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Old 07-12-2024, 09:16 PM   #641
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Nielsen seems so much happier when he's calling big plays against the Stamps.
Of course, he's a huge Edmonton fanboy.
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Old 07-12-2024, 09:17 PM   #642
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I don't expect you to agree but I feel that way about the refs taking a TD off the board in the 1st on a missed PI in the endzone.

CFL reffing is bad. Really bad
The difference for me is on this missed call, it was reviewed in slow motion. Why bother having video review you miss something that obvious. But you are right, the officiating is awful in this league and has been for a very long time.
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You have to throw that away.
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Old 07-12-2024, 09:20 PM   #644
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Stamps have a much better team than I thought. And have deserved to win the last two games. But won't. Because of the bush league officiating. It's really too bad. But I'll still tune in because I love this stupid league. But God damn they are stupid.
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####, you know they are giving it to Olivera and they still can't get a stop. Brent Monson's defence sucks!!!
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Old 07-12-2024, 09:21 PM   #646
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Maier and Game winning Drives, Not confident.
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Old 07-12-2024, 09:22 PM   #647
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A classic CFL game. Tonnes of scoring. Bad coaching. Terrible reffing for both teams. Excitement everywhere.
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Old 07-12-2024, 09:24 PM   #649
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The difference for me is on this missed call, it was reviewed in slow motion. Why bother having video review you miss something that obvious. But you are right, the officiating is awful in this league and has been for a very long time.
It's not much fun to play "which call was worse", but the non-PI still ended In a FG for wpg. 4 point swing. If wpg is punting from their 6 instead of scoring a TD that's probably a 10 pt swing.

And yeah, one was reviewed and overturned to the wrong call. That's unacceptable
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Maier is trash!
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Stamps might be looking for reinforcements on defense. Judge, Howser and Vaughters all injured.
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We saw the good, the bad and the ugly from Jake in this game.
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We saw the good, the bad and the ugly from Jake in this game.
This is such a typical Jake game. Lights out some drives and wounded ducks the other.
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We saw the good, the bad and the ugly from Jake in this game.
I'm starting to get serious Hank/Frank vibes from Jake. He is just incredibly inconsistent.
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Stamps have a much better team than I thought. And have deserved to win the last two games. But won't. Because of the bush league officiating. It's really too bad. But I'll still tune in because I love this stupid league. But God damn they are stupid.
Blowing the play dead on a good catch, from an official nowhere near the catch was pathetic. O'shea said he challenged it stupidly in the heat of emotion because of how bad it was.
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Ok, I think its time that we accept that the CFL is just not a QB driven league like it used to be and we're not getting a lot of really really good young QB's coming up here, and there's not the same patience on both sides for developing QB's.



Maier is what he is at this point, a wildly inconsistent QB, with below average decision making and average at best mechanics. But what are the other options out there, beyond trying to run a run heavy thumper offence with Steven's at the helm. There aren't good QB's waiting in the shadows jumping at the chance of coming to Canada to make 80 cents on the dollar.


But I am going to go back to what I've said in arguments with coaches after a loss. If your offence puts up 37 points, turnovers and mistakes on offence shouldn't matter, you should win going away because your defence has to make stops in tough places. The Stamps showed again that the defence can't do it. And it doesn't come down to scheme or even play calling. It comes down to secondary play, and to individual players. You can't allow 450 yards of offence against and over 300 yards of passing against one of the poorer offences in the CFL period.



There were too many times last night where I saw blindingly poor coverage by the secondary, or DB's being completely lost or losing their coverage. Brent Monson needs to be going to his DB coach and saying two things 1. WTF man and 2. Is it talent or coaching dude, because if its talent its time to start looking, if its coaching you'd best fix it.







4:09 Williams was completely lost, It looks like the Bombers ran a pretty simple climb concept the inside receiver on the left side runs an occupy I think the next receiver out runs the climb, so either the safety has to call for a switch if its zone, or Williams has to stick to his coverage if its man. Neither the switch or the stick looks like it happened, and Williams who's on an Island loses his man behind him, then doesn't even look for the ball. Also Williams needs to take one look back but he never does, because there was a play to be made.




9:42 looks almost like man, I would hope that it wasn't man press, but frankly the DB on that sides turn technique was just poor and he was caught right off the start. If its man press then its a bad scheme call because the safety has to be aware of it, but it doesn't look like the safety was within 25 yards of it, and Collaros started the whole fracking thing down.



10:01 was a FFS moment, they literally ran the same play on the TD and then on the two point. And Monson got caught twice, because it looks like he ran the same dumb ass coverage scheme.


I remember coaching a game, and our opponents scored a TD on a long passing play, and I walked over to the DC and said, get ready for the next series because he's going to run it again. And the DC snorted at me and asked me why he would run it again right away, and I said "Because it worked and he's not going to give you time to adjust to it." And sure enough the next time the other team got the ball, they scored a 60 yard TD on the exact same play.
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I thought the game was today lol wtf.

What did I miss
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Ok, I think its time that we accept that the CFL is just not a QB driven league like it used to be and we're not getting a lot of really really good young QB's coming up here, and there's not the same patience on both sides for developing QB's.



Maier is what he is at this point, a wildly inconsistent QB, with below average decision making and average at best mechanics. But what are the other options out there, beyond trying to run a run heavy thumper offence with Steven's at the helm. There aren't good QB's waiting in the shadows jumping at the chance of coming to Canada to make 80 cents on the dollar.


But I am going to go back to what I've said in arguments with coaches after a loss. If your offence puts up 37 points, turnovers and mistakes on offence shouldn't matter, you should win going away because your defence has to make stops in tough places. The Stamps showed again that the defence can't do it. And it doesn't come down to scheme or even play calling. It comes down to secondary play, and to individual players. You can't allow 450 yards of offence against and over 300 yards of passing against one of the poorer offences in the CFL period.



There were too many times last night where I saw blindingly poor coverage by the secondary, or DB's being completely lost or losing their coverage. Brent Monson needs to be going to his DB coach and saying two things 1. WTF man and 2. Is it talent or coaching dude, because if its talent its time to start looking, if its coaching you'd best fix it.







4:09 Williams was completely lost, It looks like the Bombers ran a pretty simple climb concept the inside receiver on the left side runs an occupy I think the next receiver out runs the climb, so either the safety has to call for a switch if its zone, or Williams has to stick to his coverage if its man. Neither the switch or the stick looks like it happened, and Williams who's on an Island loses his man behind him, then doesn't even look for the ball. Also Williams needs to take one look back but he never does, because there was a play to be made.




9:42 looks almost like man, I would hope that it wasn't man press, but frankly the DB on that sides turn technique was just poor and he was caught right off the start. If its man press then its a bad scheme call because the safety has to be aware of it, but it doesn't look like the safety was within 25 yards of it, and Collaros started the whole fracking thing down.



10:01 was a FFS moment, they literally ran the same play on the TD and then on the two point. And Monson got caught twice, because it looks like he ran the same dumb ass coverage scheme.


I remember coaching a game, and our opponents scored a TD on a long passing play, and I walked over to the DC and said, get ready for the next series because he's going to run it again. And the DC snorted at me and asked me why he would run it again right away, and I said "Because it worked and he's not going to give you time to adjust to it." And sure enough the next time the other team got the ball, they scored a 60 yard TD on the exact same play.
Except for when one of those turnovers are a pick 6. There's literally nothing the defense can step up to stop that.

Defense did not have a great night, but Maier was atrocious at times and none moreso than that throw for the TD the wrong way. Bad decision followed by really bad execution.

Literally the difference in the game as it turns out.
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One of the more exciting games in some time. Lots of turnovers and big plays. Unfortunately the Stampeders defense especially the secondary laid an egg. WR's continue to get behind the secondary for big plays and tackling in general has been poor. Also back to back weeks where Maier had a chance for a game winning drive and he makes another bad decision. This time holding on to the ball way too long taking a back breaking sack. Had he simply dumped it off to the RB the Stamps probably gain 8+ yards but he was looking deep despite the pocket collapsing around him. His decision making at times is just terrible as both interceptions should never have been thrown as neither had a chance. As Captain said when you score 37 points your defense should be able to make a few stops but let's not forget the offense spotted the Bombers 13 points with turnovers.

They are some signs that this team may be a slightly better team than last season's 6 win team but just marginally. Probably going to finis 8-10 and miss the crossover if they don't start cleaning things up on both sides of the ball.
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Our defence has sucked ever since Monson took over. We made a huge mistake and should have promoted Mace.

Dave is way too loyal. We need to start tossing coordinators as well. We have talent the scheme sucks.
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