Flames' Pride Night slotted for March 28 vs. LA

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by bluejays

If this thread continues can we at least stop with the name calling? The labelling as well. Getting a little tiresome.

Name calling (bigot, homophobe, racist, Islamophobe etc) are tacit admissions that you have a weak argument. If someone has a logically consistent point, name calling is unnecessary. It's a last resort in an attempt to defend totalitarian ideologies. Smart people see right through the ploy of course. People think words like racist and bigot are somehow magic. But whatever impact they had in the past they have lost. Consistent overuse has rendered those words meaningless in the context of these discussions.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

What if I told you I quietly became a mod again?

Don't worry I didn't.

Or did I...

Haha I'd be happy with that! Just not sure you would be by the sounds of it...

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

The mods don't ban people for spreading dangerous misinformation, hate and outright racism and homophobia.

And we're all better for it. The forum sure is.

But don't worry, we ban people for insulting other members and have a swear filter to protect us. That keeps everything civil.

Barely better than twitter but fall short on the moral high ground to reddit. Something we can all be proud of.

So that is a yes? That sounds like a yes.

My read here is on one side there are posters saying that there are designated boards on the forum for political conversations and there are boards designated for hockey talk. If you want to talk politics or hockey, you know where to go. And if you aren't interested in one or the other, you can just steer clear. And these posters are seeing more and more politics are bleeding into the hockey talk boards.

On the other side, posters are telling posters in the first group to just avoid those threads. Which is fair, I mean it is the same principle as sticking to specific boards. But more and more posters are expressing political views in threads that have no obvious political connotation at all. Which makes avoiding this kind of discourse increasingly difficult. But this side goes further. In addition to just telling the first group to avoid such threads, they also advocate banning posters who express political views they don't like. Herein lies the real problem. If such political discourse can show up anywhere and any engagement could be construed as a bannable offense, we've in effect poisoned the well.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by cannon7

So that is a yes? That sounds like a yes.

My read here is on one side there are posters saying that there are designated boards on the forum for political conversations and there are boards designated for hockey talk. If you want to talk politics or hockey, you know where to go. And if you aren't interested in one or the other, you can just steer clear. And these posters are seeing more and more politics are bleeding into the hockey talk boards.

On the other side, posters are telling posters in the first group to just avoid those threads. Which is fair, I mean it is the same principle as sticking to specific boards. But more and more posters are expressing political views in threads that have no obvious political connotation at all. Which makes avoiding this kind of discourse increasingly difficult. But this side goes further. In addition to just telling the first group to avoid such threads, they also advocate banning posters who express political views they don't like. Herein lies the real problem. If such political discourse can show up anywhere and any engagement could be construed as a bannable offense, we've in effect poisoned the well.

Yes I think you're a racist homophobic piece of #### and yes our forum (and planet) will be better off when human trash like you die out.

And yes, it is embarrassing that CP welcomes people like you to spread your toxic views. It represents tacit support from the mods/owner of the site.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Yes I think you're a racist homophobic piece of #### and yes our forum (and planet) will be better off when human trash like you die out.

And yes, it is embarrassing that CP welcomes people like you to spread your toxic views. It represents tacit support from the mods/owner of the site.

This is why we can't have nice things.

But maybe I'm the one overreacting?

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

And yes, it is embarrassing that CP welcomes people like you to spread your toxic views. It represents tacit support from the mods/owner of the site.

I'm not sure I can find the words to express what a ridiculous, asinine statement the bolded is, so I guess ridiculous and asinine will have to do.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Thanks. That's how I know I'm on the right track.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

If all you want is hockey talk then maybe stick to hockey talk? No one’s forcing you to continue dragging this out.

thank you

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Thanks. That's how I know I'm on the right track.

If the track you're trying to get on is to defeat a very, very strong field for the award of "silliest post in the thread", sure.

[Yeah_Baby]

tOtAlItArIaN iDeOlOgIeS

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Yes I think you're a racist homophobic piece of #### and yes our forum (and planet) will be better off when human trash like you die out.

And yes, it is embarrassing that CP welcomes people like you to spread your toxic views. It represents tacit support from the mods/owner of the site.

If there are specific posts that you wish to bring forward we have a button that does exactly that.

Have you done that?

I haven't been in this topic since the day of the game, but just entered now wondering how it can still be at the top of the board.

Would appreciate you not implying my support for anything without knowing if I've even seen it.

Thanks.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Bingo

If there are specific posts that you wish to bring forward we have a button that does exactly that.

Have you done that?

I haven't been in this topic since the day of the game, but just entered now wondering how it can still be at the top of the board.

Would appreciate you not implying my support for anything without knowing if I've even seen it.

Thanks.

Hey side question since you're here, is there a list of mods somewhere? Just realized earlier that since Jiri left I have zero clue who they even are apart from Kootenay

[Bandwagon Surfer]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

Name calling (bigot, homophobe, racist, Islamophobe etc) are tacit admissions that you have a weak argument. If someone has a logically consistent point, name calling is unnecessary. It's a last resort in an attempt to defend totalitarian ideologies. Smart people see right through the ploy of course. People think words like racist and bigot are somehow magic. But whatever impact they had in the past they have lost. Consistent overuse has rendered those words meaningless in the context of these discussions.

Wait, so now the dictionary is part of the conspiracy out to get you?

Those are not name calling, they are words that in the English language have meaning.


homophobe - noun
a person characterized by homophobia
irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or gay people


To tie it back to this thread topic: Reimer though his actions demonstrated such an extreme aversion to gay people that he refused to participate is saying that everyone is welcome in hockey. So to call him a homophobe is in no way name calling, it is using the proper word in the English language to describe his actions.

This is no different than calling someone who jogs a jogger. If I did not want to be called a jogger, I would stop jogging. If I instead went on tirades about how it is name calling to say that I am a jogger and demand that people and the English language change, then I would also fit the definition of ignorant (lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified).

[MRCboicgy]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Hey side question since you're here, is there a list of mods somewhere? Just realized earlier that since Jiri left I have zero clue who they even are apart from Kootenay

It's at the bottom of each forum page - and it's been weird as it's never shown Mango, TC, or I as Moderators for the past 8 years - I remember Photon looked into that back in the day and couldn't figure it out.



https://forum.calgarypuck.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6 scroll

[Reggie Dunlop]

I hope they have one every year.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by MRCboicgy

It's at the bottom of each forum page - and it's been weird as it's never shown Mango, TC, or I as Moderators for the past 8 years - I remember Photon looked into that back in the day and couldn't figure it out.



https://forum.calgarypuck.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6 scroll

Ah, thanks. Probably because VB3 is a thousand years old. Not that I blame Bingo for not wanting to upgrade, stupid price and I never got used to the newer versions

I totally forgot about ken! I know he's still around but doesn't post as much, always liked him

[manwiches]

Some of you need to get laid. Might make you less angry.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by manwiches

Some of need to get laid. Might make you less angry.

Don't be ridiculous. Most guys on here are married.



Getting laid is out of the question.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon Surfer

Wait, so now the dictionary is part of the conspiracy out to get you?

Those are not name calling, they are words that in the English language have meaning.


homophobe - noun
a person characterized by homophobia
irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or gay people


To tie it back to this thread topic: Reimer though his actions demonstrated such an extreme aversion to gay people that he refused to participate is saying that everyone is welcome in hockey. So to call him a homophobe is in no way name calling, it is using the proper word in the English language to describe his actions.

This is no different than calling someone who jogs a jogger. If I did not want to be called a jogger, I would stop jogging. If I instead went on tirades about how it is name calling to say that I am a jogger and demand that people and the English language change, then I would also fit the definition of ignorant (lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified).

In this context, how these words are being used are a form of Godwin's law.

Godwin's law, short for Godwin's law (or rule) of Nazi analogies, is an Internet adage asserting that as an online discussion grows longer (regardless of topic or scope), the probability of a comparison to Nazis or Adolf Hitler approaches 1.

Promulgated by the American attorney and author Mike Godwin in 1990, Godwin's law originally referred specifically to Usenet newsgroup discussions. He stated that he introduced Godwin's law in 1990 as an experiment in memetics. Later it was applied to any threaded online discussion, such as Internet forums, chat rooms, and comment threads, as well as to speeches, articles, and other rhetoric where reductio ad Hitlerum occurs.

there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that, when a Hitler comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever made the comparison loses whatever debate is in progress. This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's law.

[Boumsalot]

Only thing I'm proud of is not running over that sad schmuck outside my house on the way to get smokes.