[Signing] Flames sign Huberdeau to long term extension (8 yrs, $10.5 mil AAV)

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by mile

https://twitter.com/user/status/1555553563018989571

If Gaudreau can, Huberdeau can

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Jesus christ...

Whatever Tkachuk will or won't do for the next 1, 2, 5, 10 seasons has absolutely ZERO relevance to any of this.

He was gone no matter what.
He requested a trade, he was not going to sign in Calgary. EVER.

This is not Treliving deciding to move on from Tkachuk.
This was Treliving having to react to Tkachuk telling him, and everyone else in the league that HE WAS NOT GOING TO STAY IN CALGARY.

lol

That Treliving took that BS situation and turned it into:

1. An top line winger and top 10 league wide scorer, now committed to CGY for 9 years
2. A top pairing defenseman from the Presidents trophy winning team last season
3. A pretty decenbt prospect
4. A future 1st round pick

Is nothing short of a goddamned miracle.

Blows me away that there are some Flames fans in here wringing their hands over this.

LMAO

No kidding, we were one crazy offer from Florida away from getting ****ing Tarasenko and Scandelli to show for Tkachuk.

[Salt Water Cowboy #10]

Weird I’ve read two articles stating that this is the biggest contract in Flames history. Next biggest being Sean Monahan. But why is everyone forgetting that we paid Iginla $7 mil for 7 seasons. Saw it on a sportsnet article and a flamesnation article

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by Scooter

Everyone on the list + Point showed up in the winning Stanley Cup playoff years. Huby a no show in this years playoffs. Contract will be justified when he does something in the post season!

This is a weird take to post on CP.

Here is what you posted on twitter:

https://twitter.com/EricFrancis/stat...06875138502656

[SOMBRI2]

I love this signing.

I remember Joe Thornton keeps surprising people at late 30s with his production.

Huby was once a third overall pick.

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[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

- I don't see any wingers signing at his age getting close to this much including Ovi.....CRIPES

Ovi's deals were for ages: 23-35 and 36-40. Totally different.

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Not me. NHL fans seem to be much more obsessed with trades compared to fans of other sports.

NBA has a year-round news cycle now based on trades. NFL and MLB just don't have many trades.

Originally Posted by Salt Water Cowboy #10

Weird I’ve read two articles stating that this is the biggest contract in Flames history. Next biggest being Sean Monahan. But why is everyone forgetting that we paid Iginla $7 mil for 7 seasons. Saw it on a sportsnet article and a flamesnation article

84 > 49? But as a % of cap you may be right.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by flylock shox

It's the salary cap. It sucks the fun out of big trades and signings by forcing fans to be accountants.

If there was no cap to consider, everyone is happy with deals like this. But with the cap everyone has to look at contract value and implications on other signings and all that boring stuff.

Obviously the cap is necessary to ensure teams like the Flames can compete, but it does complicate the business of just being a hockey fan.

Yeah, it would be swell to go back to reading about every star signing in the big US markets and nowhere else. Also, we'd still be talking about "the cap" on CP in regards to the Flames, it would just be the internal cap, a good $20-$50mil less than the top US teams.

It just blew me away when Ron McLean used to wax poetic about how the salary cap has killed dynasties and wants it gone. HE's speaking as an Oilers fan of the 80's when the Oilers of the late 90's/early 2000's were what happens without a salary cap, modern day.

[Hot_Flatus]

Good work by Treliving to get this done now and avoid the team going down the same road once again. If he can get Weegar signed now as well, I will certainly call this trade a massive win.

Would have liked to see the AAV a little lower, but the 10.5 instead of 10.0 is probably what it took to get it done right away. This should go a long way in repairing some of the negative sentiment that's been surrounding the franchise for the last month or so.

[undercoverbrother]

I am happy he signed.

I actually thought is would be more $$.

ON the length of contract as mentioned by previous posters higher end players can last longer, especially if their body has been relatively injury free.

Has Huberdeau been pretty injury free?

[getbak]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1555581395610640384

[ThatsRobbery]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Good work by Treliving to get this done now and avoid the team going down the same road once again. If he can get Weegar signed now as well, I will certainly call this trade a massive win.

Would have liked to see the AAV a little lower, but the 10.5 instead of 10.0 is probably what it took to get it done right away. This should go a long way in repairing some of the negative sentiment that's been surrounding the franchise for the last month or so.

If you want to go super glass half full approach, with this year at 5.8 AAV, the deal is basically 9 years at 10 million...

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by getbak

https://twitter.com/user/status/1555581395610640384

Nice, can't wait to hear from him.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Has Huberdeau been pretty injury free?

His worst injury was in 2016 when he was cut by a skate in preseason and only played 31 games that year. Which is more of a freak accident than an injury. Last 5 seasons he hasn't missed much time.

Longevity is tied to playing style, which definitely works in Huberdeau's favour, but it's also just an individual thing for each player and how their body ages... I wouldn't have predicted what happened to Lecavalier in his late 20's / early 30's, for example.

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Has an NHL forward ever produced like this in the back half of his 30's? 81 points in 82 games as a 37 year old is unheard of and it's not like he's playing a one-dimensional game. Amazing player and I just wish he played in the Eastern Conference because he's been a thorn in the side of the Flames.

Ray Whitney

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Not me. NHL fans seem to be much more obsessed with trades compared to fans of other sports. I don't mind a good trade but continuously pining for trades means you are never truly satisfied with the team you cheer for.

What? The NBA sometimes feels like one big storyline being pushed by media and fans. It's all about who's going where, who's joining who on what team the upcoming season. It's literally almost all they talk about in that league is player movement and potential player movement.

Makes it all that sweeter when fans and media spend a year going "Oooooh that'll be a super team, wonder if they'll lose more than 5 games next year" followed by that team being decidedly mediocre.

[littlereddevil]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

So, first of all, I don't agree with that. The last city that had this stigma of being "the team that can't get its stars to stay" was Columbus, and that seems to have gone away. But more importantly than that, we know exactly what it would take to change the image of the team in terms of its ability to attract talent: new facilities. The facilities suck. Calgary isn't Winnipeg, it's not Buffalo, it's not Arizona. It's not Vancouver or Toronto either, as far as that goes, but I think the pendulum of "no one wants to come here" has swung a little bit towards the doom and gloom. If Huberdeau walked next summer but at the same time they broke ground on the new home for the Flames, I don't even think it would make an impact.

It would, however, be devastating to Treliving. That would be the end of him, for sure... and I don't think having a GM fighting for his job is a good place to be in the NHL.

I get the sentiment that, well, the Flames will be bad for the last 4 years of his deal anyway, so who cares. My counterpoint is, first of all, no one can really predict where any team in the NHL will be in 4 years, and second, if the plan is to suffer through 4 years of darkness and pain, that's... I just don't think that's a good thing to be ready to accept. I don't EVER want to be the current San Jose Sharks.

Huberdeau was never going to sign for a cheaper and shorter-term deal, we can't delude ourselves with that (we're not the New York Rangers where everyone seems to want to play). We had to pay more. It's the reality of being a small-market Canadian team.

We'll cross that bridge in 5-6 years time if this deal does not age well. But I'm going to be a glass half-full person here and believe that Huberdeau will still be an impact player into his mid 30s. Sure, statistically, it's unlikely, but he's also been in the running for the Hart these past 4 years. He's undeniably a star. You have to pay to keep your stars, period.

The good news about how the Flames have managed their contracts is that in 2 years time, they will have a lot of UFAs. I doubt all of them will get retained. Toffoli will likely be leaving, perhaps Zadorov and Hanifin as well. This will free up some salary that could allow them to re-sign Lindholm to a higher salary. The cap is also rumoured to increase by then. They also don't have any other players locked up long-term on a high AAV, besides Markstrom. The Flames haven't at all managed their cap like the Sharks or the Blackhawks paying very high salaries for multiple players.

This is the Flames' first long-term contract with a high AAV signed in like the past 6 years (besides Monahan's contract). We'll be fine. IMO the Flames window for contention was always going to be the next 2 years, regardless of Huberdeau's extension. What this extension does is potentially keep the Flames' window for contention open for a few more years, while Huberdeau is still performing at an elite level and elevating the play of his teammates. In this salary cap era of the NHL, the teams that do the best are the ones with favourable short-term cap situations. In 2 years time Flames management will be able to re-assess their cap situation, and decide in which direction they will be heading.

[littlereddevil]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Yeah, it would be swell to go back to reading about every star signing in the big US markets and nowhere else. Also, we'd still be talking about "the cap" on CP in regards to the Flames, it would just be the internal cap, a good $20-$50mil less than the top US teams.

It just blew me away when Ron McLean used to wax poetic about how the salary cap has killed dynasties and wants it gone. HE's speaking as an Oilers fan of the 80's when the Oilers of the late 90's/early 2000's were what happens without a salary cap, modern day.

I'm glad that the salary cap has been introduced. It not only holds teams accountable (no pun intended) to manage their players' contracts, but it ensures that every team with even decent management can remain competitive.

I don't want to see teams like the Islanders or Oilers win multiple consecutive Stanley Cups. While it might be fun to be a fan of one of those teams, it's boring for most NHL fans, and it prevents the NHL from ever becoming popular in other markets. It's overall bad for the sport. Do we really want to see teams like the Nordiques and Jets having to be moved to larger U.S. markets again, because they don't have the ownership willing to overpay for all of their players, an arena, coaching staff, etc.?

Personally, I would find it more impressive as a neutral NHL fan that teams like the Penguins and Lightning have been able to stay competitive multiple seasons in a row, and win consecutive Stanley Cups, while being in the salary cap era.

There's a reason why I don't like watching the MLB or NBA. Nobody wants to see the Yankees and Warriors win every year. It's boring.

[Shazam]

Good deal.

[agulati]

Originally Posted by getbak

https://twitter.com/user/status/1555581395610640384

I wonder if Fan960 carries it

[Boo Radley]

Excellent.

The most important thing I think people are missing is that Huberdeau was born in Saint-Jérôme. Good omen (?)