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Old 12-23-2021, 11:01 AM   #6461
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Maybe I'm a little late on this, but Chychrun is substantially better than Andersson, it's not close at all.

Chychrun is a #1, no questions asked.
You're absolutely correct.

Even just watching him recently against the Oilers, he was shutting McDavid down and keeping up with him and closing gaps.

Chychrun on the Flames would easily be our number 1D.
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.873 is a poor Dave percentage.

Dave does not approve, therefore he's perfect for the Oilers.
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The right pick at 15 in 2015 was Kylington. Chabot hype came after the draft.
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In Bob's list, which is a good aggregate of scout views Kylington was 25 and Chabot was 26.
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Old 12-23-2021, 12:09 PM   #6464
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You’ll never get over it as long as you don’t accept the fact that Buffalo was in love with the Vegas players
According to 32 thoughts their ask of Anaheim was two firsts, Drysdale and Zegras
Not sure what the Flames equivalent would be
Maybe all the success in Stockton helps someone fall in love with some of our prospects.

Of course I don’t mind if they are successful here obviously but I think you’re right in that for many of these deals, you can’t create interest in your prospects that isn’t there.
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Maybe all the success in Stockton helps someone fall in love with some of our prospects.

Of course I don’t mind if they are successful here obviously but I think you’re right in that for many of these deals, you can’t create interest in your prospects that isn’t there.
I guess for me, if you say the Flames could "easily beat" the Vegas offer it has to be on the assumption that none of your prospects beats Krebs in Buffalo's opinion, so you have to offer more prospects and you also have to offer a player that is clearly better than Tuch both on contract and on-ice performance, which to me leaves Lindholm and not many others. Johnny is a better player in a worse contract situation. Dube is on a better contract but no one is going to say he's better than Tuch at any point in the near future.

And then you have to make cap work as well, assuming Eichel makes it for the season.
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I guess for me, if you say the Flames could "easily beat" the Vegas offer it has to be on the assumption that none of your prospects beats Krebs in Buffalo's opinion, so you have to offer more prospects and you also have to offer a player that is clearly better than Tuch both on contract and on-ice performance, which to me leaves Lindholm and not many others. Johnny is a better player in a worse contract situation. Dube is on a better contract but no one is going to say he's better than Tuch at any point in the near future.

And then you have to make cap work as well, assuming Eichel makes it for the season.
Tuch is also from Buffalo and will actually play there...almost anyone else would probably want out ASAP
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Old 12-23-2021, 01:41 PM   #6467
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Tuch is also from Buffalo and will actually play there...almost anyone else would probably want out ASAP
Yeah, I mentioned that in my earlier post. Plus, assuming he recovers from his shoulder surgery, he's just a really good player with a big upward trajectory. Like I said before, his trajectory is a lot like Mangiapane's. Except he's signed.
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Old 12-23-2021, 01:53 PM   #6468
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I think Calgary’s win % is 64%

Arizona’s is 24%

I can see why we’d be sending first round picks a number of young starting players and our best prospect to them for their 1 defenceman of which we have a surplus.
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Old 12-23-2021, 02:01 PM   #6469
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I think Calgary’s win % is 64%

Arizona’s is 24%

I can see why we’d be sending first round picks a number of young starting players and our best prospect to them for their 1 defenceman of which we have a surplus.
because that player is ridiculously under rated around the league and young himself

A bad teams best player for picks and prospects is pretty standard
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Old 12-23-2021, 03:44 PM   #6470
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Would be funny to get him since that's basically our draft pick. We're thin on RW too. This might be an opportunity for us to buy low and turn it into something promising. The kid is still fast, big, and has scoring potential.

With all that being said, this is why we won't get him.
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Old 12-23-2021, 04:07 PM   #6471
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He's 24 and hasn't shown any scoring potential at the AHL.

He's not an upgrade on Pelletier, Phillips, or Gawdin at this point.
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Would be funny to get him since that's basically our draft pick. We're thin on RW too. This might be an opportunity for us to buy low and turn it into something promising. The kid is still fast, big, and has scoring potential.

With all that being said, this is why we won't get him.

Senshyn was a reach when he was drafted and hasn’t shown anything since then. He’s a reclamation project at best.
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Any idea who the flames were targeting if they didn’t trade away their pick?
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Old 12-23-2021, 05:31 PM   #6474
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Any idea who the flames were targeting if they didn’t trade away their pick?
I recall a lot of people around here wanting Kyle Connor. No idea if he was high on the Flames radar.
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Any idea who the flames were targeting if they didn’t trade away their pick?
Friedman has said on a couple occasions that the Flames liked Konecny.
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Old 12-23-2021, 05:54 PM   #6476
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Any idea who the flames were targeting if they didn’t trade away their pick?
Chabot was definitely interested on their radar. I believe he was brought into Calgary pre draft? I have heard the Konecny stuff as well
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Old 12-23-2021, 06:02 PM   #6477
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I'd rather just recall Phillips than trade anything for Senyshyn.
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Old 12-23-2021, 06:36 PM   #6478
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I remember some talk that the Flames were going to take Boeser.
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Old 12-23-2021, 06:42 PM   #6479
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I remember some talk that the Flames were going to take Boeser.
100% remember hearing the Flames were high on Boeser too.
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I'd rather just recall Phillips than trade anything for Senyshyn.
I think that the idea is that Senyshyn would start in Stockton and prove his worth. The problem that he is having in Boston is that he is projecting as a bottom six RW, and they had hopes for him to be a power top six RW. The expectations are all out of whack. Since Calgary has no history in developing the player, they wouldn't care about him not meeting projections.

I think that he could end up a decent fourth line guy, does all the little things, and no real defects. High end fourth liners have value, but not if the fans and organization had unrealistic dreams.

They might be interested in Colton Poolman (and a late pick) as a little depth pickup.
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