06-17-2017, 02:13 PM
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#641
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: On Jessica Albas chest
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Originally Posted by StrykerSteve
Elliott's had better stats than Smith for basically their entire careers. From a purely stats perspective, Elliott is near the top of the league over the past five years.
But he's played for the Blues and Flames while Smith has toiled in Arizona.
This isn't about the stats, it's about the consistency that Smith has shown over a long stretch, on a bad team.
He made Team Canada. He was the starter at the World Championships. He's been the MVP on a bad team.
I'm excited to see what he can do in Calgary.
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Ya should of used body of work instead of stats in my argument but we're on the same page.
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06-17-2017, 02:16 PM
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#642
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Calgary via Palm Desert
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Don't know why we couldn't Pony up for Marc Andre Fleury??? UGH. What a waste
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06-17-2017, 02:16 PM
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#643
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by TheOnlyBilko
Don't know why we couldn't Pony up for Marc Andre Fleury??? UGH. What a waste
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Uhhh, cause he waived his nmc only for Vegas.
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06-17-2017, 02:17 PM
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#644
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Calgary via Palm Desert
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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
If you say it one more time The Trash Beast will be summoned!
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It already was today, his name is Brad Treliving ugh
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06-17-2017, 02:17 PM
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#645
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Ass Handler
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Okotoks, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOnlyBilko
Don't know why we couldn't Pony up for Marc Andre Fleury??? UGH. What a waste
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Because Fleury has a NMC and doesn't want to play in Calgary. If you're going to come on here and start bitching and moaning, at least try to catch up to current events first.
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06-17-2017, 02:17 PM
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#646
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by getbak
What would suck is if Gillies/Rittich/Parsons steal the starter's job partway through the season and that's the reason the Flames make the playoffs and have to give up a second rounder.
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Man that would be terrible if one of the prospects became a legitimate number 1 goalie AND we make the playoffs too!?!?!
That would be a disaster! Someone better call the Paw Patrol.
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06-17-2017, 02:18 PM
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#647
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOnlyBilko
Don't know why we couldn't Pony up for Marc Andre Fleury??? UGH. What a waste
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Pittsburgh wasn't going to trade him and then lose a guy like Dumoulin in the Expansion Draft.
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06-17-2017, 02:18 PM
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#648
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Could Care Less
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Originally Posted by TheOnlyBilko
It already was today, his name is Brad Treliving ugh
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Are you drunk?
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06-17-2017, 02:18 PM
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#649
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Calgary via Palm Desert
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Originally Posted by Jiggy
Uhhh, cause he waived his nmc only for Vegas.
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Do we know this 100%? From what I understand we do not. We know he waived his NMC to be exposed in the expansion draft, yes, but we don't know 100% he said no about got to Calgary
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06-17-2017, 02:19 PM
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#650
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Franchise Player
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There were rumours that Hickey was never going to sign.
So its a 2nd for Smith at 75% of his salary (not making the playoffs is not an option). So this time next year we'll know if it was a good trade.
If Rittich or Gillies steals the job from him that's OK too.
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06-17-2017, 02:19 PM
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#651
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Ass Handler
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Okotoks, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOnlyBilko
Do we know this 100%? From what I understand we do not. We know he waived his NMC to be exposed in the expansion draft, yes, but we don't know 100% he said no about got to Calgary
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Yes, we know it. He has a list of teams he cannot be traded to and Calgary is one of them.
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06-17-2017, 02:20 PM
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#652
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Jordan!
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Originally Posted by ResAlien
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He's kind of a head case too. Not sure how the pressure in a Canadian market is going to help.
I would've been fine losing him in the expansion draft for nothing.
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06-17-2017, 02:21 PM
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#653
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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At first I hated this trade. After reflecting on it, I don't mind it.
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06-17-2017, 02:22 PM
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#654
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Calgary via Palm Desert
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Originally Posted by StrykerSteve
Yes, we know it. He has a list of teams he cannot be traded to and Calgary is one of them.
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Do you have a link to said list? From what I heard Kelly Hrudey was trying to sell the finer points about Calgary to MAF during the finals
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06-17-2017, 02:22 PM
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#655
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOnlyBilko
Yup Flames and Treliving went DUMPSTER DIVING & pulled out Mike Smith. What a joke. We have a good core but we not going anywhere with MIKE SMITH. I just shake my head and kiss the season good bye. Not impressed. I honestly would rather have Chad Johnson.
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I dont know about that, teams who play backups for a full season (See: Canuck, Vancouver: Auld, Alex) dont tend to do well overall.
I dont get the anger here. I actually think this is a great deal. Treliving papered over some cracks getting a decent starting goaltender for few assets.
The rights to a backup goaltender and prospect that has been hesitant to sign as well as a conditional pick in exchange for a starting goaltender with salary retained.
He bought our kids 2 years to get it together and steal the job for a fairly reasonable price.
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06-17-2017, 02:23 PM
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#656
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StrykerSteve
Yes, we know it. He has a list of teams he cannot be traded to and Calgary is one of them.
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Right, and he waived only for Vegas.
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06-17-2017, 02:23 PM
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#657
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First Line Centre
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I love how so many people here can predict the future.
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06-17-2017, 02:25 PM
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#658
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Paradise Island, Bahamas
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After some reflection and reading through the reactions on various websites I am okay with this trade. Smith was not my first choice in the list from the poll. I had him at 8 or 9. But I can deal with it.
Here is some of my thinking.
1 Maybe this is not over. What the Flames have now is a goalie they will protect in the Expansion draft. No one believed it would be McCollum. This summer goalies are in play more than they ever have been. There are still possibilities that someone else opens camp as our probable starter.
2. One thing I didn't want was a UFA with a lot of term a la Bishop. Older goalies with lots of term left are hard to trade. There are some good arguments against the stopgap goalie but I believe the Flames are at the opening of their window, not actually in it quite yet. Next summer we are fully in it. And I believe Gillies and/or Parsons are going to be the guy once the window is fully open. Therefore a stopgap is appropriate.
3 Getting Arizona to take 25% is good GMing.
4 Johnson, who I would have been fine with resigning (max 2 years at 2.5 per) is a UFA and therefore barely still an asset so no problem with him being included. (Side note I would like to see more local guys on the team but whatever)
5 Hickey. I'm a big Hickey supporter and sorry to see him go. Those that say he wasn't going to sign have no proof. But I can't deny there are indications of such a thing. Trading him removes that stress and I won't miss all the posts that would have happened this year regarding it. Plus it is fair to say that his progression has been a little concerning. He has been passed by a few prospects and may never have panned out.
6 The 2nd rounder. I call it a 2nd because I am very confident we will make the playoffs. Would rather have kept it but teams in the window have less draft picks (except Chicago but only because they've had so many massive cap-crunch player selloffs) fact of life.
We move on. With Smith or without I still think we're moving up.
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06-17-2017, 02:25 PM
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#659
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Ass Handler
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Okotoks, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOnlyBilko
Do you have a link to said list? From what I heard Kelly Hrudey was trying to sell the finer points about Calgary to MAF during the finals
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The entire list hasn't been leaked, but I believe it was Mackenzie that mentioned Calgary, specifically.
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06-17-2017, 02:26 PM
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#660
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Calgary via Palm Desert
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
I dont know about that, teams who play backups for a full season (See: Canuck, Vancouver: Auld, Alex) dont tend to do well overall.
I dont get the anger here. I actually think this is a great deal. Treliving papered over some cracks getting a decent starting goaltender for few assets.
The rights to a backup goaltender and prospect that has been hesitant to sign as well as a conditional pick in exchange for a starting goaltender with salary retained.
He bought our kids 2 years to get it together and steal the job for a fairly reasonable price.
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I'm just not impressed in the slightest. Everyone on twitter is laughing at us. I don't see us going anywhere with Smith. Well at least the 2018 draft has that superstar russian coming. Sergachevs younger brother I believe. Would be great to draft him in 2018
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