Seems like he priced his way out of Calgary and is demanding a trade to Vegas. I domt think he wants to be on the Flames at all especially the way things are being handled
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Seems like he priced his way out of Calgary and is demanding a trade to Vegas. I domt think he wants to be on the Flames at all especially the way things are being handled
Eh, at some point just sell him off for the best rental return then
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Seems like he priced his way out of Calgary and is demanding a trade to Vegas. I domt think he wants to be on the Flames at all especially the way things are being handled
The Vegas item is a misinterpretation. Rasmus clearly wants to hit free agency in a year to field all offers. The point made is if he is expected to sign an extension now and skip his chance at free agency, it’s clear Vegas is somewhere he would extend given their tax structure, city lifestyle, and contention for a cup.
I'd pivot to selling him as a 1 year rental to the highest bidder anyway. Should still fetch a really good return ... he's a cheap at 4.55m as it is, but if you retain some money, he becomes a steal. I understand why CC would prefer a deal with an extension in place, but it is what it is. Ras has every right to refuse to sign an extension at this point.
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I'd pivot to selling him as a 1 year rental to the highest bidder anyway. Should still fetch a really good return ... he's a cheap at 4.55m as it is, but if you retain some money, he becomes a steal. I understand why CC would prefer a deal with an extension in place, but it is what it is. Ras has every right to refuse to sign an extension at this point.
Yeah no point leaving anything to chance by putting power in his hands. Make the best deal you can with the 26 teams not on his no trade list as a 1 year rental and the sooner the better.
I'd pivot to selling him as a 1 year rental to the highest bidder anyway. Should still fetch a really good return ... he's a cheap at 4.55m as it is, but if you retain some money, he becomes a steal. I understand why CC would prefer a deal with an extension in place, but it is what it is. Ras has every right to refuse to sign an extension at this point.
I wouldn't be shocked if those kinds of deals were already somewhat in place as a contingency. I'd be surprised if they weren't.
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The Blues make a ton of sense and they were in a unique spot to execute a retool and I think it is going to work for them. Having Thomas and Kyrou allowed them to do this retool in the first place. Moving RoR and Tarasenko in 22/23 allowed them to add 2 extra 1st rounders in 2023 including their 10th overall. They bolster their prospect pool and then last year made the offer sheets to add Broberg and Holloway which proved to be great moves. Adding Byram to this team gives them a nice young core with some solid prospects. I could see them shipping Schenn out eventually and continuing to rebuild on the fly
St. Louis actually makes more sense for Rasmus. They want to move Faulk, who is a substantial cap dump on a two year contract. That opens up a top four spot on the right side. They don't have that spot on the left.
They also brought in Pius Suter, which could open up a Dvorsky trade? I'd go one-for-one. If not that, Stenberg and a 1st would be a good return, with Faulk thrown in (whose value is probably like a 3rd, at this point. He's not useless.)
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I remember the Flyers signed Jeff Carter to a ridiculous long-term contract with an NMC and then traded him right before it kicked in. There were a few months between signing the deal and trading him, I believe, but that might be the closest to Rhett's idea that has actually happened lol.
I remember the Flyers signed Jeff Carter to a ridiculous long-term contract with an NMC and then traded him right before it kicked in. There were a few months between signing the deal and trading him, I believe, but that might be the closest to Rhett's idea that has actually happened lol.
I think it's what happened with both Carter and Richards to some extent.
Although it was a bit different in those cases as since the players were still under RFA age - the NTC clause wouldn't have kicked in yet anyways.
Carter's 11 year deal kicked in July 1 2011, but he was traded June 23, 2011 to Columbus.
Richards 12 year deal had kicked in for the 08-09 season, but he was also traded on the same day as Carter, before his NMC kicked in for the 12-13 season.
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Johnson out of Dallas? I see CP's annual tradition of speculating and dreaming themselves into absurd trade returns has come into full bloom. "Okay, so we're all sure it'll be the 10th overall pick from New Jersey for Markstrom but if those greedy idiots think we're throwing in our late first in this draft to get it done they'd better be giving us Mercer, too or they're in fantasy land!!!".
also depends on the scenario. If I, by some miracle, became GM of the Vancouver Canucks at some point between today and July 1 2026, would I feel bad for trading a Garland or Demko before their new NMC kicks in? I mean, I didn't give them those deals, and if someone made me a good offer ... right?
Rhett's proposal is funny, but yeah, it would damage your reputation pretty heavily, I'd assume. A market like New York might pull that #### and still attract players, but a market like Calgary would surely suffer from it.
I agree. Pinder keeps saying it would be a dick move, but what is a player that is under contract dictating to the team who he will only sign and extension with. You don't have that right yet, you could have it at the end of next year. I would sign him to 8x9 with NMC, then trade him to Buffalo before the end of this year.
Who cares if players that don't live up to their current term think its a dick move, the big FA's aren't coming here anyway.
Seems like he priced his way out of Calgary and is demanding a trade to Vegas. I domt think he wants to be on the Flames at all especially the way things are being handled
What he's suggesting would never be possible because there's no way Andersson's agent would allow him to sign a long-term deal that didn't retroactively apply the NTC/NMC to the final year of the existing contract for that very reason.
The ability to retroactively apply the clauses to the end of an existing contract has been on the books long enough that those guys should know that.
This was added to the CBA in 2013:
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(b) A no-Trade clause or a no-move clause that is negotiated as part of an extension of an SPC entered into pursuant to Section 50.5(f) may become effective immediately upon registration of, but prior to the effective date of, such SPC extension, provided: (i) the Player would otherwise have been eligible as of the immediately preceding July 1 prior to signing the SPC extension to have a no-Trade or no-move clause pursuant to Section 11.8; and (ii) the Club and the Player, who are parties to such SPC extension, agree that the no-Trade or no-move clause is effective immediately upon execution of the SPC extension (or at some later date agreed to by the Club and the Player) and evidence such agreement in writing in the SPC.
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Conroy is too nice to do that. It would be a dick move and probably reserved for someone who there isn't good faith with behind the scenes, anymore. I don't think Rasmus fits that bill, but it's getting there with the leaked info hurting his value.
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