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Old 01-12-2022, 11:25 AM   #621
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Showed upside and offensive instincts, criticized for character concerns, jumped from multiple teams before finding a fit.

I'm sure there are others as well but Duclair is one that comes to mind since he's doing well in Florida.

Or do you only follow the Flames?
This is like comparing a shop lifter to Ted Bundy


They both broke the law
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Old 01-12-2022, 11:29 AM   #622
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Yeah, Kanes a numpty. If he forged documents , the NHL is gonna roast him alive.
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Old 01-12-2022, 11:29 AM   #623
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If Treliving isn't pursuing Kane for the reason that he's "bad in the locker room", aka doesn't fit into the white hockey fraternity, that is the wrong move. .
I don't disagree sadly with your point about race and hockey, but I am also concerned that it could be a bit of a simple dismissal of the Kane situation
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Yeah, Kanes a numpty. If he forged documents , the NHL is gonna roast him alive.
Again, after coming off a 25 game suspension for doing the same thing.
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Old 01-12-2022, 11:52 AM   #625
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Noooo!!!!!

Come on Edmonton! Sign him now! Right now! Just so he could be suspended on their roster!
This is just going to make Edmonton even more anxious and desperate, picturing their season saviour falling through the cracks. Up goes the price offer!
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If Treliving isn't pursuing Kane for the reason that he's "bad in the locker room", aka doesn't fit into the white hockey fraternity, that is the wrong move. Sutter has the pedigree to keep Kane in his place and Kane is likely motivated to earn a new contract for next year.
You're general point about minorities in hockey is fair, and I think that when Kane left Winnipeg that was a fair statement about not fitting into the normal hockey culture.

But this is way beyond him not fitting into the white hockey fraternity at this point.

The gambling, domestic violence, and COVID Protocol issues are the reason you don't pursue signing Kane.

Not because he's bad in the locker room.
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If he actually forged documents again that is two felonies since September...not to mention the accusations of more.

It's not race and hockey culture come on now.

If he got 25 games before he should get 50 now
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Old 01-12-2022, 12:04 PM   #628
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I don't disagree sadly with your point about race and hockey, but I am also concerned that it could be a bit of a simple dismissal of the Kane situation

The only thing Kane is guilty of is the Covid-related issues, which is definitely problematic. It's needlessly stupid and he needs to get his #### together.

However, the rest of the things that people are bagging on E. Kane about like gambling, false claims from his vindictive and crazy ex-wife, etc., is being overblown. Lets look at some examples:
  • Jagr is a notorious gambler and womanizer with significant debts, but he never received nearly the same media coverage about it that E. Kane does.
  • Patrick Kane has physically and sexually assaulted numerous people, which is swept under the rug.
  • Tony Deangelo is a Trump-ist with a history of racism that dates back to his junior days, but there has been minimal media coverage on him besides the NYR scuffle.
  • Jeff Carter was kicked off of Philly for partying and is rumored to have slept with his teammate's wife, but there was minimal media coverage on that as well
Besides the Covid-issues, E. Kane is being vilified for acting no different than the rest of the hockey fraternity (i.e. acting like a typical dumb jock/pro athlete), but like many of his peers (e.g. Emery, Ho-Sang, Subban, A. Carter, etc.) there's a media target on his back because he's "different". It's ridiculous


I am not absolving Kane of his stupidity, but the conditions on the Flames are present to make acquiring him a success for both parties and Treliving is an idiot if he doesn't pursue it
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The only thing Kane is guilty of is the Covid-related issues, which is definitely problematic. It's needlessly stupid and he needs to get his #### together.

However, the rest of the things that people are bagging on E. Kane about like gambling, false claims from his vindictive and crazy ex-wife, etc., is being overblown. Lets look at some examples:
  • Jagr is a notorious gambler and womanizer with significant debts, but he never received nearly the same media coverage about it that E. Kane does.
  • Patrick Kane has physically and sexually assaulted numerous people, which is swept under the rug.
  • Tony Deangelo is a Trump-ist with a history of racism that dates back to his junior days, but there has been minimal media coverage on him besides the NYR scuffle.
  • Jeff Carter was kicked off of Philly for partying and is rumored to have slept with his teammate's wife, but there was minimal media coverage on that as well
Besides the Covid-issues, E. Kane is being vilified for acting no different than the rest of the hockey fraternity (i.e. acting like a typical dumb jock/pro athlete), but like many of his peers (e.g. Emery, Ho-Sang, Subban, A. Carter, etc.) there's a media target on his back because he's "different". It's ridiculous


I am not absolving Kane of his stupidity, but the conditions on the Flames are present to make acquiring him a success for both parties and Treliving is an idiot if he doesn't pursue it
you think lots of player pay women to abort fetuses?
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you think lots of player pay women to abort fetuses?
well on that point in isolation, I am sure the N > 1 (Kane)
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^^^ if the players were to out this to a vote I have a hard time believing Kane would be welcome here with open arms .
If tre pursues this he should immediately be let go.
The Flames are NOT just about hockey in this city.
The alumni / guys that have stayed after playing still give back to the community.
E. KANE would never leave behind anything but a burnt out landscape of things his crazy burned to the ground.
Don't kid yourself ....he's not coming here and Darryl has stated too many times that they breed not just hockey players here but good people.
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Old 01-12-2022, 12:26 PM   #632
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The only thing Kane is guilty of is the Covid-related issues, which is definitely problematic. It's needlessly stupid and he needs to get his #### together.

However, the rest of the things that people are bagging on E. Kane about like gambling, false claims from his vindictive and crazy ex-wife, etc., is being overblown. Lets look at some examples:
  • Jagr is a notorious gambler and womanizer with significant debts, but he never received nearly the same media coverage about it that E. Kane does.
  • Patrick Kane has physically and sexually assaulted numerous people, which is swept under the rug.
  • Tony Deangelo is a Trump-ist with a history of racism that dates back to his junior days, but there has been minimal media coverage on him besides the NYR scuffle.
  • Jeff Carter was kicked off of Philly for partying and is rumored to have slept with his teammate's wife, but there was minimal media coverage on that as well
Besides the Covid-issues, E. Kane is being vilified for acting no different than the rest of the hockey fraternity (i.e. acting like a typical dumb jock/pro athlete), but like many of his peers (e.g. Emery, Ho-Sang, Subban, A. Carter, etc.) there's a media target on his back because he's "different". It's ridiculous


I am not absolving Kane of his stupidity, but the conditions on the Flames are present to make acquiring him a success for both parties and Treliving is an idiot if he doesn't pursue it
Evander's Kane's BS has been swept under the rug multiple times too...he got a long term 7M contract on his fourth or fifth chance. Did Dustin Byfuglien kick his ass because of race? Most guys learn after 5 chances.
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Do you suppose another suspension could be in the offing?
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any GM who even considers giving that guy another chance is unfit for office.
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Old 01-12-2022, 12:36 PM   #635
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NHL has begun an investigation into how Kane crossed the Border while in COVID protocol. Could be another large suspension if he faked documents again.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1481320054788694017

https://twitter.com/user/status/1481320641039159300

https://twitter.com/user/status/1481320790687686660

LOL


Kane is a total joke.
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He's not going to Edmonton. He has serious money issues and will look for a team in a low tax jurisdiction.
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Like, he gets suspended 21 games for forging covid Vax documents and then....THEN!! He gets covid for realsies, forges some more Vax documents to board a plane to Canada from the U.S.

If this is true I don't see how the PA can fight his contract termination, on too of the league absolutely dropping the ban hammer on him.

This is a straight character issue. It shows a blatant disregard for others (regardless of your pandemic politics) and also shows direct insubordination to a team, league and sport that he has had ample opportunity to make tens of millions of dollar if he just kept his head down.

Sprinkle in the fact he's Flipping bankrupt from the already made tens of millions he's already earned.

He's just a selfish irresponsible person who has exiled himself from every team he has played for.

Yeah, let the Oilers sign him.

God blessed talent absolutely wasted. Just poured down the drain.
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you think lots of player pay women to abort fetuses?
Probably not lots, but suspect it happens enough. Young professional athletes are going to 'busy' if they want to be.
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He's not going to Edmonton. He has serious money issues and will look for a team in a low tax jurisdiction.
With serious money issues, wouldn't it make more sense to suck it up and play with McDavid or Draisiatl (and both on the power play) for minimum and rack up the points for the rest of the season (with no need to play defence), then seek the payday in the low tax jurisdiction in the summer?
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^^^ if the players were to out this to a vote I have a hard time believing Kane would be welcome here with open arms .
If tre pursues this he should immediately be let go.
The Flames are NOT just about hockey in this city.
The alumni / guys that have stayed after playing still give back to the community.
E. KANE would never leave behind anything but a burnt out landscape of things his crazy burned to the ground.
Don't kid yourself ....he's not coming here and Darryl has stated too many times that they breed not just hockey players here but good people.
This is the same organization that gave Todd Bertuzzi a contract so not sure your expectations are a reality here.
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