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2Stonedbirds · 03-26-2016, 12:17 AM

That's how it's supposed to work, yes.

Is that how the RCMP acts faithfully 100% of the time? NO.

Go ask swiss arms, CZ 858, AP 80 Armi Jager owners who controls what.

Aaaaand I have fallen for your strawman. Congrats. What were we debating again?

2Stonedbirds · 03-26-2016, 12:19 AM

Still love to hear from Captain Crunch what rifle is capable of delivering a projectile to it's 2000 yard target at 2000FPS.

combustiblefuel · 03-26-2016, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

That's how it's supposed to work, yes.

Is that how the RCMP acts faithfully 100% of the time? NO.

Go ask swiss arms, CZ 858, AP 80 Armi Jager owners who controls what.

Aaaaand I have fallen for your strawman. Congrats. What were we debating again?

Classic mis-direction technique.

2Stonedbirds · 03-26-2016, 12:21 AM

Ok combustiblefuel. Lets simplify.

You don't like tannerite.

I dont care. The law is on my side.

Aaaaand go.

combustiblefuel · 03-26-2016, 12:24 AM

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Still love to hear from Captain Crunch what rifle is capable of delivering a projectile to it's 2000 yard target at 2000FPS.

There is this thing called google. I used it and found over 16 guns that can do 2000 fps.

Why would you need to be over 2000 yards away to acheive this?? Couldn't a suicide bomber acheive this with a high power magnum syle cased projectile from a closer range?

2Stonedbirds · 03-26-2016, 12:27 AM

Yeah, AT THE MUZZLE!

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Why would you need to be over 2000 yards away to acheive this?? Couldn't a suicide bomber acheive this with a high power magnum syle cased projectile from a closer range?

That was not the argument presented!

combustiblefuel · 03-26-2016, 12:27 AM

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Ok combustiblefuel. Lets simplify.

You don't like tannerite.

I dont care. The law is on my side.

Aaaaand go.

And you don't have a valid arguement other than it is legal for now but in this enviorment of fear portayed by mainstream media it is only a matter of time before this silly law will be changed.

2Stonedbirds · 03-26-2016, 12:29 AM

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And you don't have a valid arguement other than it is legal for now but in this enviorment of fear portayed by mainstream media it is only a matter of time before this silly law will be changed.

I don't need to present an argument for precisely that reason. If it's legal, I may legally enjoy it. If it's not, guess what? I'm done owning and using tannerite.

What is so hard to figure out here?

Again, if they change the laws surrounding binary explosives.... THEN SO BE IT. I'm not going to violate the law, so again, quit your crying.

combustiblefuel · 03-26-2016, 12:30 AM

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Yeah, AT THE MUZZLE!

So basically legally buy a gun that can exceed that at the muzzle and tannerite and hold the weapon right up against the payload of explosive.

combustiblefuel · 03-26-2016, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

Yeah, AT THE MUZZLE!

That was not the argument presented!

Except that was the exact question you asked.

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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

Still love to hear from Captain Crunch what rifle is capable of delivering a projectile to it's 2000 yard target at 2000FPS.

Annnnd gooo

2Stonedbirds · 03-26-2016, 12:33 AM

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Except that was the exact question you asked.

A projectile. AKA a bullet. Travelling at 2000 feet per second... now wait for it... AT 2000 YARDS!

Want me to draw you a picture?!?

You said you googled it and found numerous examples. Name one caliber that achieves this.

combustiblefuel · 03-26-2016, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

I don't need to present an argument for precisely that reason. If it's legal, I may legally enjoy it. If it's not, guess what? I'm done owning and using tannerite.

What is so hard to figure out here?

Again, if they change the laws surrounding binary explosives.... THEN SO BE IT. I'm not going to violate the law, so again, quit your crying.

Your right being concerned for the general public is just crying ..forget common sense.

combustiblefuel · 03-26-2016, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

A projectile. AKA a bullet. Travelling at 2000 feet per second... now wait for it... AT 2000 YARDS!

Want me to draw you a picture?!?

You said you googled it and found numerous examples. Name one caliber that achieves this.

And again why would some one need too be 2000 yards away if you can use a fire arm that can acheive this much closer like what suicide bombers do?

We just watched a video of a man do this!!!!!!!

2Stonedbirds · 03-26-2016, 12:36 AM

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Your right being concerned for the general public is just crying ..forget common sense.

Start a petition. Now name me one cartridge that is capable of delivering it's projectile to it's 2000+ yard target at the speed of 2000+ feet per second.

combustiblefuel · 03-26-2016, 12:38 AM

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And again why would some one need too be 2000 yards away if you can use a fire arm that can acheive this much closer like what suicide bombers do?

We just watched a video of a man do this!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

Start a petition. Now name me one cartridge that is capable of delivering it's projectile to it's 2000+ yard target at the speed of 2000+ feet per second.

2Stonedbirds · 03-26-2016, 12:39 AM

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And again why would some one need too be 2000 yards away if you can use a fire arm that can acheive this much closer like what suicide bombers do?

We just watched a video of a man do this!!!!!!!

Was it at a range of 2000 yards?!?

The end of the barrel... thats zero yards. The target... is it at 2000+ yards?

That was the argument presented. You said you found googled examples of cartridges capable of doing said feat. PLEASE PROVIDE EXAMPLE.

Keep rolling your eyes. Or read a book. I don't care but if you are this willfully ignorant do not try and lower me to your level of stupidity.

2Stonedbirds · 03-26-2016, 12:43 AM

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So basically legally buy a gun that can exceed that at the muzzle and tannerite and hold the weapon right up against the payload of explosive.

Is that 2000 yards?

Is that smart?

Are you a functioning bipedal organism?

combustiblefuel · 03-26-2016, 12:47 AM

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Was it at a range of 2000 yards?!?

The end of the barrel... thats zero yards. The target... is it at 2000+ yards?

That was the argument presented. You said you found googled examples of cartridges capable of doing said feat. PLEASE PROVIDE EXAMPLE.

Keep rolling your eyes. Or read a book. I don't care but if you are this willfully ignorant do not try and lower me to your level of stupidity.

224 Weatherby Magnum, .257 Lazzeroni Scramjet ,.223 Winchester Super Short Magnum,.220 Swift,17 Remington Fireball.

Don't let my extreme leftist veiws fool you . I do know a thing or two about shooting. I grew up in a very conservative and redneck area growing up.

combustiblefuel · 03-26-2016, 12:51 AM

[QUOTE=2Stonedbirds;5689022]Is that 2000 yards?

Is that smart?

Are you a functioning bipedal organism?[/QUOTE]

My aruguement was and still is you could be a suicide bomber to use the 2 together.

Resorting to name calling in an arguement is never a good thing. It juat means you may be wrong anf frustrated by facts you have no other logical retort. And should probably step away from the keyboard.

2Stonedbirds · 03-26-2016, 01:01 AM

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224 Weatherby Magnum, .257 Lazzeroni Scramjet ,.223 Winchester Super Short Magnum,.220 Swift,17 Remington Fireball.

Don't let my extreme leftist veiws fool you . I do know a thing or two about shooting. I grew up in a very conservative and redneck area growing up.

Coulda fooled me.

.224 WBY mag...

This rifle shoots a small bullet behind a large amount of propellent. .224 caliber or for us normal shooting folk, is commonly known as twenty two cal. The .224 WBY mag is a absolute barrel burner. Super fast.... AT THE MUZZLE.

Lets use for example a very common .224 cal bullet. 50 grain hornady Vmax bullets which have a G1 ballistic coefficient of .242. Lets go with a slightly hot load which produces a MUZZLE velocity of 3750FPS. Which is stupid fast. Ok.

We know how fast we are at the muzzle.

At 100 yards we are at 3294 FPS.

At 300 yards we are at 2511 FPS.

At 500 yards we are at 1851 FPS. Not fast enough to reliably set off tannerite.

At 900 yards we have dropped below subsonic speed. We are now at 1026 FPS. Bullet wobble is introduced.

At our argued point of being able to shoot and blow up targets at 2000 yards, we are now at the velocity of 559 FPS. Barely above what is allowed for non regulated air rifles.

So no, we are not detonating tannerite at 2000+ yards. Also, we basically have no hope in hell of hitting that target since we dropped subsonic over 1000 yards ago.

Shall I pick apart the other examples you have presented?