"The Hobbit"

[Stay Golden]

Finally saw the Hobbit over the holidays with friends and family in Imax it was outstanding but i would have given it a 9.5 but then I saw it in reg viewing and it was not as visually wowing but still a thrill. I would say a solid 8, but i am a JRR fan so probably biased.
One of the people that with us to Imax had never seen any LOTR movies and she was really impressed with movie as a movie, not really knowing anything about the series.

The Goblin battle scenes in the mountain are worth the price of admission alone.

[photon]

http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archiv...ain_of_the_new

An article that kind of jives with what I was thinking, and goes on to explain why it might be and what they'll probably have to do to adjust, and draws parallels with audio CDs vs vinyl, photographs, and colour vs black and white.

Interesting, and now I really do want to go see it in 24fps.

[Coach]

Saw it last night. I really enjoyed it. I read the book when I was quite young and couldn't remember much of it, and I think that was to my benefit as I didn't notice any changes and I could just enjoy Jackson's interpretation. It also means I don't have to complain about the length of the whole saga. I see a lot of people complaining about dragging it out, and I get it, but for me I am perfectly happy to watch 2 more 3 hour movies about this amazing world.

LOTR is like Star Wars for my generation. It was a phenomenon, filmed in an unconventional way, by a little known director with a big vision. They created a universe that people could believe existed and the possibilities from something like that is endless.

Freeman was great, as was McKellan. Loved Gollum, and the scenes in the underground. I think they did a great job differentiating between the Dwarves looks, but keeping the names straight is tough. But, its not the screenwriters fault all the names sound the same. The names are the names. I know Radagast was added character but I really enjoyed him. I thought the idea with the rabbit sled was good fun and the scene with the wags i really enjoyed.

All in all I thought i was great and I want to back and see it again and pay more attention to it. I look forward to seeing it many more times.

9/10

[I_H8_Crawford]

Quick question - is the Gloin in this story Gimli's father?

[Coach]

Yes

[Komskies]

Originally Posted by I_H8_Crawford

Quick question - is the Gloin in this story Gimli's father?

Indeed.

http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Gl%C3%B3in

[To_be_Quite_Honest]

and Balin, in FOTR the first battle that took place in the mines of moria, was in Balin's tomb room.

Was it just me or did it seem weird that Gimli was expecting Moria to still be a dwarf city when they headed there? So in the 60 years that these stories took place, Balin took a dwarf army, re-took Moria, then got slaughtered in what looks to be not long after they moved in. It wasn't too clear if the Balrog just cleaned house or if that goblin army was working with or just moved in after the dwarves were gone?

I know there isn't long distance communication in this world, but with the amount of talking insects you would think word would of gotten out?

[Wormius]

Gandalf seemed to know something about Moria as he cautioned the group not to travel through there.

But I didn't think there was a re-taking of Moria though. Isn't Moria different than the mine of Erebor? Moria was lost when they dug up the Balrog.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by To_be_Quite_Honest

and Balin, in FOTR the first battle that took place in the mines of moria, was in Balin's tomb room.

Was it just me or did it seem weird that Gimli was expecting Moria to still be a dwarf city when they headed there? So in the 60 years that these stories took place, Balin took a dwarf army, re-took Moria, then got slaughtered in what looks to be not long after they moved in. It wasn't too clear if the Balrog just cleaned house or if that goblin army was working with or just moved in after the dwarves were gone?

I know there isn't long distance communication in this world, but with the amount of talking insects you would think word would of gotten out?

I think I answered this earlier in the thread.

Short version: following the events of The Hobbit, Balin led an expedition to recapture Moria. They were able to take a small settlement, but orcs still controlled most of the once-great dwarf city/mine. Eventually Balin's settlement was overrun and everyone from his expedition were killed (as we saw in FotR).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moria_(...rth)#Third_Age

Towards the close of the Third Age a few generations later, the dwarf Balin led a company to reopen the city, including Flói, Óin, Ori, Frár, Lóni, and Náli, although Balin's mission was against King Dáin's wishes. At first all went well, but after five years the colony was destroyed by Orcs.

[MrMastodonFarm]

[Violator]

After reading this thread and how inaccurate it is to the book i wanna read the hobbit but i dont want the creepy pedophile cover version with Bilbo baggins on the front

[KOgear]

Yeah what happened to the old school version with the golden dragon. That's what made me want to read the book! A really cool dragon

[JD]

Well don't get the wrong idea. This movie is actually pretty close to the book, especially compared to the way they hacked and slashed parts out of LOTR to make the screenplay. The differences come from extra things they added to the movie to tie it in with the LOTR story more closely. While those additions aren't in the Hobbit book, they're in other writings from Tolken, whether they be the appendices from LOTR or from the Silmarillion.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by JD

Well don't get the wrong idea. This movie is actually pretty close to the book, especially compared to the way they hacked and slashed parts out of LOTR to make the screenplay. The differences come from extra things they added to the movie to tie it in with the LOTR story more closely. While those additions aren't in the Hobbit book, they're in other writings from Tolken, whether they be the appendices from LOTR or from the Silmarillion.

Yeah, and happened in an entirely different Age.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by drhu22

My main annoyance with it was there was far too many "in the nick of time" moments. Almost all of the fight scenes ended in Gandalf just saving the day in the nick of time.

Thats why i put down LOTR...there were too many of those moments...the last straw was when they were trapped on a ledge (getting close to mordor i think) and some magic rope appeared...anyone remember that?

For me, it is still a fun movie to watch in some ways.
I liked Bilbos character, and in general the way the characters are drawn. Im not sure about Gandalph... over all it is pretty cool movie to couch wrestle to, and eat popcorn.

I watched the first 2 LotR movies last week, and that is something that kind of bugs me about it too.

The LotR world is incredibly imaginative and Tolkien went into immense details on everything, but the actually story is cheap. It's predictable, cliche and corny.

I like it enough to watch occasionally, but I don't get the amazement that some people do.

[octothorp]

Yeah, there's no question that Tolkien's writing is a little hackneyed when it comes to plot and drama. But he's a master world-builder, which is why so many people have fallen in love with his Middle Earth. A lot of Tolkein's inspiration came from mythology, which is full of unlikely coincidences and actual godly interventions. I think if you want to appreciate the movies, you need to keep that perspective in mind and appreciate the world and history and characters, and hopefully forgive some of those deus ex machina moments. If you can't forgive those things, that's totally understandable, but it'll make it difficult to get into the spirit of the story.

[KTrain]

I really enjoyed the Hobbit. It was beautifully made and the story was fun.

I didn't feel the same connection to the Dwarves that I did to the Fellowship from the first three movies. Perhaps because there were so many and didn't get a lot of screen time individually. Hopefully they get fleshed out a bit in the next two movies so we can see more of their personalities.

I've never understood the desire to pick apart movies for their plot holes/inconsistencies. I much prefer to sit back and be entertained for a couple hours. Especially in a movie like this. If there are plot holes in the movie, it's likely they are in the book as well.

[edn88]

I just saw the Hobbit in Imax 3d (and I assume High frame rate). Thought it was fantastic. Definitely deviated from the source material, but watching a movie that follows the book, is not that much fun. It was good to see some of the scenes kept close to canon.

There were some decisions that I didn't agree with, but some of the things that they did needed to be done to get the plot moving correctly. Radagast and his sled of turbo bunnies was a bit annoying, but overall great popcorn flick. Was a little disappointed that my kid won't be able to see it for a few more years (with all of the beheadings and all) but that's okay too.

[drhu22]

This is a little ot but I stumbled on this short fan made film...
I didnt watch the whole movie yet but it looks pretty good.
http://www.thehuntforgollum.com/watchfilm.htm

[drhu22]

I think this movie deserves a bump im surprised no one in this thread found it interesting. Maybe because i said fan made?
It looks pretty good!