DC Capitol Riot & Subsequent Fallout Thread (Jan 2021)

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

We know there's a good number on the board. And I'm sure they're not all bad apples nor identify with the MAGA protest crowd, but I would question their morals and overall perception of reality if they are still on his bandwagon after the last two months, yes.

people still falling for Trumps BS are straight up dumb

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

We know there's a good number on the board. And I'm sure they're not all bad apples nor identify with the MAGA protest crowd, but I would question their morals and overall perception of reality if they are still on his bandwagon after the last two months, yes.

I’m sure we have all lost family over the last 4 years/two months

[HockeyIlliterate]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

The cabinet has the leverage here, they should be able to coax a resignation out in exchange for some pardons. Removing him, while obviously necessary, would likely lead to more violence, so a resignation should be the goal.

Nothing is going to happen tonight. Not a resignation, not an invocation of the 25th amendment, not an impeachment.

Maybe tomorrow, but not tonight.

And if it doesn’t happen tomorrow, it likely will never happen.

[djsFlames]

They ever heard of airpods?

Clearly living in the stone age.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Cappy

I’m sure we have all lost family over the last 4 years/two months

I have chosen to never talk to one of my cousins again. Maybe even 3 of them. I'll likely never make any family reunions with my family anymore to just outright avoid those three. It infuriates me the conspiracies and lies that they believe and spread about as absolute truth.

[dino7c]

some of these speeches from the senate session are amazing

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

"Riots are bad!....Except for the good ones!"

Yes, this is true, you and I wouldnt have the vote if it wasnt for good riots, the Civil War in Britain, 1776 in what became the US, 1965 equal rights act was stalled in congress by the GOP (huge surprise eh!!) until riots in Detroit and LA forced Congress to reassess, no voting right or workers rights have ever been secured without riots, I would like it if we lived in a world where Kings and Lords gave up their power without being forced by riot and unrest but we dont, there are riots that are good, that come from a noble cause and effect change for the good even if the process is bloody and unfair.

If the unrest of the last couple of years leads to black men not being shot out of hand by the police then they will be good riots, a few burnt 7/11's and a Wendy's is a small price to pay for that, I grant you it probably wont but it might.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

When I'm agreeing with Rand Paul, and Lindsey Graham I need to go to bed. My head hurts.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

When I'm agreeing with Rand Paul, and Lindsey Graham I need to go to bed. My head hurts.

thats how bat#### crazy Trumps garbage is...even these guys can't support it

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Yes, this is true, you and I wouldnt have the vote if it wasnt for good riots, the Civil War in Britain, 1776 in what became the US, 1965 equal rights act was stalled in congress by the GOP (huge surprise eh!!) until riots in Detroit and LA forced Congress to reassess, no voting right or workers rights have ever been secured without riots, I would like it if we lived in a world where Kings and Lords gave up their power without being forced by riot and unrest but we dont, there are riots that are good, that come from a noble cause and effect change for the good even if the process is bloody and unfair.

If the unrest of the last couple of years leads to black men not being shot out of hand by the police then they will be good riots, a few burnt 7/11's and a Wendy's is a small price to pay for that, I grant you it probably wont but it might.

Well, we obviously agree on the use of violence against innocents to attain political goals.

What I find strange is that people think that they will be the only ones to use such tools.

[djsFlames]

There has to be a reason why they were so susceptible to believing the misinformation though. People don't latch on to that because they're just inherently awful. There has to be a reason why they find what these people are saying to be so emotionally compelling, because let's face it, this is driven by anger and a sense of oppression moreso than by intellect.

So what in their upbringing impressed such beliefs in them about the world/others that would eventually lead them down this path? Because people only understand the world from their level of perception, and their influences may differ greatly from ours.

It's worth considering I think before shutting out family forever. Divisiveness and lack of compassion in a lot of ways is what landed us here in the first place. Should we not at least attempt to take a higher road, because we know better?

(And I say this about pro-trump peers/family that are on that side ideologically, but not on board with the violence today.)

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

Well, we obviously agree on the use of violence against innocents to attain political goals.

What I find strange is that people think that they will be the only ones to use such tools.

Call me weird but I think there is a moral difference between violence to try and prevent democracy and violence to try and stop people being gunned down in cold blood, I also think there is a difference between punching someone out as you try to steal his car and punching someone out because you are trying to stop someone from stealing your car.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by photon

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...onight/617576/

By David Frum. His mom was on As it Happens for years.

[dino7c]

93-6 vote on Arizona in the Senate lol

in favor of reality if you are wondering

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dino7c

93-6 vote on Arizona in the Senate lol

in favor of reality if you are wondering

I know it could set a bad precedent but impeach the 6 who voted no

[KootenayFlamesFan]

It will never happen (well, I really highly doubt it) but the fact they're even bringing up the 25th just shows you where we are today, what a complete disaster a mentally unwell Trump is for that country.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1347017647976632321

[RedMan12]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I'm not asking for more deaths, I'm saying there has to be consequences for what happened today. Arresting some people weeks or months or years later doesn't mean anything today with 2 weeks of Trump left and now his supporters realize if there's enough of them they can break into government buildings with little to no consequences. This was terrorism. You need to arrest people on the spot, not open the door for them and let them leave on their terms and worry about it later. That's very dangerous, and frankly, just completely messed up.

America was founded by terrorism against the British Crown.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by RedMan12

America was founded by terrorism against the British Crown.

This ain't the Boston Tea Party but throw all in with Trump and go form a country somewhere

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by dino7c

93-6 vote on Arizona in the Senate lol

in favor of reality if you are wondering

After all that happened today, 6 Republicans still don't care.

[RedMan12]

Originally Posted by Bonded

This ain't the Boston Tea Party but throw all in with Trump and go form a country somewhere

I am sure it was not a Tea Party to the British either.