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View Poll Results: How do you feel about the Baertschi trade
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Flames did very well.
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Flames did okay considering the circumstances
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Vancouver did okay.
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Vancouver fleeced he Flames.
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03-02-2015, 05:29 PM
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RGI = Ricardo's Grit Index or something like that. It's basically bigger = better.
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03-02-2015, 05:30 PM
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#642
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Yeah but that chart basically says that every year that goes past they lose a year of waiver ineligibility? 18+5=23, 19+4=23, 20+3=23, no?
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21+3=24.
22+3=25.
You just had to go 1 further to see the point of the chart.
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03-02-2015, 05:30 PM
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What the hell did I miss? What the hell is RGI, what does it stand for and why do we care?
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Ricardo grit index or something. Not to be mistaken with Ricardo the economist
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03-02-2015, 05:32 PM
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#644
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no, that has to do with age when you sign your contract and NHL games under your belt. Here's the table:
Sven signed when he was 19, so his 4 years of being waiver exempt are up. |
Still don't get why Feaster blew a year of his waiver eligibility just to get him 20 games in the NHL in 12-13. If Bartschi had played 10 games instead of 20 that year he would've been exempt from waivers until Oct. 2016 (or until he hit the GP threshold).
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03-02-2015, 05:32 PM
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#645
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Originally Posted by Hackey
Maata or Girgensons would look pretty good in our rebuild right now as well. Sieloff and Jankowski are sure making an impact.
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so what, so would a some other players but we have sieloff and jankowski, lets see how they develop before writing them off
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03-02-2015, 05:35 PM
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Ricardo looks at everything with absolute blinders on. He has a linear thought train and draws long, drawn out conclusions based on standards he's completely made up and then acts like they're universally accepted truths.
That would be bad enough on it's own, but if anyone calls him on it he replies with a smug, know-it-all dismissive tone.
Never seen someone that far out on a limb with the ability to act like they're some kind of authority. It's astounding.
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03-02-2015, 05:38 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
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Originally Posted by opendoor
Still don't get why Feaster blew a year of his waiver eligibility just to get him 20 games in the NHL in 12-13. If Bartschi had played 10 games instead of 20 that year he would've been exempt from waivers until Oct. 2016 (or until he hit the GP threshold).
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the 20 games in 12-13 have nothing to do with his waiver eligibility. The important thing is when he actually signed his ELC. Baertschi signed his contract right after the draft - he was 18 at the time, but because of his late birthday (he turned 19 before December 31), it counts as him being 19 years old. So that means him being waiver exempt from 4 years or 160 NHL games, whatever comes first.
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03-02-2015, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by #-3
21+3=24.
22+3=25.
You just had to go 1 further to see the point of the chart.
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Yes I can do math. If a player isn't signed by age 20 though (exception being NCAA players) they re-enter the draft. Meaning that all players drafted in 2011, signed a contract by 2013 and are waiver eligible in 2015-2016?
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03-02-2015, 05:45 PM
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Too bad Sven didn't work out he once appeared to be the next great Flames winger. Obviously having Johnny develop as he has softened the blow of losing this asset. Also getting a top 50 pick in a deep draft is a nice consolation. The pick will also be valuable currency to pair with our cap space for potential trades this summer.
Sven was ruined by that 5 game callup and Feaster hype train. He then seemed to develop an entitled attitude and never clicked with Hartley and the new regime. I do fear he is a player that needed a change of scenery and will do well in Vancouver
Also I do think Vancouver is making some nice moves in their retool. Moving Kesler got them younger and added a good prospect in McCann. They basically traded 30 year old Dman for 22 year old Vey. With Vey, Horvat, Baertschi, Kassian,Sbisa, Tanev they have some decent roster players under 25 as well as Shinkaurak, McCann, and Virtanen as prospects they have turned it around quickly with some decent young forwards.
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03-02-2015, 05:46 PM
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Don't let your ankles snap jumping off the bandwagon.... you'll definitely fit in in blue and green.
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03-02-2015, 05:47 PM
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As much as it hurts to be essentially giving up on Sven, based on his play this year, I can't see him ever making the flames as a full-time NHLer. Seeing the return TB got, I think a second is fair value as Sven is a top six player or really not worth having in your lineup. Good luck to him but I'd bet he is back to Europe in a couple of seasons.
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03-02-2015, 05:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheerio
Yes I can do math. If a player isn't signed by age 20 though (exception being NCAA players) they re-enter the draft. Meaning that all players drafted in 2011, signed a contract by 2013 and are waiver eligible in 2015-2016?
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no, not automatically. Markus Granlund, for instance, will only be waiver eligible in 2016-17. He signed in 2013 when he was 20, so he's exempt from waivers for three seasons which takes him to 2016. Unless he hits 160 NHL games first, of course.
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03-02-2015, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by devo22
no, not automatically. Markus Granlund, for instance, will only be waiver eligible in 2016-17. He signed in 2013 when he was 20, so he's exempt from waivers for three seasons which takes him to 2016. Unless he hits 160 NHL games first, of course.
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Since Granlund was born in 1993 correct? So players born in 1992 are waiver eligible next season and players born in 1993 have to wait another year?
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03-02-2015, 06:00 PM
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Could Care Less
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Originally Posted by savardandjokinen
New Canucks fan on CP, I hate to say it
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You'll fit in well! 
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03-02-2015, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Table 5
I believe RGI is a fancy-stat that Ricardo invented, that only he ever refers to.
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Does the 'R' stand for 'Ricardo?' Because that be hilarious but also lame.
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03-02-2015, 06:07 PM
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Worth pointing out that this trade has been getting the most attention on HF today, but I assume that it's mainly due to being between two Canadian teams.
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03-02-2015, 06:08 PM
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Ricardo's posts are fine to read for the most part, but as soon as RGI comes up my head is just like
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03-02-2015, 06:10 PM
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Quote:
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I believe RGI is a fancy-stat that Ricardo invented, that only he ever refers to or understands.
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fixed
Last edited by Textcritic; 03-02-2015 at 11:08 PM.
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03-02-2015, 06:13 PM
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Had an idea!
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So three 2nd round picks in a VERY deep draft. I like it a lot.
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03-02-2015, 06:13 PM
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The Lightning got their entire 2nd line (if you can even call it that anymore) in the 2011 draft. Besides Kucherov, they got Palat at like pick 210 and Johnson as a UDFA.
This is why accumulating picks is never a bad idea. Players work out or don't for a variety of reasons. Having more tries at finding them is wise planning. And guys who don't get drafted like Giordano or Johnson can also be found as well with good scouting.
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