken, has more bearing on the final results than what actually happens on the football field. How is ANYONE OK with that? It's laughable.

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I know basketball does that but it's really not as important because they have a big tournament at the end!

Ding ding ding ding!!!