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Old 07-29-2025, 07:39 AM   #6381
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He put up 52 points in 76 games last year, on a team that somehow scored less than Calgary. Thats after 40 in 80 games two seasons ago when he was 20, so there is progression. He's 22, over 6' and 219 lbs. Last year as Sandman said, he put those numbers up in a reduced role. He's younger than Coronato and an 8-year deal takes him to 30.

I know, he makes the team better now which is counter to your hopes of bottoming out, but if a 22-year old, 219 lb C that fits in age-wise with our other young players is available, you make that move. Lottery protected as every 1st rounder seems to be nowadays anyway.
Agreed. Put him on Dallas and there’d be no arguments to not get him imo
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Old 07-29-2025, 08:21 AM   #6383
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How’s McTavish’s skating?
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Old 07-29-2025, 08:29 AM   #6384
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Maybe we need a: 2025/26 Season Tanking or Retool on the Fly, thread. Sheesh!
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How’s McTavish’s skating?
Average-ish.
Not a strength of his, but won't hold him back either.
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Old 07-29-2025, 08:32 AM   #6386
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What does Anaheim want? I assume not picks if they can replace picks with production.

I can see why McTavish wouldn't be too happy there. They just signed Granlund to be there 1C placeholder and Carlsson is ahead of him and for some reason so is Ryan Strome. Not to mention all the press Roger McQueen got at the draft this year.

Zary + Mews + Farabee get close? They are weak on RW and D.
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Old 07-29-2025, 08:47 AM   #6388
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What does Anaheim want? I assume not picks if they can replace picks with production.

I can see why McTavish wouldn't be too happy there. They just signed Granlund to be there 1C placeholder and Carlsson is ahead of him and for some reason so is Ryan Strome. Not to mention all the press Roger McQueen got at the draft this year.

Zary + Mews + Farabee get close? They are weak on RW and D.
They aren't weak on D. They had too many last year and as such, Zellweger and Mintyukov didn't get full time duty. And they've got more coming in the pipeline. And a lot of those guys are offensively minded, so I don't see a fit for Mews necessarily.
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I want to caution people saying we have at worst an elite #1dman and goalie...

Dustin Wolf absolutey has all the tools to be an elite goalie. He had an amazing year. However, it is just one year and I want to see him do it over a few year period before claiming he is elite. And I say that as a huge Wolf fan.

Also, Parekh has played one NHL game. I have watched in person about 10 of his games and the potential is absolutely crazy. However, the NHL is a step above what he has been playing. We are all hoping he becomes an elite 1st pairing guy, but there is no guarantee.

I just think setting your expectations up that high can lead to a lot of disappointment. If both these things work out, we absolutely are at a position closer to being a contender than we were. But these are not guarantees.

I prefer the fun of dreaming and having hope. If something doesn't work out then I can deal with the disappointment in a constructive way.

I'd rather not simmer my hopes and dreams because that just leads me with nothing to look forward to and constant negativity.
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What does Anaheim want? I assume not picks if they can replace picks with production.

I can see why McTavish wouldn't be too happy there. They just signed Granlund to be there 1C placeholder and Carlsson is ahead of him and for some reason so is Ryan Strome. Not to mention all the press Roger McQueen got at the draft this year.

Zary + Mews + Farabee get close? They are weak on RW and D.
Farabee likely has negative value. Mews is a B- prospect. Zary would likely be a piece, but it would require Calgary's 1st round pick, protected to some degree of course, to be included.

In a bidding war for McTavish, the winner won't be the team that throws out some stuff. Likely the team that would get him would be the team that includes an excellent NHL ready prospect.
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Zary+Pospisil+VGK 1st for McTavish
Andersson+Coleman(retained 1 or both)+2nd for Robertson

Obviously a fantasy but if Connie could pull off this type of August magic it would be a complete game changer up front.

Robertson-Kadri-Coronato
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No idea if he moves their needle, but I could see Verbeek/Anaheim loving Pospisil.
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Farabee likely has negative value. Mews is a B- prospect. Zary would likely be a piece, but it would require Calgary's 1st round pick, protected to some degree of course, to be included.

In a bidding war for McTavish, the winner won't be the team that throws out some stuff. Likely the team that would get him would be the team that includes an excellent NHL ready prospect.
Don’t discount the fact that Verbeek seems to be a terrible GM though haha
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Farabee likely has negative value. Mews is a B- prospect. Zary would likely be a piece, but it would require Calgary's 1st round pick, protected to some degree of course, to be included.

In a bidding war for McTavish, the winner won't be the team that throws out some stuff. Likely the team that would get him would be the team that includes an excellent NHL ready prospect.
This seems a bit harsh to me. Farabee has negative value? I doubt that. Describing Mews as a B prospect also leans a bit negative to me. He’s a legitimate prospect and would probably top the charts on more than a few NHL teams RHS D prospect depth list.

I don’t think it is quite as dire as your choosing to believe this morning.

That said, I don’t think this package is what Anaheim would look for in a McTavish deal. They likely want a one-for-one with a player of comparable age and potential.
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This seems a bit harsh to me. Farabee has negative value? I doubt that. Describing Mews as a B prospect also leans a bit negative to me. He’s a legitimate prospect and would probably top the charts on more than a few NHL teams RHS D prospect depth list.

I don’t think it is quite as dire as your choosing to believe this morning.
I don't know. It seems fair.
Until Farabee re-establishes he can produce, even to a modest degree, he likely is not a positive asset at this cap rate. Though the rising cap helps to some degree.

Mews is realistically a B prospect. He has some tantalizing upside, but there are gobs of these offensively minded dmen, and only the very best make it. You certainly could not call him an A prospect. Big upside. Big risk. That's a B.
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I still think a 3-way with Dallas makes great sense....somehow McTavish to us....and Flames can trade away Zary, Andersson, and Coleman (50% retained).....Robertson to Anaheim, Andersson and Coleman to Dallas......not sure where all the other pieces go or fit and what else needs to be included on the from and to ends.

This suits everyone's needs more. Flames don't want to trade their pick and Anaheim prefers less futures.

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Old 07-29-2025, 09:22 AM   #6397
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I don't think Anaheim hired Quenneville, took on Kreider and Trouba so that they could turn McTavish into futures. I'd think they will want some more immediate help if they were going to make a deal. Seems strange that they would want to move on from McTavish though. Based on what Royal or others have suggested I don't think the Flames are willing to put their own first in play, but the VGK one could be.
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I don't think Anaheim hired Quenneville, took on Kreider and Trouba so that they could turn McTavish into futures. I'd think they will want some more immediate help if they were going to make a deal. Seems strange that they would want to move on from McTavish though. Based on what Royal or others have suggested I don't think the Flames are willing to put their own first in play, but the VGK one could be.
Yeah it makes zero sense for Anaheim to trade him in a multi asset trade since they already have too many assets and not enough stars

I get packaging him for an older more established Center but why would they want a late 1st that won’t help them for 4-5 seasons and a worse player ?

Unless there is no market for him because he wants too much money and teams don’t see him as more then a 2nd line C
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I don't think Anaheim hired Quenneville, took on Kreider and Trouba so that they could turn McTavish into futures. I'd think they will want some more immediate help if they were going to make a deal. Seems strange that they would want to move on from McTavish though. Based on what Royal or others have suggested I don't think the Flames are willing to put their own first in play, but the VGK one could be.
Verbeek has not had a great track record with his younger high picks. I believe the negotiation with Drysdale went poorly and he was moved out for Gauthier. Same for Zegras who had a tough RFA negotiation. McTavish is rumored to not be happy with his role and could be in a tough negotiation and driving the desire for a deal.

I agree they would want to win now. The 3 way with Dallas makes a lot of sense. Zary as a piece makes sense. Would the Ducks have interest in Andersson? Andersson+Zary+1st is a strong offer.
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Yeah it makes zero sense for Anaheim to trade him in a multi asset trade since they already have too many assets and not enough stars

I get packaging him for an older more established Center but why would they want a late 1st that won’t help them for 4-5 seasons and a worse player ?

Unless there is no market for him because he wants too much money and teams don’t see him as more then a 2nd line C
They would only trade him if they don’t think they have the room at center so I doubt they trade him for an older center. Still think he stays on the Ducks but I bet the trade is bad for Anaheim if it happens.
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