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[Dion]

Meet the Apostle of Right-Wing Christian Nationalism

Dutch Sheets stood behind Marjorie Taylor Greene, the palms of his hands held up to God.

Revered by followers as a modern Christian apostle, Sheets told a packed crowd at Gas South Arena, outside Atlanta, to pray with him for the GOP congresswoman, who touts herself as a Christian nationalist, and appeared onstage in a bright-red dress.

“We say she is covered by the blood of Jesus,” Sheets said. “She will not be taken out by evil forces,” he insisted, adding: “We take authority over that in Jesus’ name. And we cover her now with a shield of prayer and faith and say, ‘Be strong! Be blessed! You are highly favored! You will not fail,’ in Jesus’ name.”

The right’s new hunger for theocracy is creating an opening for figures like Sheets, who has long preached that Christians cannot only impose their morals on society through the levers of government, but that doing so is Jesus’ most ardent desire.

Inside the arena, Sheets was soon leading the spirited crowd in a recitation of a new document he co-authored called the “Watchman Decree.” It reads like a Christian nationalist pledge of allegiance.

“As a patriot of faith, I attest my allegiance first and foremost to the Kingdom of God and the Great Commission,” Sheets began. (The “Great Commission” refers to the instruction by the resurrected Jesus to his followers to “make disciples of all nations.”) He then led the crowd in a series of theocratic declarations, including:

“We, the Church, are God’s governing Body on the Earth.”
“We have been given legal power and authority from Heaven.”
“We are … delegated by Him to destroy every attempted advance of the enemy.”

The audience then read aloud, with Sheets, a list of 13 decrees, including that the three branches of U.S. government will “honor God,” “write only laws that are righteous,” and only “issue rulings that are biblical.” The congregation continued, in unison, “We declare that we stand against wokeness, the occult, and every evil attempt against our nation.”

They concluded with Sheets’ trademark spiritual battle cry: “We decree that America shall be saved!”

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/meet-apost...130000533.html

[Mull]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1565507517190397952

It’s nice to know the right is in fear of Dark Braden.

Painting him like this hurts their sleepy demented Joe narrative don’t you think?

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Dion

Meet the Apostle of Right-Wing Christian Nationalism







https://ca.yahoo.com/news/meet-apost...130000533.html

I believe you meant to post this in the "religions doing awful things" thread.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

I believe you meant to post this in the "religions doing awful things" thread.

I've been told religion makes people happier and live longer, so we should welcome this fascist theocracy with open arms.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I've been told religion makes people happier and live longer, so we should welcome this fascist theocracy with open arms.

That’s a disingenuous interpretation of the discussion which occurred in that thread.

[PsYcNeT]

Biden and the Dems get ~5% saltier and the entire Republican party ####s it's pants while frothing at the mouth about "unity" and "decorum", like they didn't try to stage a coup last year.

[MoneyGuy]

MAGA Jan. 6, 2021: violent attack on the U.S. Capitol in an attempt to overthrow an election to keep their god in power.
Same MAGA Sept. 1, 2022: Joe Biden is attempting to tear the country apart.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1565729478348836865

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by Mull

These chips appear to be semi vital to military tech- I love the USA can flex their hand and burden the Chinese military.



I like the commercial hit China will take, despite the hit NVIDIA will take.


What don't you like about it?

I don't really see how it benefits anyone, other than the US as hegemon.

AI is such an essential tech for economic activity and growth now that restricting chips like that is a very aggressive move in a trade environment. Long-term, it's just leading towards more siloed economic activity in chip design and production, which the US has been pushing for years now anyways, but in the near term it's just a further heightening of tensions between the US and China, quite unnecessarily.

Personally, I'm in favour of more economic cooperation, but the US under Biden has been very hawkish internationally and is pushing the world further towards conflict. He's clearly a fervent believer in American exceptionalism and seems to be operating in a way aligned with the ideas of a new American century. I just don't see how that's a good thing for the world.

[Mull]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

I don't really see how it benefits anyone, other than the US as hegemon.

AI is such an essential tech for economic activity and growth now that restricting chips like that is a very aggressive move in a trade environment. Long-term, it's just leading towards more siloed economic activity in chip design and production, which the US has been pushing for years now anyways, but in the near term it's just a further heightening of tensions between the US and China, quite unnecessarily.

Personally, I'm in favour of more economic cooperation, but the US under Biden has been very hawkish internationally and is pushing the world further towards conflict. He's clearly a fervent believer in American exceptionalism and seems to be operating in a way aligned with the ideas of a new American century. I just don't see how that's a good thing for the world.

Why would anyone be in favour of more economic cooperation work China?

That was the doctrine for what the last 40 years and with it China would get more liberal and such.

Instead they are THE international competitor for the USA.

Everything the US can do that would hurt the Chinese economy at a lessor cost to the USA should be discussed.

Biden being hawkish is awesome.

It’s just too bad trump was so stupid that he killed the TPPP

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by Mull

Why would anyone be in favour of more economic cooperation work China?

That was the doctrine for what the last 40 years and with it China would get more liberal and such.

Instead they are THE international competitor for the USA.

Everything the US can do that would hurt the Chinese economy at a lessor cost to the USA should be discussed.

Biden being hawkish is awesome.

It’s just too bad trump was so stupid that he killed the TPPP

Economic cooperation is good for peace and prosperity.

Is the bolded quote above representative of the liberalism that China ought to have adopted? Your post reads a lot like "They don't share our politics and they're also economically successful, so we should do them harm".

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Economic cooperation is good for peace and prosperity.

Is the bolded quote above representative of the liberalism that China ought to have adopted? Your post reads a lot like "They don't share our politics, engage in genocide, destroyed democracy in Hong Kong, severely oppress their people, and they're also economically successful, so we should do them harm".

Fixed that for you

[Mull]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Fixed that for you

This among another things. The USA is denying them critical military components- wonderful.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Fixed that for you

Oh, okay, so it's grounded on the moral inferiority of China and the moral superiority of the US? That makes sense. Their record is squeaky clean, so it must be about the moral issues and how much the US just loves people and their freedoms all around the world. That's credible. Can't imagine there being any other motives then.

[Mull]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Oh, okay, so it's grounded on the moral inferiority of China and the moral superiority of the US? That makes sense. Their record is squeaky clean, so it must be about the moral issues and how much the US just loves people and their freedoms all around the world. That's credible. Can't imagine there being any other motives then.

Are you confusing the difference of American past record with China current events-

or

actually trying you compare America current /recent actions with China? If so - ya China is a moral lesser to the USA today by a large margin.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Oh, okay, so it's grounded on the moral inferiority of China and the moral superiority of the US? That makes sense. Their record is squeaky clean, so it must be about the moral issues and how much the US just loves people and their freedoms all around the world. That's credible. Can't imagine there being any other motives then.

America is a pretty ####ed up place, but they're not running concentration camps and trying to exterminate large groups of people in the 21st century. WTF are you smoking to even try to defend China's government?

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by Mull

Are you confusing the difference of American past record with China current events-

or

actually trying you compare America current /recent actions with China? If so - ya China is a moral lesser to the USA today by a large margin.

I'm actually just mocking the idea that the US is in this primarily as a moral actor interested in helping people elsewhere in the world, and not just as a dominant power that's pretty comfortable with a unipolar world and wants to maintain that situation, even at the expense of what would be good for most people.

Economic cooperation and absence of conflict would be good for most people.

The biggest challenge for world peace and prosperity isn't China. It's that the BRICs nations now make up more of the world's GDP than do the USA and Europe combined, and that there is a shifting global balance of power away from the US. Response to the changing balance could be more or less peaceful. I would rather cheer for peace than for conflict.

[Mull]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

I'm actually just mocking the idea that the US is in this primarily as a moral actor interested in helping people elsewhere in the world, and not just as a dominant power that's pretty comfortable with a unipolar world and wants to maintain that situation, even at the expense of what would be good for most people.

Economic cooperation and absence of conflict would be good for most people.

The biggest challenge for world peace and prosperity isn't China. It's that the BRICs nations now make up more of the world's GDP than do the USA and Europe combined, and that there is a shifting global balance of power away from the US. Response to the changing balance could be more or less peaceful. I would rather cheer for peace than for conflict.

Oh I will cheer for peace but on our terms.

You keep trying to shift my view so I will ignore that portion.

Back to my post -denying China chips helps ensure peace remains with them - on our terms

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by Mull

Oh I will cheer for peace but on our terms.

You keep trying to shift my view so I will ignore that portion.

Back to my post -denying China chips helps ensure peace remains with them - on our terms

Ha, I'm not trying to "shift your view". Perhaps you just need to communicate that view more clearly.

Feel free to expand on whatever I seem to have misinterpreted, such as how this is a statement in favour of peace.

Everything the US can do that would hurt the Chinese economy at a lessor cost to the USA should be discussed.

Biden being hawkish is awesome

And perhaps you should expand on what you mean by "our terms", just so that I don't get that wrong too.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

I don't really see how it benefits anyone, other than the US as hegemon.

AI is such an essential tech for economic activity and growth now that restricting chips like that is a very aggressive move in a trade environment. Long-term, it's just leading towards more siloed economic activity in chip design and production, which the US has been pushing for years now anyways, but in the near term it's just a further heightening of tensions between the US and China, quite unnecessarily.

Personally, I'm in favour of more economic cooperation, but the US under Biden has been very hawkish internationally and is pushing the world further towards conflict. He's clearly a fervent believer in American exceptionalism and seems to be operating in a way aligned with the ideas of a new American century. I just don't see how that's a good thing for the world.

Lol, luckily China doesn't act in this EXACT manner and in ONLY this manner.