[PGT] Avs 3 Flames 2 on the brink

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by AC

Also really surprised Gio tried to just blast the rebound through 3 Avs and Grubauer. Frolik was wide open in the slot calling for it with a fairly wide open net.

IDK, not all that confident in Frolik making that shot either

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by Duffalufagus

Bananas. They looked more “comfortable” in front of Rittich?



This isn’t a comfort issue. I’d resign Smith right now to play 30

Games (and maybe the playoffs) next year.



Smith has been the best goalie in the playoffs. Absolutely outstanding. Rittich would be doing worse. As would any other goalie in the league.

Ok, don't start Rittich then. He probably won't anyway. But please for the love of God do not re-sign Smith. It's great that he's playing well now, but hell to the effing no on another contract.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Nights like this remind me how lucky we were to have Iginla.
I long for a top forward who could will a bunch of Pluggers to the cup final vs these highly skilled guys with no heart.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Didn’t think this team was going to be so deflated after the GWG by MacKinnon in game 2. They haven’t been the same ever since.

[dino7c]

I'd offer Smith 1x1

take it or leave it

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

The guy who leads the playoffs in goals and points and is a finalist for the selke was available at the deadline.

I don't even think the right Stone in the Flames lineup will be a saviour for this team. Vegas can win without having Stone in the lineup.

Think about it, Bennett has been playing great in this series. It takes more than two or three players who are giving it all every night, let alone one high priced player who may or may not work out. The price for Stone was and is obviously too high if you don't want to trade away the future and present players just to go into the playoffs with the only hope. It would have made more sense to pick up few guys with size to provide more grit. When 3/4 of your forward lines are either soft and/or small, that's not a Stanley Cup contender team!

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Nights like this remind me how lucky we were to have Iginla.
I long for a top forward who could will a bunch of Pluggers to the cup final vs these highly skilled guys with no heart.

Iggy got the Flames past the first round one time in his career and it was largely due to a goalie standing on his head

[Since1984]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I'd offer Smith 1x1

take it or leave it

He'd walk

[3rd liner]

While Mackinnon is a beast he doesn’t seem to get too involved in contact. Let hath or Bennett ######g level him and make his life HARD. When the going gets tough Nate has a temper tantrum like a teenager. Remember the freak-out on his coach?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Since1984

He'd walk

that's fine...

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by AC

Also really surprised Gio tried to just blast the rebound through 3 Avs and Grubauer. Frolik was wide open in the slot calling for it with a fairly wide open net.

Yup, the boys aren’t making the smart plays that made this team a good team. We can bitch and moan about Jankowski and Neal, but there’s been no finish or poise from our top guys when they’ve been in the position to score. Just a ton of low IQ poor awareness playing. A lot of passes going through the crease with no one crashing the net. Turnover galore when they cross the opposing blue-line. It’s been terrible to watch, no idea what happened to this team.


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[genetic_phreek]

I'd like to bench Neal and Janko for some speed. Put in Lazar and Dube. We need forecheck and puck retrieval.

Gaudreau - Bennett - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Lazar
Dube - Monahan - Frolik
Mangiapane - Ryan - Hathaway

[Joborule]

In the "what if" territory,

What if GG didn't ruin Sam Bennett, and he panned out as we hoped he would've? The Flames then would have great centre depth in Bennett being that player that could take pressure off Gaudreau, and Monahan would be a #2C which I think would compliment him better playing with Tkachuk.

I know that it's not a guarantee that GG ruined Bennett, but consider how well he did under Hartley in his first season, it's not out of the realm he had a negative influence since lots of players diminished with Gulutzan.

[AC]

Originally Posted by dino7c

IDK, not all that confident in Frolik making that shot either

March 31st in SJ. Almost the same situation and Gio fed Frolik for the goal...

Feels bad man.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Joborule

In the "what if" territory,

What if GG didn't ruin Sam Bennett, and he panned out as we hoped he would've? The Flames then would have great centre depth in Bennett being that player that could take pressure off Gaudreau, and Monahan would be a #2C which I think would compliment him better playing with Tkachuk.

I know that it's not a guarantee that GG ruined Bennett, but consider how well he did under Hartley in his first season, it's not out of the realm he had a negative influence since lots of players diminished with Gulutzan.

Something else just would have gone to ####. "What if we weren't the Flames?" should be the real question.

[Since1984]

Originally Posted by Joborule

In the "what if" territory,

What if GG didn't ruin Sam Bennett, and he panned out as we hoped he would've? The Flames then would have great centre depth in Bennett being that player that could take pressure off Gaudreau, and Monahan would be a #2C which I think would compliment him better playing with Tkachuk.

I know that it's not a guarantee that GG ruined Bennett, but consider how well he did under Hartley in his first season, it's not out of the realm he had a negative influence since lots of players diminished with Gulutzan.

Stopped reading at "what if"

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

Then you play Johnny with Bennett and maybe someone like Lindholm. Remove Monahan from the situation entirely, let him try to find his way on another line. He just seems to be floating aimlessly out there waiting for a feed from Johnny that will never come. So give him others with a good motor who like to shoot that may face easier minutes, like with Mangiapane and Czarnik.



It's time to split the big two up. Each are deferring to each other and hoping the other gets something done. Hell, it was long overdue after game 3. I'm not sure why it hasn't been tried now. We are against the ####ing ropes, time to try some experimentation.

The passes are coming but, for a 3rd time in this series, Monahan whiffed on another one timer. This series is moving so much faster than what Monahan’s hockey iq seems to be able to process. He’s constantly behind the play and is just plodding out there.

I’m also where you are. This team can’t lose another game, so Peter might as well change it all up. Neal needs to sit for me, he’s done. Put Ryan with Gaudreau. The 2 had some chemistry to end the season. Play Bennett more, move Andersson up and etc etc.



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[Beninho]

Originally Posted by AC

March 31st in SJ. Almost the same situation and Gio fed Frolik for the goal...



Feels bad man.

That game had me so stoked for the playoffs, man does this team find new ways to let us down. Here’s hoping to a miracle


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[CGY12]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

What’s lame is constantly being negative then patting yourself on the back for your amazing analysis. Easy to be right when you are always predicting a loss, because inevitably all but one team loses in the end and you can just move the goal posts.

At the start of the year you can be we are going to miss the playoffs guy, which can morph into we are going to blow the division guy, which can morph into first round fodder guy, which could then morph into can’t beat a true cup contender guy. Always being down on the team comes with the convenient outcome of always getting to be right (for any sports fan) which is something you and many others on here clearly value more than anything else.

Please share where I'm predicting loses? I actually had the Flames in 5 in this series but losing to Vegas. I figured an 8th seed was exactly what they needed to get their feet wet in the playoffs. I guess I gave them too much credit.

Also its not about always being down on the team, its about seeing warning signs and calling the team out for their deficiencies, being a realist. I wish I was wrong and the stars of this team figured it out, but the play down the stretch clearly showed they haven't and its bled into the playoffs.

If people want to be rosy on the team all the time regardless of their play, ok. Lets not attack others and question their intentions when they have a negative spin (which happened quite often down the stretch).

Anyway, enough about this beef between me and dino. People can continue with their PG comments.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by AC

March 31st in SJ. Almost the same situation and Gio fed Frolik for the goal...

Feels bad man.

I just mean because of the situation...Flames seem to be the biggest stick squeezers. Backlund just missed a half open net

actually it looks like Gio should have shot this one lol